Tracktion Software

jens · Post by **jens** » Fri Mar 18, 2005 1:10 pm

Sleepwalker wrote:
Jens wrote:while we're at shrugging shoulders:

Jorgen implemented his absolute/relative snap toggle in one day...
It doesnt hurt to send jules a short note. He might like it, and consider it for a future adding to the never ending "to do list!" If you keep the note simple, cleare, and dont ask questins!

when I asked for it about one and a half years ago he wrote something like 'it surely is no big deal to move two clips instead of one'

jens · Post by **jens** » Fri Mar 18, 2005 1:15 pm

platinumears wrote:
Jens wrote:while we're at shrugging shoulders:

Jorgen implemented his absolute/relative snap toggle in one day...
Remind me: why is it you hang out on this forum again?

I'll remind you:

because I have ~130 projects in various states of evolution in my Tracktion folder

IIRs · Post by **IIRs** » Fri Mar 18, 2005 1:19 pm

Jens wrote:
platinumears wrote:
Jens wrote:while we're at shrugging shoulders:

Jorgen implemented his absolute/relative snap toggle in one day...
Remind me: why is it you hang out on this forum again?

I'll remind you:

because I have ~130 projects in various states of evolution in my Tracktion folder

Well, if you stopped wasting so much time complaining that Tracktion isn't as good as EXT, you might get round to finishing them..

jens · Post by **jens** » Fri Mar 18, 2005 1:29 pm

cheeky!

some things about Tracktion are outstanding, unique and wonderful - I'd never deny that!

Lunch Money · Post by **Lunch Money** » Fri Mar 18, 2005 4:51 pm

Jorgen is only half-human. Since we continue to shrug shoulders, I guess it doesn't hurt to point out that although he's half-human, there are a million other mission-critical feature requests that were NOT implemented in one day and still aren't implemented.

You can't just pick the evidence that suits your argument, Jens.

Or you can, but we're not all stupid enough to go for it.

Greg

djsubject · Post by **djsubject** » Fri Mar 18, 2005 6:58 pm

I would love this to be added to T2! in logic i had it on all the time, i miss it so much

but not as much as the things i dont miss

ModuLR · Post by **ModuLR** » Fri Mar 18, 2005 7:17 pm

for a while I thought I missed that rapid fire development... like eXT has.. but now I realize that I really don't. eXT is becoming exceedingly cluttered with ideas that could be a bit more thought out IMHO. I still love jorgon's work tho, so don't take this as a dis... but I think it's becoming an example of things moving too fast.

jens · Post by **jens** » Fri Mar 18, 2005 8:58 pm

ModuLR wrote:for a while I thought I missed that rapid fire development... like eXT has.. but now I realize that I really don't. eXT is becoming exceedingly cluttered with ideas that could be a bit more thought out IMHO. I still love jorgon's work tho, so don't take this as a dis... but I think it's becoming an example of things moving too fast.

really?

- I think it's exactly the opposite currently - Jorgen has stopped adding new features and only improves what's there - and boy, how I love these improvements...

Todd24 · Post by **Todd24** » Fri Mar 18, 2005 9:45 pm

what ? miniaml extra steps ? think of it on 8 drumtracks cutet to lets say 2 parts for srophe, 1-3 for refrain, some bridges and solos, some breaks and fills... but yes it's the methode i'm working with right now and believe me it's also horrible.

Ok ....you create an "outline" track with blank midi clips that you name "chorus" , "Verse", "Bridge" etc. You color code them so it easy to see where you are. You put # markers at each point.

Now lets say you want to move the bridge. You put the in marker at the start and the out marker at the end of the bridge. Then chose "select clips between markers". Ctrl-deselect the clips you dont want to move, like the ones that are after the bridge, but overlap. Then drag the whole mess where you want it. The blank midi clip named "bridge" snaps to the new location, but all the clips are still relative to it, and have not been snapped to the beat.

Piece of cake really. I do it all the time. If you need to do "parts" of a bridge or whatever, then slice the midi clip acordingly.

aldi · Post by **aldi** » Fri Mar 18, 2005 11:40 pm

what about just a snar that's not in time... but ok, i'll stop argu now. i work with tracktion and made many drumrecordings, i know the workarounds and i know that they sucks.

IIRs · Post by **IIRs** » Sat Mar 19, 2005 12:01 am

aldi wrote:what about just a snar that's not in time...

Get a drummer who can play..?

Lunch Money · Post by **Lunch Money** » Sat Mar 19, 2005 12:28 am

aldi wrote:what about just a snar that's not in time... but ok, i'll stop argu now. i work with tracktion and made many drumrecordings, i know the workarounds and i know that they sucks.

Don't be too quick to dismiss. Somebody just MAY have a 'workaround' that you hadn't though of, or a new way of doing it that hadn't occurred to you. That selecting multiple clips thing sounded pretty reasonable, and to be honest I'm so visual that I hadn't even THOUGHT of just changing the number value. I suspect that even if you don't admit it publicly, a few of the suggestions have made you think at least, "OK, well that will make it a BIT easier."

Greg

Todd24 · Post by **Todd24** » Sat Mar 19, 2005 4:37 am

aldi wrote:what about just a snar that's not in time... but ok, i'll stop argu now. i work with tracktion and made many drumrecordings, i know the workarounds and i know that they sucks.

I didnt know we were arguing, I was trying to help you.

If its just a snare..... then just move that...

djsubject · Post by **djsubject** » Sat Mar 19, 2005 8:40 am

yes work around's are plentifull! but it would still be a lovely add-on to have in T2 no?

Lunch Money · Post by **Lunch Money** » Sat Mar 19, 2005 9:04 am

Tracktion Software

KVR Audio

will it be possible to move clips without losing it's offset