KVR Audio

vurt · Post by **vurt** » Sat Oct 10, 2020 8:28 pm

yeah i love experience!

Unaspected · Post by **Unaspected** » Sat Oct 10, 2020 8:32 pm

Spring Goose wrote: Sat Oct 10, 2020 7:59 pm Big beats are best.

Get high all the time.

vurt · Post by **vurt** » Sat Oct 10, 2020 8:33 pm

an-electric-heart · Post by **an-electric-heart** » Sat Oct 10, 2020 9:02 pm

leeleema wrote: Sat Oct 10, 2020 8:24 pm Liam Howlett on the other hand went downhill immediately after the MFTJG IMHO. I've never met anyone who shares this opinion though and so many people love the Fat of the Land. Those first two albums are absolute crackers though. I listened to the Prodigy Experience last week and it has dated really well. Maybe some big beat/ post rave Prodigy (but pre Fat of the Land Prodigy) combo is in order

The thing with Prodigy is they really did change when Liam switched to software. Experience, Jilted and Fat of the Land, are made with hardware, and most of the music is made from manipulated samples.
Always Outnumbered, Never Outgunned was the first one made with software (Reason, I think), and it's quite obviously different, and quite obviously not as good.

leeleema · Post by **leeleema** » Sat Oct 10, 2020 9:13 pm

A lot of electronic music from that 90s era hasn't been bettered I think. There's brilliant electronic music now but the 'old stuff' still holds its own. There's defnitely something about the limitations of hardware and the preparation and planning that must have gone into every part of a track. Often live mixdowns too. Mouse on Mars, Biosphere and more obviously Aphex Twin stuff from that period (amongst many others) still sounds absolutely incredible now. And it's not even a nostalalgia factor, as I listen to stuff I simply didn't have access to 25 years ago when I was but a young lad

Spring Goose · Post by **Spring Goose** » Sat Oct 10, 2020 9:19 pm

leeleema wrote: Sat Oct 10, 2020 9:13 pm A lot of electronic music from that 90s era hasn't been bettered I think. There's brilliant electronic music now but the 'old stuff' still holds its own. There's defnitely something about the limitations of hardware and the preparation and planning that must have gone into every part of a track. Often live mixdowns too. Mouse on Mars, Biosphere and more obviously Aphex Twin stuff from that period (amongst many others) still sounds absolutely incredible now. And it's not even a nostalalgia factor, as I listen to stuff I simply didn't have access to 25 years ago when I was but a young lad

Are we just old?

Is that what happens when people getting old? My favourite trance is from 95 to 00. My favourite progressive is from 2000-2006. Maybe we have a limited capacity for liking songs? :p

Spring Goose · Post by **Spring Goose** » Sat Oct 10, 2020 9:24 pm

Maybe you're right, they just were the best songs!

leeleema · Post by **leeleema** » Sat Oct 10, 2020 9:29 pm

Spring Goose wrote: Sat Oct 10, 2020 9:19 pm
leeleema wrote: Sat Oct 10, 2020 9:13 pm A lot of electronic music from that 90s era hasn't been bettered I think. There's brilliant electronic music now but the 'old stuff' still holds its own. There's defnitely something about the limitations of hardware and the preparation and planning that must have gone into every part of a track. Often live mixdowns too. Mouse on Mars, Biosphere and more obviously Aphex Twin stuff from that period (amongst many others) still sounds absolutely incredible now. And it's not even a nostalalgia factor, as I listen to stuff I simply didn't have access to 25 years ago when I was but a young lad
Are we just old? Is that what happens when people getting old? My favourite trance is from 95 to 00. My favourite progressive is from 2000-2006. Maybe we have a limited capacity for liking songs? :p

I think there's defnitely an element of that. It's as if we are hard-wired to love the music we were into from our late teens ha. But then I'm well into the Beatles who are well before my time (wasn't into them as much in my teens) and still buy new albums from here there and everywhere and also stuff on beatport. But I defnitely have a softer spot for music from that part of my life

vurt · Post by **vurt** » Sat Oct 10, 2020 9:35 pm

its stuff thats attached to "the best years of our lives" all the heartbreaks and losing your virginity, the age when you could dance till sunrise. when the world was an open book!!!! all those possibles, attached to songs.

then later, your life tends to revolve around work and bills, so you dont live the carefree life, songs and albums get attached to boring things and thus get forgotten.
not to mention, those records you bought and wore out the groove playing it back to back, to every visitor.
now you might play it once, then hesr odd songs on random play on your itunes...

Spring Goose · Post by **Spring Goose** » Sat Oct 10, 2020 9:36 pm

leeleema wrote: Sat Oct 10, 2020 9:29 pm
Spring Goose wrote: Sat Oct 10, 2020 9:19 pm
leeleema wrote: Sat Oct 10, 2020 9:13 pm A lot of electronic music from that 90s era hasn't been bettered I think. There's brilliant electronic music now but the 'old stuff' still holds its own. There's defnitely something about the limitations of hardware and the preparation and planning that must have gone into every part of a track. Often live mixdowns too. Mouse on Mars, Biosphere and more obviously Aphex Twin stuff from that period (amongst many others) still sounds absolutely incredible now. And it's not even a nostalalgia factor, as I listen to stuff I simply didn't have access to 25 years ago when I was but a young lad
Are we just old? Is that what happens when people getting old? My favourite trance is from 95 to 00. My favourite progressive is from 2000-2006. Maybe we have a limited capacity for liking songs? :p
I think there's defnitely an element of that. It's as if we are hard-wired to love the music we were into from our late teens ha. But then I'm well into the Beatles who are well before my time (wasn't into them as much in my teens) and still buy new albums from here there and everywhere and also stuff on beatport. But I defnitely have a softer spot for music from that part of my life

I quite like The Beatles too, white album, revolver, magical mystery tour. I haven't heard better similar. In actual fact i don't think i've really heard similar of these 3 albums. Genre seems to go with era, perhaps the best songs seem best precisely because they've stood the test of time.

edit: I forgot Sgt Peppers. I'd like to hear big beat version of Sgt Peppers, not Fatboy Slim.

leeleema · Post by **leeleema** » Sat Oct 10, 2020 9:45 pm

I mean the Beatles stand alone, for me a real one off band. And the standard of George Martin's production means particularly the later albums still sound fresh (to my ears at least) and no where near over 50 years old

Spring Goose · Post by **Spring Goose** » Sat Oct 10, 2020 9:47 pm

leeleema wrote: Sat Oct 10, 2020 9:45 pm I mean the Beatles stand alone, for me a real one off band. And the standard of George Martin's production means particularly the later albums still sound fresh (to my ears at least) and no where near over 50 years old

(going well off topic now) Have you heard Blur - Leisure ? Got some mad harmonising on some of the chorus vocals. (tracks 3 and 12) I dunno if its Eventide. I think i have heard similar The Beatles.

Which genre should I produce ?