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[HaganeSteel]

I think it's just you.

I just checked with the acoustic piano patch and it works as intended.

Maybe the sound you're using has resonance in the sample? Like the GM Synth Bass 1 has resonance recorded directly into it.

[fluffy_little_something]

Could be As I said I am not sure, maybe my ears are playing a trick on me...

[HaganeSteel]

Could be As I said I am not sure, maybe my ears are playing a trick on me...

Hey, I was the one who couldn't tell C2 from C3.

[fluffy_little_something]

They do sound very similar Sometimes an open filter alone can make you think the note is an octave higher than the same sound with a closed filter. An acoustical illusion so to speak.

[HaganeSteel]

They do sound very similar Sometimes an open filter alone can make you think the note is an octave higher than the same sound with a closed filter. An acoustical illusion so to speak.

That's good to know!

Yeah, some things really threw me off.

But I am just so happy with this thing now!

The "Violins" waveform, when you turn down the velocity amount knob, add a little chorus, and maybe run it through a bit of an LP filter, sounds a lot like my Roland.

I got my Roland string pads back.

But I still need to work out how to make this sound like an SC-55, where I can just put some chorusy, pad-like violins behind an instrument in a pop song. Hmm.

[Aloysius]

I just read your short User Review of Purity, HaganeSteel. Very good.

I'm looking forward to printing out, and reading, your more detailed review (back a few pages there).

Thanks for putting it together. \m/

[musikmachine]

So would this be well suited to dance pianos and strings, organs etc? I'm on the lookout for a rompler and this could fit the bill.

[ENV1]

I sadly don't have a 64bit DAW or I would totally help you, man. But I do have a 64bit OS

Get the 64bit of VSTHost.

Problem solved, plus youll have an excellently coded host for testing purposes and all sorts of modular adventures.

My boss is Korean...he say's no all the time....especially when asking for a raise....

[HaganeSteel]

I just read your short User Review of Purity, HaganeSteel. Very good.

I'm looking forward to printing out, and reading, your more detailed review (back a few pages there).

Thanks for putting it together. \m/

No problemo! Bear in mind that when you read my longer review, you should probably ignore the parts where I mention it's lacking in bass.

There were a bunch of little things that all contributed to my having that impression at first: the Velocity Amount knob on the piano (and other sounds), and everything being an octave higher than I'm used to it being are the two main reasons I was thrown off.

I wanted to make my KVR review longer, but with only 10,000 characters, I wasn't sure how far I should go.

So would this be well suited to dance pianos and strings, organs etc? I'm on the lookout for a rompler and this could fit the bill.

I think so. I guess both it and the M1 kind of break even on that, because even though the M1 was the original, it takes a bit of work to get that production-ready sound. I feel the M1 is kind of messy when it's raw.

The upside, though, is that the M1 gives you a stereo out for each of its 8 channels, so it's not like you'll have to bounce anything to audio.

I think a lot of Purity's sounds are perfect for that, but the M1 is the real deal, and I write video game music, not dance music, so take what I say with a grain of salt.

What I do think is that Purity is probably better at making other dance sounds, and has a built-in arp and sequencer. So you could theoretically use Purity for everything.

So this is how I feel: the M1 for purists, but Purity if you're not emotionally attached to the M1.

Get the 64bit of VSTHost.

Thanks. I will look into this.

[Aloysius]

So, is everybody still in love with Purity?

I'm literally just getting to examine the Interface a little bit today. Seems very capable.

LUXONIX Support tell me that they are going to release a new product soon. I have no idea what but it's good to know that the Company are actually active in 2013.

I got 'Toys in Wonderland'. It's pretty cool. Love the battery pack on the back of the Kontakt GUI with LUXONIX batteries in it. The guaranteed 20% off for all previous Customers, coupled with the newly adjusted prices for European Customers helped me make up my mind about it a lot quicker that I would have done otherwise.

That 6 page review (printed) you made was very interesting HaganeSteel. I think you should edit it though to reflect your new appreciation of the VSTi in relation to 'lack of bass' in the presets. You review is so well put together that people might read it and not bother investigating Purity properly on the strength of your words alone. IMHO of course.

[HaganeSteel]

I used to be a preacher. Sometimes I don't realize the impact my words have on others.

After using Purity on a recent drum and bass-like track, I'm still not entirely sure how I feel about its bass and body, although it could be just a general lack of technique on my part. I'm kind of new to that genre in particular.

Certain sounds, like the GM Strings, sound like they're not multi-sampled enough, and are stretched too far up the register, and maybe the lower mids were EQed down too far. It creates somewhat of a thin sound that people should still be aware of.

So my final thoughts are: I don't know. That's why I created those two addendums, so that people realize I'm human and my ears and listening environment are not perfect.

What I can say, with 100% certainty, is that Purity is still the best synth I own, and I'm now of the opinion that it completely puts my Emu and Korg gear to shame. It has a better sound than Emu and is far easier to use than the M1.

The thing is that you can't always trust everything I say, because I go out of my way to stress test and break my equipment to make sure it's reliable and I can really brutishly slam it when I make music.

So I'm capable of finding (and fixing) small things that other people wouldn't notice, that end up feeling like big things to me because my purposes are sometimes strange, and I tend to use gear in ways it wasn't meant to be used. Most people would not hook up 4 instances of Purity and try to emulate an orchestra, but I would, for example.

I might edit it, but I can't yet in good faith, because I'm somewhere in the middle: some sounds are strong, some are weak, and I would really need more opinions on it before I decided for myself.

[Aloysius]

I had to go back and see what Addendum's you were referring to. I only read what I had printed out a few days ago (without the addendum's). Could be I neglected to copy and paste the article in its entirety. Well, it all seems fine then. Leave it be. I found the review very helpful before. It's even more helpful now. Cheers

Addendum

About 15 seconds after posting this, I got reamed for saying these sounds didn't have enough bass. HiHi

As it turns out, the Velocity Amount knob (VELO AMNT) under the Amp. Envelope section of Edit menu is turned up very high. Turning that down gives these sounds more body, the piano especially.

As a side note: To get a good piano sound out of this thing, I recommend doing the above, as well as using a 5 or 6-part Combi with the piano panned appropriately to emulate proper stereo imaging.

Addendum #2

I've taken an EQ to Purity and discovered it's a lot bassier than I initially gave it credit for. So ignore my "this lacks bass" comments. It doesn't - but Purity does have middle C pretty high (on my DAW, which uses C5 for middle C, Purity's middle C is C6 - Yeah, wow) and between that, the Amp. Velocity Amount, and a few presets strangely being tuned +/-12 semitones, I was thrown off.

[HaganeSteel]

I still want to know what your opinion of its sound is.

I made the additions to the post because I thought it'd be in bad taste to edit the whole review too. This whole thread, I feel, is a gold mine for research into this synth, and people who read pretty much from that post and down will also get a feel for the huge goof ups I sometimes make.

If I thought I was 100% wrong, I would've edited it, but I feel I was maybe 60% wrong.

Edit: There are other things people need to take into account too: My listening environment is really bad, and that's why I can't really decide for myself yet. I'm no longer using my Samson Resolvs because they're broken.

But my ears are very well adjusted, and I can hear the various frequencies just fine, for the most part, and I also use EQs and stuff to compare sounds.

My speakers are just unable to produce sound below 160hz, and maybe a bit higher.

I have an EQ setup to help alleviate some of the problem, but it's not a good setup at all.

But because my ears are so well adjusted, and because I rarely have problems mixing anything on this setup, I sometimes forget how bad my listening environment really is.

I've also been throwing a bunch of demos to Asuyuka, who has a much better speaker setup than I do, and getting her opinions on a lot of things, and they generally do match up.

I also remember very vividly how Ravity sounded on my old Samsons, and I'm still hearing those same minor, but nagging issues, like how much the viola/violin ranges in its string sounds were still not ideal - thin sounding - even though they still are currently some of the best.

But if I went and raved about it, everyone would call me a fanboy and no one would trust me, so I try to be objective.

[Aloysius]

I'm working on something else right now so I'll have to get back to you on that. Actually, I won't. In a nutshell ... I really like old stuff. I was a teenager in the 70's and a big baby in the 80's. That's me. All retro and retrogressive. Not sure what I've been doing since the 90's. I like what some call cheesy. Crappy Mellotrons. GM Sound-sets. The whole workstation thing is a bit cheesy really. A Purity Piano is never going to compete for authenticity with a 30GB Kontakt 5 Piano Library with extensive scripting and what not but for some reason these old sounds just work really well. They are inspiring. There's no load time with Purity. It's the kind of instrument you just Plug in and Play (or mouse about with in my case). Have an idea. Load a patch. Get it down. Job done.

I'm hearing what I expected to hear. Quite similar to IK Multimedia's Sample Tank imho. I like it.

[HaganeSteel]

Yes! That's what I thought too.

Similar to SampleTank, but more character and the strings are not as harsh as Omnisynth 2!

Also, I just did tests.

My speakers can't really produce sound below 80hz. From 80hz and up, they can produce the sound mostly fine, but they aren't flat.

I'm just used to my old Samsons. I went from $300 dollar audio monitors to these things and I said, "WORST. SPEAKERS. EVER." But they're really not that bad - and that's probably why I have no trouble mixing with them.

So I guess my listening environment isn't quite so terrible after all (it's still pretty bad by comparison), at least for what I do.

Edit: Wait, I'm wrong. It's about 100hz+.

Eh, still better than what I was thinking it was.