Drums in T?

[C00kie]

any tips would be great - or maybe i just need to get some proper schooling in mic techniques and such. unless someone has a great resource for this kind of training online???

Hey, finally not a sampler but a real drummer at KVR!
There's loads of tips on miking drums at the Project Studio Handbook:
http://www.theprojectstudiohandbook.com/articles11.htm

[chardin]

A good trick for adding interest to a drum part: insert a Tracktion delay on the kick or snare (or a sub-group of both.. I LOVE Tracktion's sub-grouping!!) and choose an interesting beat division for the delay time.

I want to thank platinumears for amazing and helpful tips like this. I know this isn't a Tracktion trick per se, but I would have never thought of this on my own. Once again, many thanks.

[IIRs]

Anytime!

[dealwithit]

A good trick for adding interest to a drum part: insert a Tracktion delay on the kick or snare (or a sub-group of both.. I LOVE Tracktion's sub-grouping!!) and choose an interesting beat division for the delay time.

I want to thank platinumears for amazing and helpful tips like this. I know this isn't a Tracktion trick per se, but I would have never thought of this on my own. Once again, many thanks.

Agreed, but I have no idea how to do what he's talking about (I didn't even think T had "sub-grouping"). Anyone care to explain this one? I'm curious to try it.

[IIRs]

Sub-grouping is really easy in Tracktion, but manages at the same time to be more flexible and powerful than any other host I've used.

Basically you create a subgroup by routing a selection of tracks to another track rather than an audio out. Audio (and MIDI) from all these tracks will now be mixed together and pass through any filters on the destination (group) track.

As far as I am aware there is no limit to the number of levels of sub-group you can set up: I will often have 8 or more tracks of drums grouped into a "Drums" track, 2 or 3 tracks of bass feeding a "Bass" group, with both these groups feeding a further "Drum-n-Bass" group on which I sometimes like to insert a compressor.. sometimes I will group an entire mix down to 3 or 4 "stems" which I may freeze alternately while I work on different elements of the mix.

Any clearer now?

[braj]

sometimes I will group an entire mix down to 3 or 4 "stems" which I may freeze alternately while I work on different elements of the mix.

Any clearer now?

Do you freeze the source tracks of the stems as well, or just the stems? If not, what do you do with the source tracks? Do they 'mind' not having a live output?

interesting, platinumears, you're one of the most inventive T users I've ran across, always ready with the cool tricks.

[djsubject]

AFAIK, when you freeze a Sub-group all tracks leading to that Sub-group are disabled, this makes it verry easy to get back to 0% CPU

[IIRs]

Yeah, if you try to freeze a track that routes to another one you get a ticking off.. it still freezes any other tracks that were selected though, which is very thoughtful IMO! It means btw, that you can select all tracks and hit freeze, and let Tracktion work out which ones actually should be frozen or not.. and when its finished your edit will use NO cpu with bugger-all disk activity. This is a good way to devote all your resources to something like tracking vocals, even if you already have a large complex arrangement going.

You just need to remember not to try to edit the actual tracks while their group is frozen, as you won't hear any changes until you unfreeze..

[MT]

Any chance there's an extended manual somewhere to make these not-so-obvious elements obvious?

Cool tip.

MT

[chardin]

I don't know about anyone else but I would pay money if platinumears wrote a book about his Tracktion tricks. Seriously.

[Lunch Money]

Heheheh, he certainly has some valuable ones.

Greg

[SaviorNeeded]

@platinumears:

I was thinking the same thing about a paid-for manual from you and possibly a couple other Tracktion "mavens". The T2 manual is supposed to be a large improvement, but I'm sure there'll always be room for a long list of practical tips. I'd pay ten bux for a pdf file with some screen shots and a well organized set of say 50-100 tips.

You should cull your ideas from your previous posts and add some others--after we see the T2 manual.

And thanks for the contributions you've already made!

Tom

[braj]

The demo of Jamstix is out in case anyone is interested:

http://www.rayzoon.com/