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medienhexer · Post by **medienhexer** » Fri Nov 15, 2013 10:44 am

Hey Urs

With all the development going towards the Zebra update (thanks!), the Satin update (thanks again) and the Diva update (very tempting).. My guess is, Presswerk release and UHBIK additions are now firmly delayed into 2014, aren't they?

Or is the Zebra distortion research going to end up in an UHBIK distortion module (hint hint, nudge nudge, wink wink, if you know what I mean)?

Urs · Post by **Urs** » Fri Nov 15, 2013 11:37 am

medienhexer wrote:Hey Urs

With all the development going towards the Zebra update (thanks!), the Satin update (thanks again) and the Diva update (very tempting).. My guess is, Presswerk release and UHBIK additions are now firmly delayed into 2014, aren't they?

No work has been put into the Zebra update yet, apart from conceptual stuff that happened between beers in pubs

We've had another weird year. I hope the variety of plug-in formats comes to a rest now. After VST3, RE and AAX we need a couple of years of stability to move forward with things.

Or is the Zebra distortion research going to end up in an UHBIK distortion module (hint hint, nudge nudge, wink wink, if you know what I mean)?

Sascha is creating a very cool toolbox for nonlinear and dynamics-oriented DSP algorithms. I'm sure we can come up with some cool concpets in future, some of which I hope to apply to Uhbik.

Speaking of which, we will have a full time graphics wizzards who's sole purpose is to "re-imagine" our existing product line. As the last remaining hurdle to the-uhbik-we-don't-speak-of is the effort that goes into the UI, this may bring us a big step forward. (Note to our freelance graphics artists who haven't been informed yet: You won't get less work

)

- Urs

medienhexer · Post by **medienhexer** » Fri Nov 15, 2013 1:05 pm

Urs wrote:
medienhexer wrote:Hey Urs

With all the development going towards the Zebra update (thanks!), the Satin update (thanks again) and the Diva update (very tempting).. My guess is, Presswerk release and UHBIK additions are now firmly delayed into 2014, aren't they?
No work has been put into the Zebra update yet, apart from conceptual stuff that happened between beers in pubs

Oh, I was referring to the distortion module addition to Z2..

But from what you're saying, I'm sure Presswerk will not happen in 2013. which is fine, it's not like i need any more plug-ins. I can stop whenever I want.

firepile · Post by **firepile** » Fri Nov 15, 2013 1:16 pm

Urs wrote:
medienhexer wrote:Hey Urs

With all the development going towards the Zebra update (thanks!), the Satin update (thanks again) and the Diva update (very tempting).. My guess is, Presswerk release and UHBIK additions are now firmly delayed into 2014, aren't they?
No work has been put into the Zebra update yet, apart from conceptual stuff that happened between beers in pubs

Any news on Bazille 1.0?

Urs · Post by **Urs** » Fri Nov 15, 2013 1:24 pm

firepile wrote:Any news on Bazille 1.0?

Not yet. AAX, Diva, Satin, Zebra, that's still the major topics.

We also still have issues with VST3. It looks like this format is not supportable for us, as its strange concept completely contradicts with the architecture of our internal framework. I'm so sick of working around that stupid random initialisation sequence, I'm preparing myself for the shitstorm when we drop it. That said, I'll give it exactly 1 more try.

telogic · Post by **telogic** » Fri Nov 15, 2013 1:50 pm

Urs wrote:
firepile wrote:Any news on Bazille 1.0?
Not yet. AAX, Diva, Satin, Zebra, that's still the major topics.

We also still have issues with VST3. It looks like this format is not supportable for us, as its strange concept completely contradicts with the architecture of our internal framework. I'm so sick of working around that stupid random initialisation sequence, I'm preparing myself for the shitstorm when we drop it. That said, I'll give it exactly 1 more try.

doesn't stein berg give support for there vst3 sdk?

Urs · Post by **Urs** » Fri Nov 15, 2013 2:12 pm

telogic wrote:
Urs wrote:
firepile wrote:Any news on Bazille 1.0?
Not yet. AAX, Diva, Satin, Zebra, that's still the major topics.

We also still have issues with VST3. It looks like this format is not supportable for us, as its strange concept completely contradicts with the architecture of our internal framework. I'm so sick of working around that stupid random initialisation sequence, I'm preparing myself for the shitstorm when we drop it. That said, I'll give it exactly 1 more try.
doesn't stein berg give support for there vst3 sdk?

Yes. I have started to send a set of fundamental questions to the mailing list.

We wanted to do "true" VST3 plug-ins, but in the aftermath this is illusoric. Instead we might need to start over with a simplified version of VST3 that may work better for our needs. It's however like supporting a new plug-in architecture.

Breeze · Post by **Breeze** » Fri Nov 15, 2013 3:01 pm

Urs wrote:Yes. I have started to send a set of fundamental questions to the mailing list.

I sure hope the mailing list is more responsive than the support forums.

Steinberg is acting like a company in crisis, spending more time on new products than stabilizing the infrastructure their eco-system relies on.

dayjob · Post by **dayjob** » Fri Nov 15, 2013 8:36 pm

steinberg, Apple.. VST3, AU.. etc.. can all go jump in that pit of hell

as you were...

foreststone · Post by **foreststone** » Sat Nov 16, 2013 7:59 pm

Urs wrote:
telogic wrote:
Urs wrote:
firepile wrote:Any news on Bazille 1.0?
Not yet. AAX, Diva, Satin, Zebra, that's still the major topics.

We also still have issues with VST3. It looks like this format is not supportable for us, as its strange concept completely contradicts with the architecture of our internal framework. I'm so sick of working around that stupid random initialisation sequence, I'm preparing myself for the shitstorm when we drop it. That said, I'll give it exactly 1 more try.
doesn't stein berg give support for there vst3 sdk?
Yes. I have started to send a set of fundamental questions to the mailing list.

We wanted to do "true" VST3 plug-ins, but in the aftermath this is illusoric. Instead we might need to start over with a simplified version of VST3 that may work better for our needs. It's however like supporting a new plug-in architecture.

I hope Steinberg can help you with the VST3 format, in September they announced they will no longer be supporting the VST2 SDK…

http://www.steinberg.net/en/newsandeven ... -2504.html

Urs · Post by **Urs** » Sat Nov 16, 2013 10:04 pm

foreststone wrote: I hope Steinberg can help you with the VST3 format, in September they announced they will no longer be supporting the VST2 SDK…

Well, while they'll no longer support developers creating VST2 plug-ins, I don't think VST3 is going to take off anytime soon. Too ambitious, too restrictive. They won't drop VST2 in their hosts.

murnau · Post by **murnau** » Sat Nov 16, 2013 10:15 pm

Urs wrote:[We also still have issues with VST3. It looks like this format is not supportable for us, as its strange concept completely contradicts with the architecture of our internal framework. I'm so sick of working around that stupid random initialisation sequence, I'm preparing myself for the shitstorm when we drop it. That said, I'll give it exactly 1 more try.

there will not be a shitstorm against u-he, maybe against steinberg (nothing new in the last time)..

..this will change n o t h i n g !

zvenx · Post by **zvenx** » Sat Nov 16, 2013 10:20 pm

I am willing to bet you don't use vst3.
Am I right?
rsp

user5394 · Post by **user5394** » Sun Nov 17, 2013 12:03 am

Urs wrote: Not yet. AAX, Diva, Satin, Zebra, that's still the major topics.

Does this including the RE version, is it still in progress or are there no capacities at the moment?

Urs · Post by **Urs** » Sun Nov 17, 2013 10:25 am

spktkpkt wrote:
Urs wrote: Not yet. AAX, Diva, Satin, Zebra, that's still the major topics.
Does this including the RE version, is it still in progress or are there no capacities at the moment?

The RE version of Satin has to wait until the Satin "mute bug" is fixed. Before that we will not try to compile a RE.

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