VST host without ASIO or WDM for $129, any use ?
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Jaeson Merrill Jaeson Merrill https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=29081
- KVRian
- 1185 posts since 10 Jun, 2004 from nowhere you believe in
that is simply the most ridiculous thing i have ever heard. You can buy FLstudio producer for 149 dollars and it does much more than this can.
16 bit audio maybe acceptable to some.. however, that latency, and really the overall lack of realizing new technology makes this a useless product.
what else does it do?
link?
16 bit audio maybe acceptable to some.. however, that latency, and really the overall lack of realizing new technology makes this a useless product.
what else does it do?
link?
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- KVRAF
- 1884 posts since 9 Feb, 2004 from Rochester, MN
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Jaeson Merrill Jaeson Merrill https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=29081
- KVRian
- 1185 posts since 10 Jun, 2004 from nowhere you believe in
"I've been into this software for many years .."
hehe.. famous last words.
hehe.. famous last words.
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- KVRian
- 690 posts since 31 May, 2002 from chez moi
sure I'd buy it if it had other things that I really liked. All I know about it at this point is two cons: no asio/wdm, and no low latency. These aren't necessarily show-stoppers though. What are the pros?
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- jaaathmaster
- 2690 posts since 1 Jun, 2001 from Marlow, S. Bucks, UK
Ummmm...The Unnamed Developer wrote:A lot of people blame their tools but the output is like the least important thing.
Sorry, 24ms is totally unworkable for me, 10ms or less please (in fact I can 'feel' a difference right down to 3ms).
Music with dinner is an insult both to the cook and the violinist.
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- KVRist
- 410 posts since 8 Jan, 2004 from Switzerland
yes...AD80 wrote:For the love of God get EnergyXT, or Tracktion, or FL, or something else, anything else. Theres any number of good, low priced hosts that offer more.
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- KVRist
- 240 posts since 14 Apr, 2003 from Oslo, Norway
My feeling exactly. This does not look like a project with an immense success potential -- sorry.Jaeson Merrill wrote:that is simply the most ridiculous thing i have ever heard. You can buy FLstudio producer for 149 dollars and it does much more than this can.
When I was younger I used to be in doubt. These days I'm not so sure.
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 2054 posts since 3 Jun, 2001 from Not far from Australia
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Jaeson Merrill Jaeson Merrill https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=29081
- KVRian
- 1185 posts since 10 Jun, 2004 from nowhere you believe in
wait, i had an idea.. if i ever saw someone who had absolutely no talent, and 150 bucks to blow, i would tell him that this software would do everything he needed; to prevent his bad music from ever surfacing.
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- KVRAF
- 3476 posts since 9 Apr, 2003 from NE Ohio, USA
Jaeson Merrill wrote:wait, i had an idea.. if i ever saw someone who had absolutely no talent, and 150 bucks to blow, i would tell him that this software would do everything he needed; to prevent his bad music from ever surfacing.
But another thought - if a developer put the time and money into doing a high-quality render and an extremely friendly UI, and did not market themselves as a "live playing" environment - ie they focused on using the piano roll/score/drum grid rather than keyboard MIDI input - they might find a buyer.
But still, that's a stretch at $129 or so, and they're knocking out a good chunk of the more-knowledgable users - people that MIGHT consider a new host when they get tired of dongle-hell, expensive upgrades, discontinued products, or whatever would cause someone to look for a new host.
Doug
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- KVRian
- 1171 posts since 19 Apr, 2004
>sure I'd buy it if it had other things that I really liked. All I know about it at this point is two cons: no asio/wdm, and no low latency. These aren't necessarily show-stoppers though. What are the pros?
Build complex structures with low level modules like in sync modular IE: new filters, osc's and much more. then export to a VST or VSTi.
Still sounds like a rotten deal huh? Nope
I'm sure he will repair the audio drivers soon, ASIO or not.
Joe
Build complex structures with low level modules like in sync modular IE: new filters, osc's and much more. then export to a VST or VSTi.
Still sounds like a rotten deal huh? Nope
I'm sure he will repair the audio drivers soon, ASIO or not.
Joe
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- KVRist
- 263 posts since 24 Oct, 2004 from Delhi, India
I may try this host only as beta-trial-free-demo version, if that suites the developer. I will never pay a single penny for this
, My precious time is costlier.. 
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- KVRian
- 1024 posts since 25 Apr, 2002
damn, i need to know what host is this...curiousity is killing me...
people always say "it's not the software, it's what you do with it", which is 100% percent true statement. but another true statement is 'not to conform with mediocracy' and 'always shoot for the best'. not to mean that one needs to get the latest, most advanced, 1024bit version of Samplitude XXX to make the lushest composition. it's more like getting an average grade in school and saying, 'ah f**k, that's good enough' when you know you could do better. maybe you could've studied an extra hour to get a slightly higher grade...am i making sense?
So why would i spend $129/$149 for a 'mediocre' host to today's standards, when there's like 10 others for the same price and even cheaper that can perform more acceptably? even Buzz accepts ASIO! so there's has to be a really good explanation as to why the developer of this software neglects adding something that's not a luxury but a standard. and you can't have virtual plugins, VST DXi or whatever, without low latency. it's like having a sunroof without being able to open it...that's a used, f**ked up car from the 50's, not a brand new car!!!!
people always say "it's not the software, it's what you do with it", which is 100% percent true statement. but another true statement is 'not to conform with mediocracy' and 'always shoot for the best'. not to mean that one needs to get the latest, most advanced, 1024bit version of Samplitude XXX to make the lushest composition. it's more like getting an average grade in school and saying, 'ah f**k, that's good enough' when you know you could do better. maybe you could've studied an extra hour to get a slightly higher grade...am i making sense?
So why would i spend $129/$149 for a 'mediocre' host to today's standards, when there's like 10 others for the same price and even cheaper that can perform more acceptably? even Buzz accepts ASIO! so there's has to be a really good explanation as to why the developer of this software neglects adding something that's not a luxury but a standard. and you can't have virtual plugins, VST DXi or whatever, without low latency. it's like having a sunroof without being able to open it...that's a used, f**ked up car from the 50's, not a brand new car!!!!
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 2054 posts since 3 Jun, 2001 from Not far from Australia
He he ! 
Synthedit is far more advanced, has hundreds of modules and ASIO.
$25
Syntmaker not yet there but very promissing !
$48 early adopters
$99 later
Both can save as VST/VSTi,
and both have ASIO.
But still that part of the host has a great potential,
only the developer needs to get his ideas straight and get to know his market place and customers.
Synthedit is far more advanced, has hundreds of modules and ASIO.
$25
Syntmaker not yet there but very promissing !
$48 early adopters
$99 later
Both can save as VST/VSTi,
and both have ASIO.
But still that part of the host has a great potential,
only the developer needs to get his ideas straight and get to know his market place and customers.



