SynthMaster Song Contest with $2000 cash prize(s) + software licenses

[lolilol1975]

For those of you bitching that I posted a link on Facebook to my 63 friends, I got all of 50 plays. And that track with 2,000 plays, as songs go, sucks. I mean really SUCKS. It's 2 chords played over and over. My song BLOWS IT AWAY.

Contest is meaningless unless it's closed voting because this is a joke.

Dude, I'm sorry to say that but you are a bit delusional. I don't want to be harsh with you, but since it's not the first time you express similar complaints, I think I can say what's wrong in your post. I can see several valid reasons why this particular track could win over yours (although it is by no means my favorite).
Firstly, the primary reason of a contest like this is to showcase the capabilities of the synth. So sound design will be a very important factor in the final choice. And the sound design in this track is much more sophisticated than yours. Your song is based on the vocals (not made with SM) while his is based on the progression of sounds. That alone would be a reason for his to win over yours.

Secondly, music quality wise, his beat section isn't fantastic, but yours is simply non existent. A good beat would have improved your track a lot and made it a lot more popular. Also complaining that it has only two chords and therefore is inferior doesn't make sense. I remember you saying in an OSC that you put less than 2 hours of work for that particular track. The problem is it did sound like you put 2 hours of work and not more. How many hours have you put in this one ? You certainly didn't put 2 hours in the beat section.

But this still doesn't explain why his is more popular than yours. The main reason it is more popular is because this song is the kind of thing people like. After your repeated attempts at the OSC, you should know by now that your taste isn't that of everyone. I remember you saying that you'd rather listen to your own songs than anything else (more exactly, that when you commute, that's what you listen to). And that in my opnion is the main problem, because you don't seem to be very open to other styles. You can't complain that people prefer different styles than yours if you are too close minded to see why they are more popular.

Having said that, I'm not saying that this guy didn't cheat, he very well might have. But I don't think making the tracks unnamed would have changed anything regarding cheating because all you had to do is ask to vote for a particular URL.

[Aliens]

I didn't enter so just a voter with votes to be counted. From this topic I suspect if this was a bitching contest there would be quite a few winners.

I feel sorry for Bulent. Great synth, generous competition, tarnished by people who seem to have too much time on their hands and a much too high an opinion of themselves. I hope their negativity doesn't rub off on and besmirch KV331's awesome reputation.

Thank for a lovely instrument, Bulent. That's the positive I take from this thread.

[incubus]

I just wanted to say how jealous that I am that after a million years, I never thought of "Aliens" as my nick (how did that happen?? )

[Aliens]

lol. You could always try 'resurrection' or 'v predator'

[wagtunes]

For those of you bitching that I posted a link on Facebook to my 63 friends, I got all of 50 plays. And that track with 2,000 plays, as songs go, sucks. I mean really SUCKS. It's 2 chords played over and over. My song BLOWS IT AWAY.

Contest is meaningless unless it's closed voting because this is a joke.

Dude, I'm sorry to say that but you are a bit delusional. I don't want to be harsh with you, but since it's not the first time you express similar complaints, I think I can say what's wrong in your post. I can see several valid reasons why this particular track could win over yours (although it is by no means my favorite).
Firstly, the primary reason of a contest like this is to showcase the capabilities of the synth. So sound design will be a very important factor in the final choice. And the sound design in this track is much more sophisticated than yours. Your song is based on the vocals (not made with SM) while his is based on the progression of sounds. That alone would be a reason for his to win over yours.

Secondly, music quality wise, his beat section isn't fantastic, but yours is simply non existent. A good beat would have improved your track a lot and made it a lot more popular. Also complaining that it has only two chords and therefore is inferior doesn't make sense. I remember you saying in an OSC that you put less than 2 hours of work for that particular track. The problem is it did sound like you put 2 hours of work and not more. How many hours have you put in this one ? You certainly didn't put 2 hours in the beat section.

But this still doesn't explain why his is more popular than yours. The main reason it is more popular is because this song is the kind of thing people like. After your repeated attempts at the OSC, you should know by now that your taste isn't that of everyone. I remember you saying that you'd rather listen to your own songs than anything else (more exactly, that when you commute, that's what you listen to). And that in my opnion is the main problem, because you don't seem to be very open to other styles. You can't complain that people prefer different styles than yours if you are too close minded to see why they are more popular.

Having said that, I'm not saying that this guy didn't cheat, he very well might have. But I don't think making the tracks unnamed would have changed anything regarding cheating because all you had to do is ask to vote for a particular URL.

Whatever. I think, as a song, it sucks.

[wagtunes]

Oh, a couple of other things mister "know it all"

1) This is not an OSC. It's a "song" contest. Emphasis on "song." His loosely qualifies as one.

2) There are people in this contest who are using the player version and can't even make their own sounds. So apparently, that isn't an issue. So who cares what sounds he made? Again, this is not a synth challenge. It's a sound contest.

Emphasis on "song."

He cheated. He knows it. He doesn't care.

Guess what? Either do I?

[wagtunes]

Oh, and one last thing.

I do listen to other people's music. Been listening to other people's music for almost 50 years. Would you like me to list all the groups and artists I've listened to over those almost 50 years? Half of them you probably never even heard of.

Send our two songs (his and mine) to a music publisher and ask which is the better "song" and dollars to donuts he says it's mine.

End of story.

[neodeavid]

This is my song, i can't have much time to send, I asked Bulent to bring up the song only for promote and feedback, made with GarageBand and SynthMaster, except the Vocals and Drums


https://soundcloud.com/neodeavid/synthm ... pical-love

Greetings!

[lolilol1975]

kv331, please pay attention to the crash report I've submitted in your forum. It's systematic and easy to reproduce.

UP
Still no response from Bulent, as usual.

[kv331]

kv331, please pay attention to the crash report I've submitted in your forum. It's systematic and easy to reproduce.

UP
Still no response from Bulent, as usual.

For immediate support issues you should go through http://www.synthmaster.com/contactus.aspx

FYI, you get this error when your DAW doesnt send data in fixed buffer sizes. I always perform my tests with Reaper and it doesnt exhibit this behavious. What is your audio hardware and hardware buffer size? Is it not sending data in fixed buffer sizes?

[neodeavid]

It was very enjoyable to make a song as well! This was the first time I had used Synthmaster extensively.

Even though my entry is the typical "Eee Dee Ehm OMG Dubstep" that seems to get a bad rap on this forum, I made it a point to create each sound from scratch. It definitely improved my sound design practice.

<shameless_plug>
https://soundcloud.com/kv331synthmaster ... y-aj-young
</shameless_plug>

Except drums. Because holy cow drum synthesis is hard. Or at least very counter-intuitive to what I'm used to.

Hi "AJYoung"
What presets used between 1:15 to 1:30 bass, growls, screech, wobbles, and skrillex type sounds ?
or how do you make this presets, if is possible can you share, i try to found this sounds type without success :c, i newbie for make this sound design. Help please ?

I hope you win the competition.

[AJYoung]

What presets used between 1:15 to 1:30

Hey! Glad you like it. Yeah, that kind of sound design can be difficult especially for beginners. I know that feeling.

Like I said, no presets here, these were designed from scratch.

Anyways, aside from all the background risers/FX and Melody synths, there's 5 main patches here. I'm not gonna describe each patch in detail, that would take forever. But here's some basics.

1. A separate patch for sub-bass. This way you don't have different volume levels for each section. It's all consistent.

2. The main "Growl" patch. This starts with FM: Modulate a sine wave with another, more harmonically rich waveform. Usually at the same octave or higher, depending on the tone you want. This goes into a dual resonant filter: one highpass and one peak. Directly after is a distortion module. The vocal effect comes from this. Modulate the highpass upward while the peak goes down, so they meet in the middle. Adjust their cutoffs to get different vowel tones. You can also modulate the amount of FM in the oscillator section for a more pronounced effect.

3. The Vocoder Squelch. You can hear this one front and center in the second half of the drop section. This one's a trick I learned while trying to recreate sound design from Snails. You'll start with something already a bit squelchy, either by using Bend +/- on a waveform with overtones or using FM. Send this into a phaser that is slow moving with very little modulation. Then, route this into a Vocoder as BOTH the carrier and modulator. This gives an sound close to a comb filter, but more dynamic and moving. You can add a bit of distortion for taste after. In this one, you'll modulate the oscillator settings to get different tone, and the parameters of the phaser for your main sound of movement. (Side Note: so glad Synthmaster has a built-in vocoder)

4. The "Cooker" Lead. This one's pretty easy. You can hear it doing the little melodic bits at the start of the Third and Seventh bars. Two sine wave oscillators, one 4 octaves higher than the other, pushed into distortion. That's it. I think I added a 2-voice unison for some stereo width.

5. A reese-like patch. This one's hard to pick out in the song, because I only use it for little filler sounds. There are tons of tutorials on reese basses, but the main idea here is to detune two of the same waveform far enough to create a "beating" tone, where you can hear the phase cancellation in a rhythmic pattern. Following this is a series of bandpass and notch filters used to sculpt the tone, the distortion to make the "beating" and tone more pronounced.

Of course, all of these sounds are EQ'd to taste afterwards, and that just comes with mixing practice.

[balasco]

What presets used between 1:15 to 1:30 bass, growls, screech, wobbles, and skrillex type sounds ?

User presets will be released as a public preset bank on KV331 Audio’s web site after the contest.

[AJYoung]

User presets will be released as a public preset bank on KV331 Audio’s web site after the contest.

Haha maybe I should have labled my Easy Controls better then.

[balasco]

Haha maybe I should have labled my Easy Controls better then.

Yeah, I probably should have named my patches a bit better than 'new preset'.