There is no proper standard for 20-pin modules, 14-pin is a bit better, but your bios needs to support the module as well, so best to stick to a gigabyte module - scan.co.uk have both the 20 and 14 Pi gigabyte modules listedLoveEnigma18 wrote: Fri Jun 25, 2021 11:06 am Bummer, my motherboard does not have TPM module installed. It just has a header, so I will need to buy it separately. Damn it. I will wait to see if Microsoft changes there requirements though. In the meantime, any suggestions for a TPM 2.0 module? I have a Gigabyte motherboard, but guess any brand is fine since it is a standard module.
Windows 11 coming very soon
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- KVRian
- 1062 posts since 3 Oct, 2011 from Christchurch, New Zealand
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- KVRian
- 1062 posts since 3 Oct, 2011 from Christchurch, New Zealand
If you can find one of the old gigabyte tpm1.2 modules it‘ll work with your z77 - but they’re long out of production so you’d need to find one used4damind wrote: Fri Jun 25, 2021 4:37 pmNot really.LoveEnigma18 wrote: Fri Jun 25, 2021 12:55 pm Oh, I see. Thanks for the info. As long as, it is a 20-pin one it should be good I guess.
I have a 20-pin TPM connector on my Gigabyte Z77 DSH3 and this a Z77 chipset (Intel 7 series). But on the Gigabyte website for the TPM modules there is no module that supports the 7 series, it starts with the 8 series.
Yes... this will be really interesting, because for many this will mean that they will have to buy new hardware (at the latest in 4 years when the support for Windows 10 ends).
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- KVRAF
- 4751 posts since 22 Nov, 2012
the comments. https://forums.theregister.com/forum/al ... indows_11/
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- KVRist
- 256 posts since 9 Jun, 2018
Allegedly Windows 11 will support firmware based TPM, which many motherboards have. So you will probably not need to go out and buy a TPM module. Just currently the System Checker tool does not properly pick it up on some systems, or it is not enabled in your BIOS or something like that. This according to Psychlist1972 on GearSluts (who I think works for Microsoft):
https://gearspace.com/board/music-compu ... e-277.html
https://gearspace.com/board/music-compu ... e-277.html
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- KVRian
- 589 posts since 19 Jan, 2008 from Bethlehem, PA USA
i just hope that i can use the Windows 7 shell i use in Windows 10 with Windows 11
my newest sounds:
https://soundcloud.com/the-das-kaput
Cakewalk by BandLab, Komplete 13, Maschine 2 (MKI & Jam), Fathom Synth, Guitars, Jam Origin MIDI Guitar, EXH Superego+ etc
https://soundcloud.com/the-das-kaput
Cakewalk by BandLab, Komplete 13, Maschine 2 (MKI & Jam), Fathom Synth, Guitars, Jam Origin MIDI Guitar, EXH Superego+ etc
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- Banned
- 1646 posts since 4 Aug, 2017
So I guess TPM 2.0 is a true minimum requirement:
Update, 2:26PM ET: Added that Microsoft updated its PC Health Check app, shortly after we published this story, to be more specific about why your computer isn’t meeting Windows 11 system requirements.
Update, 3:53PM ET: Added that Microsoft has changed its compatibility page to mention TPM 2.0 as a requirement instead of TPM 1.2, and that specific CPUs may be a requirement. We’re getting to the bottom of this now.
Correction, 8:06PM ET: This story originally stated Windows 11 would likely still install on PCs with access to TPM 1.2 and older CPUs, because that’s what we read in Microsoft’s documentation. Microsoft has now corrected those documents to specify TPM 2.0 is a minimum requirement for Windows 11.
https://www.theverge.com/2021/6/25/2255 ... t-security
To install or upgrade to Windows 11, devices must meet the following minimum hardware requirements:
Processor: 1 gigahertz (GHz) or faster with two or more cores on a compatible 64-bit processor or system on a chip (SoC).
RAM: 4 gigabytes (GB) or greater.
Storage: 64 GB* or greater available storage is required to install Windows 11.
Additional storage space might be required to download updates and enable specific features.
Graphics card: Compatible with DirectX 12 or later, with a WDDM 2.0 driver.
System firmware: UEFI, Secure Boot capable.
TPM: Trusted Platform Module (TPM) version 2.0.
Display: High definition (720p) display, 9" or greater monitor, 8 bits per color channel.
Internet connection: Internet connectivity is necessary to perform updates, and to download and use some features.
Windows 11 Home edition requires an Internet connection and a Microsoft Account to complete device setup on first use.
* There might be additional requirements over time for updates, and to enable specific features within the operating system. For more information, see Keeping Windows 11 up-to-date.
https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/window ... quirements
Update, 2:26PM ET: Added that Microsoft updated its PC Health Check app, shortly after we published this story, to be more specific about why your computer isn’t meeting Windows 11 system requirements.
Update, 3:53PM ET: Added that Microsoft has changed its compatibility page to mention TPM 2.0 as a requirement instead of TPM 1.2, and that specific CPUs may be a requirement. We’re getting to the bottom of this now.
Correction, 8:06PM ET: This story originally stated Windows 11 would likely still install on PCs with access to TPM 1.2 and older CPUs, because that’s what we read in Microsoft’s documentation. Microsoft has now corrected those documents to specify TPM 2.0 is a minimum requirement for Windows 11.
https://www.theverge.com/2021/6/25/2255 ... t-security
To install or upgrade to Windows 11, devices must meet the following minimum hardware requirements:
Processor: 1 gigahertz (GHz) or faster with two or more cores on a compatible 64-bit processor or system on a chip (SoC).
RAM: 4 gigabytes (GB) or greater.
Storage: 64 GB* or greater available storage is required to install Windows 11.
Additional storage space might be required to download updates and enable specific features.
Graphics card: Compatible with DirectX 12 or later, with a WDDM 2.0 driver.
System firmware: UEFI, Secure Boot capable.
TPM: Trusted Platform Module (TPM) version 2.0.
Display: High definition (720p) display, 9" or greater monitor, 8 bits per color channel.
Internet connection: Internet connectivity is necessary to perform updates, and to download and use some features.
Windows 11 Home edition requires an Internet connection and a Microsoft Account to complete device setup on first use.
* There might be additional requirements over time for updates, and to enable specific features within the operating system. For more information, see Keeping Windows 11 up-to-date.
https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/window ... quirements
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- Banned
- 1646 posts since 4 Aug, 2017
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 5913 posts since 17 Aug, 2004 from Berlin, Germany
It's all very confusing at the moment and I'm curious to see what will change before the official release (fall or winter?).
I will at least not be able to switch to Windows 11 because my system is currently not supported due to the lack of TPM 2.0 support. So I will have to think until 2025 if I buy/assemble a new PC or maybe even switch to the Mac.
I will at least not be able to switch to Windows 11 because my system is currently not supported due to the lack of TPM 2.0 support. So I will have to think until 2025 if I buy/assemble a new PC or maybe even switch to the Mac.
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- KVRAF
- 4751 posts since 22 Nov, 2012
with maybe a few corrections...
1: we should not have to dig around in a bios and look to work tpm to turn on a computer, if windows is so universally accepted...
2: They are also going to sell, and run on desktop linux, with android apps, is my understanding.
1: we should not have to dig around in a bios and look to work tpm to turn on a computer, if windows is so universally accepted...
2: They are also going to sell, and run on desktop linux, with android apps, is my understanding.
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- KVRAF
- 3506 posts since 12 May, 2011
Looking forward to Windows 12, after they fix the issues with 11.
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- KVRian
- 1353 posts since 31 Aug, 2007 from wales
i have tpm2 and not compatible
according to microsoft health check
sure it’ll be more sensible in time
according to microsoft health check
sure it’ll be more sensible in time
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- KVRist
- 212 posts since 11 Jul, 2016
Tbh I never had big problems with win10 other than the automatic update system. I was a bit annoyed with the on going change in ui and the inconsistencies there (settings spread across several places) instead of some proper new features like tabs in file explorer (for example). It seems like all ms did all those years is to f**k around with ui and that’s it.
While I find the win11 user interface appealing in terms of visual design, I still find the lack of usability enhancements quite telling. It seems like a desperate way to get off the bad win10 reputation (cortana, telemetry…) instead of a thoughtful new concept. What’s really new there?
Let’s wait and see what this is going to become.
Cheers
Marcel
While I find the win11 user interface appealing in terms of visual design, I still find the lack of usability enhancements quite telling. It seems like a desperate way to get off the bad win10 reputation (cortana, telemetry…) instead of a thoughtful new concept. What’s really new there?
Let’s wait and see what this is going to become.
Cheers
Marcel
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- KVRAF
- 3227 posts since 4 Jan, 2005
XP , 7 , and 10 were pretty good . 10 wasn't all that bad other than the forced updates . I'm not ready for 11 , I hope when I build my new PC I can still install 10 but probably not.