Kontakt 2 shipping...anyone have it?

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SJ_Digriz wrote:
Hellbilly wrote:To me, the userinterface is the biggest improvement of them all, at least it looks like it so far. Kontakt 1.x userinterface has always put me off Kontakt, with v2 it might change, who knows.
??? Every screen shot I see looks exactly like 1.x->Guitar Rig-> etc.. How is the 2 interface different?
Take it easy there fella :?

What i mean is the drag&drop of things (modules) which seems far more intuitive instead of the drop down stuff of the old.

And i also said, by the looks of it so far, which means i haven't tried it and i am judging by screenshots and what i have read. So i am excited to know how much better this layout is from previous version and i do hope it's much better.
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The bank feature also looks interesting.

K1's browser sucks. If I want 'quick' access to my 20 favourite patches in K1, I have to copy those patches on disk to their own directory.

Then to switch to one of these patches I have to drag it from the file browser to the "rack workspace". Then I have to make the instrument respond to the proper MIDI channel and solo it.

K2 introduces the revolutionary new concept of actually responding to Program Change messages.


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magog wrote:K2 introduces the revolutionary new concept of actually responding to Program Change messages.
:hihi: I hope they don't try to copywrite it.
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And I just ordered Komplete Care 2005 on the last day of Feb, so I haven't seen any notifications or anything . . .

I'm Kompletely (sorry) new to software sampling, only got my DAW in November last year. Kontakt was an obvious choice for me since Komplete 2 comes with 11 programs, at least 5 of them being kick ass . . . so the price point per software made it too good to pass up. And thanks to www.hollowsun.com I've got a large number of interesting, good quality, instruments to tinker with if I can ever spend enough time to really dig into this program. (Check out hollwsun's collection of string synths especially, their Eminent is freaking awesome!)

Anyway, I've only touched the surface of K1 but have been impressed by the results, if not the UI. I'm most curious about the Impulse Response FX built into K2. Like are they going to develope IRs for it or are we going to have to rely on purchasing/downloading/making our own?

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Yeah , the IR built in is a great feature they put in .
Also its great that they made Kontakt 2 , Dual Processor compatible.
BTW , I`m a G4 Dual user.

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My copy is in the mail supposely from a email sent from NI. Hopefully, this all true since I waited well over a month due to the backlog problem with Komplete Care. My confidence is pretty low with NI lately.
Please dont bite me.

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da adidas 12 wrote:My copy is in the mail supposely from a email sent from NI. Hopefully, this all true since I waited well over a month due to the backlog problem with Komplete Care. My confidence is pretty low with NI lately.
With Battery 2, they sent me an e-mail saying I'd get it in 10 days... I got it 2 months later!

With Absynth 3, I did get it within 10 days...

So while I'd like to think I'll get it soon, I wouldn't be completely shocked if I don't.

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I am not holding my breath for K2. Emulator X and Sampletank are far superior to Kontakt 1, especially when it comes to pitch-bending. Plus, you can't beat the filters from Emu anyway.

I love NI, but I think that Kontakt is too overrated and overpriced.

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I didnt mention my five trips to the vendor which they told me they didnt know when NI Komplete Care was going to arrive. Remembering this experience has been nothing but a bad experience i would like to forget about.
Please dont bite me.

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aerdt wrote:I am not holding my breath for K2. Emulator X and Sampletank are far superior to Kontakt 1, especially when it comes to pitch-bending. Plus, you can't beat the filters from Emu anyway.

I love NI, but I think that Kontakt is too overrated and overpriced.
Emulator X and Sampletank aren't even comparable to Kontakt. In ANY way. Kontakt is an actual sampler - it's for serious programming. You can set up extremely deep layers of programming, and that depth will only increase with K2. Emulator X and Sampletank, to my knowledge, are 'sample players', not 'samplers'. A more appropriate comparison might be Sampletank to Kompakt.

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aerdt wrote:I am not holding my breath for K2. Emulator X and Sampletank are far superior to Kontakt 1, especially when it comes to pitch-bending. Plus, you can't beat the filters from Emu anyway.

I love NI, but I think that Kontakt is too overrated and overpriced.
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zircon wrote: Emulator X and Sampletank aren't even comparable to Kontakt. In ANY way. Kontakt is an actual sampler - it's for serious programming. You can set up extremely deep layers of programming, and that depth will only increase with K2. Emulator X and Sampletank, to my knowledge, are 'sample players', not 'samplers'. A more appropriate comparison might be Sampletank to Kompakt.
Both Emulator X and Sampletank L/XL are full sized samplers with editors and features that would even put hardware Emax and Akai samplers to shame. Emu has incorporated their award-winning pitch-bending engine and Sampletank features their STRETCH engine. Play a sampled cymbal on Kontakt and pitch it down an octave and it sounds just plain horrible.

Emulator X features the Emulator X synthesis engine, with 36 patchcords per voice that you can individually connect a la Reaktor, over 50 patented Z-Plane morphing filters, multi- wave LFO's, conditional voice modulation, clock modulation and a host of other synthesis features and parameters. You can import virtually every format and edit them with the included Wave Editor (gain control, time/pitch stretching, sample calculation etc.), plus 32 hardware DSP processor. Not a sampler, huh?

Kontakt doesn't even come close to those features. I can't speak for K2, since it's not out yet.
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zircon wrote:
aerdt wrote:I am not holding my breath for K2. Emulator X and Sampletank are far superior to Kontakt 1, especially when it comes to pitch-bending. Plus, you can't beat the filters from Emu anyway.

I love NI, but I think that Kontakt is too overrated and overpriced.
Emulator X and Sampletank aren't even comparable to Kontakt. In ANY way. Kontakt is an actual sampler - it's for serious programming. You can set up extremely deep layers of programming, and that depth will only increase with K2. Emulator X and Sampletank, to my knowledge, are 'sample players', not 'samplers'. A more appropriate comparison might be Sampletank to Kompakt.
This is at least partially incorrect. Emulator X does itself sample. You can record audio from within the application itself via the Emu soundcard it is integrated with. I am unaware of Kontakt 2's feature set, so it may be able to record as well. It is the ability to record and not how deeply you can program that defines a sampler vs a sample player, and the E X is one of the very few soft samplers which has this capability. It also has a sample editor and extensive modulation routings, and so is in its own way as deep of a synth as Kontakt.

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emdot_ambient wrote:I'm most curious about the Impulse Response FX built into K2.
Yeah, me too. The most exciting thing is that they seem to be offered as inserts, so you can use them polyphonically - i.e. each voice will be articulated through its own impulse fx. Since convolution is just a form of filtering, you will be able to get some really interesting effects going on here.
emdot_ambient wrote:Like are they going to develope IRs for it or are we going to have to rely on purchasing/downloading/making our own?
Ni's website says that "extensive selection of impulse responses is also included" with k2. You can get more free ones from the noisevault. Personally, I can't wait to use the impulses I bought from Spirit Canyon Audio as the type of sounds these are capable of creating are crying out to be inserted somewhere other than the very end of the signal path :)

Finally, while making impulse responses from the physical world is quite a fiddly business, Voxengo offer some interesting tools for creating them in software.

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OMU wrote:
aerdt wrote:I am not holding my breath for K2. Emulator X and Sampletank are far superior to Kontakt 1, especially when it comes to pitch-bending. Plus, you can't beat the filters from Emu anyway.

I love NI, but I think that Kontakt is too overrated and overpriced.
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Emulator x a sample player what a joke.It has over 50 filters, 17 lfo waveforms and offers much more modulation options compared to Kontakt.How can you comment on something you obviously know nothing about.
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