KVR Audio

wrench45us · Post by **wrench45us** » Fri May 20, 2005 1:21 pm

the way I use P5 is set up a couple of useful patterns and then begin the proicess of dupe,modify and reassign

if i dupe a pattern and change inversions and raise all notes an octave or a fifth i get a related high string part

if I dupe a pattern move it down an octave and snip off the upper notes I have the start of a bass pattern

and so it goes
with P5 v2 this is considerably slicker because of track layers that can hold individual patterns that get played by the same synth/device chain (or separate channels of multi-out instruments) -- so if you want to add a hi-hat pattern at various places to an ongoing drum pattern, you just add a layer and position the hihat pattern
the track layers also encourages playing in midi or audio -- with audio if you set up a loop it automatically creates a new layer on repeated playback -- with midi you have to do it manually, but it's still very slick way to layer and build parts as patterns get created an dcan be worked in the editor but recorded in the track with all the other tracks playing

I've always been a fan of the midi editing, but with this version Cakewalk has made big strides with being able to record midi (and audio) as a performance/composition host. And that doesn't even begin to touch what a skilled and prepared player can do with the Groove Matrix.

flex42 · Post by **flex42** » Tue May 24, 2005 2:34 pm

does P5 have full pdc?
it sure looks tempting but full pdc is a must imho...

edit: does it have native vst support or via an adapter?

wrench45us · Post by **wrench45us** » Tue May 24, 2005 2:36 pm

i suppose we all hav eto draw our own particular lines in the sand

but yes, it does have PDC
i'm not sure what the difference between PDC and full PDC, but let's say it has PDC

flex42 · Post by **flex42** » Tue May 24, 2005 2:39 pm

nice! full pdc=pdc on all tracks, busses, sends...

Stupid American Pig · Post by **Stupid American Pig** » Tue May 24, 2005 2:44 pm

I believe it does have full pdc

billybk1 · Post by **billybk1** » Tue May 24, 2005 3:13 pm

flex42 wrote:nice! full pdc=pdc on all tracks, busses, sends...

Yes, it definately has full auto PDC through the entire signal path. That is one of the first things I checked with the P5 2.0 demo. I have a couple of UAD-1 DSP cards, that require full auto PDC, for them to work without delays. They do work great, in Project 5 2.0, BTW.

Best Regards,

Billy Buck

Igor 4000 · Post by **Igor 4000** » Tue May 24, 2005 3:34 pm

I still don't fully understand PDC

Does this mean that plugins like SIR and Spectron will not have a delay when used in Project5?

flex42 · Post by **flex42** » Tue May 24, 2005 3:42 pm

he he, that would be nice...

it means everything else also gets delayed (which in turn means everything is "in sync" again).

One · Post by **One** » Tue May 24, 2005 3:51 pm

Hi

Recent convert here, The work flow is AWESOME!! I wish it had Fruitys Piano roll and mixer though but it is REALLY QUICK to put a tune together in this program!

Igor 4000 · Post by **Igor 4000** » Tue May 24, 2005 4:07 pm

flex42 wrote:he he, that would be nice...
it means everything else also gets delayed (which in turn means everything is "in sync" again).

So then, due to this, there should be no audible delay in any plugin?

Rabid · Post by **Rabid** » Tue May 24, 2005 4:18 pm

In the short time I have used vs 2 I have to say the layout is a big improvement over P5-1. I used to get very frustrated with vs 1.

Robert

flex42 · Post by **flex42** » Tue May 24, 2005 4:40 pm

Igor 4000 wrote:So then, due to this, there should be no audible delay in any plugin?

none if a synth gets played via midi data from your host.
of course there is still a delay when you play on your keyboard (soundcard latency + the delays introduced by eg SIR, Spectron, etc.)

original flipper · Post by **original flipper** » Tue May 24, 2005 4:43 pm

HI

Just goes to show you REALLY CAN'T please people on every front - why would you want the 'Fruity' piano-roll?

P5 has a piano roll that is certainly no less able or usable than the fruity one - on my twin monitors it is great being able to detach it and plonk it on the second screen.

For my part I can't get my head around the fx implementation - where are the per track fx sends?

Flipper.

Igor 4000 · Post by **Igor 4000** » Tue May 24, 2005 5:27 pm

flex42 wrote:
Igor 4000 wrote:So then, due to this, there should be no audible delay in any plugin?
none if a synth gets played via midi data from your host.
of course there is still a delay when you play on your keyboard (soundcard latency + the delays introduced by eg SIR, Spectron, etc.)

So PDC effects synths and not fx? In other words, if I have a synth with Spectron as an insert, PDC will not get rid of the delay caused by Spectron? Sorry for being obtuse...I'm just trying to understand the process.

flex42 · Post by **flex42** » Tue May 24, 2005 5:30 pm

synths and fx! full pdc means no audible delay anywhere in the signal path.

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