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putte · Post by **putte** » Sun Dec 18, 2005 9:21 pm

.. huh? all these pics look rather like some sort of guitar amplifiers ..

i didnt see not even one slot for drums ..

i´ll wait only a little bit longer, and if its not there by then i´ll go for Ableton Live (i heard it let me do drums!). basta ..

putte

A3ntar · Post by **A3ntar** » Sun Dec 18, 2005 9:23 pm

I like the old one better, much more faithfull to the original

So Vox and Mesa didn't like the big ressemblance visually. I hope they did not also pressure IKMM in changing the plugin sonically as well.

Oh well...It seems to be only going downhill for AT2.

cptgone · Post by **cptgone** » Sun Dec 18, 2005 9:31 pm

Buddhists use "Amplitube 2" as a mantra symbolising "the amply Long March that may or may not lead to Nirwana", ringing their tube bells.

Sascha Franck · Post by **Sascha Franck** » Sun Dec 18, 2005 9:38 pm

A3ntar wrote:I like the old one better, much more faithfull to the original

But it won't sound as the original anyways - why look like them then?

A3ntar · Post by **A3ntar** » Sun Dec 18, 2005 9:43 pm

But it won't sound as the original anyways - why look like them then?

Hmmm...but it is really trying hard to though. I think when they say "based on AC30", it means that they emulate it (using the famous DSM technology).

A3ntar · Post by **A3ntar** » Sun Dec 18, 2005 9:45 pm

Here is the list as of octobre 2005

More than 80 models of guitar gear included

AmpliTube 2 contains more than 80 models based on must-have acclaimed guitar hardware gear. Here a listing of all the components that have been modeled inside AmpliTube 2:

14 Pre-amp and EQ models based on:

Solid State Clean
Solid State Lead
Solid State Fuzz
Modern Hi-Gain
Fender Bassman
Fender SuperReverb
Fender DeLuxeReverb
Marshall JCM800
Marshall JCM900
MesaBoogie Double Rectifier
Vox AC30
THD BiValve
Supro
Bass Amp
16 Cabinets:

Small 1x6"
Modern 4x12" closed
Vintage 4x10" open
Vintage 4x12" closed
Modern 2x12" closed
Modern 1x12" open
Vintage 2x12" open
Bass 4x10"
Bass 4x10"+tw
Bass 1x12"
Modern 1x12" II
Vintage 4x12" closed II
Modern 4x10" closed l II
Modern 1x10" open
Vintage 2x12" open II
7 power-amps:

Class A EL84
Class A Single Ended
100W EL34
50W EL34
100W 6L6
50 W 6L6
Solid State
6 response emulations on microphone models based on:

Shure SM57
Sennheiser MD421
Sennheiser MD441
Neumann U87
Neumann KM84
AKG C414
21 Modeled Stomp effects, including:

Wah
Compressor
Envelope Filter
LFO Filter
Tremolo
Chorus
Flanger,
Delay
Pitch Shifter
Harmonizer
Overdrive
Crusher
Graphic EQ
Volume
Plus vintage stomp models based on:

Boss Octaver
Boss CE-1
Arbiter Fuzz Face
MXR Dynacomp
MXR Phaser 100
Electro Harmonix Memory Man
Ibanez Tube Screamer

11 Rack Effects:

3 band parametric EQ
Harmonizer
Pitch Shifter
Digital Flanger
Analog Chorus
Digital Chorus
Digital Delay
Digital Reverb
Rotary Speaker
Tube Compressor
Stereo Enhancer

Sascha Franck · Post by **Sascha Franck** » Sun Dec 18, 2005 9:48 pm

Yeah well, great list - if at least one of the essential things will sound real.

A3ntar · Post by **A3ntar** » Mon Dec 19, 2005 11:16 pm

Squids, have you got any "insider" news on that AC30 and Double Rectifier? Besides cosmetics, dId IKMM have to change how they sonically sound as well?

Amberience · Post by **Amberience** » Mon Dec 19, 2005 11:27 pm

Sascha Franck wrote:Yeah well, great list - if at least one of the essential things will sound real.

Yeah but we already know you're not going to like it, I mean, you've made your mind up already right??

Sascha Franck · Post by **Sascha Franck** » Tue Dec 20, 2005 12:11 am

No. I didn't. But after all that hype, AT2 *has* to be something entirely different from what's available allready.

Hink · Post by **Hink** » Tue Dec 20, 2005 12:33 am

take it as a lesson folks, always promise less then you're sure you can deliver and you're more likely to come out looking better than worse....

mondo tormento · Post by **mondo tormento** » Tue Dec 20, 2005 12:36 pm

~BURNY~ wrote:It's here:
New:

Old:

Now that's just silly. I doubt that Vox has exclusive rights to the diamond cloth. The new brown cloth looks like some 70's bed covering

A_Gruesome_Discovery · Tue Dec 20, 2005 3:27 pm

So, the emulation is either
A) so bad that Mesa and Vox want their names in no way associated with this product, and definitely don't want people thinking their amps sound like this,
OR
B) so good that they're actually afraid that all hardware amps will lose their value, and don't want people to realize that this is a cheaper alternative.

Yeah, I picked A too. Line6 calls it the A-30. NI calls it the AC-Box. But now IK can't call it anything close to "Vox AC30", and can't even use the cloth pattern. What's up with that?

Len · Post by **Len** » Tue Dec 20, 2005 3:49 pm

They should call it the "IK-30".

haha

Squids · Post by **Squids** » Tue Dec 20, 2005 3:49 pm

A3ntar wrote:Squids, have you got any "insider" news on that AC30 and Double Rectifier? Besides cosmetics, dId IKMM have to change how they sonically sound as well?

Of course not the sound. That has stayed the same and is awesome (IMO as well as those who have heard it at trade shows). But, you can see some work has been done on the graphics to make it more general "hinting" at the original. More tasteful if you ask me. I don't like it when the product looks too much like the original. But, a nice hint at it is enough to get the idea (some like elements, some different). AT2 really is a new product feature-wise and all together with everything else. A hybrid of emulation and innovation.

I did ask about the riff demos and apparently they are being finalized as I write. I can't wait to hear those myself. The tones I've been getting with my beta version are stellar though. I will be sharing those with you guys soon. I have some NAMM deadlines on our drum and loop libraries printing, pressing etc. to take care of first and a bunch of SRians going on vacation so the pressure is on! But, when I can relax I will lay down some tasty riffs of my own with it... even though I know that even if I tricked you and played you riffs with a REAL amp but didn't tell you there would be some people that claimed it didn't sound real.

I might do that. Throw in a few real amps and not tell you which just so I can point out the phoney bastards!

Oh, that would be fun. If only I had more time.

I did find out what the hold up is on AT2. Although, I don't understand it technically because I don't write code. It has a whole new framework that will power AT2 as well as Ampeg so it is a complex beast I am sure. The developers want to get it just right and I respect that. I am patiently waiting for the final version to play with myself. Obviously it will be at NAMM. So, get your ticket and go to Anaheim to play with it yourself! I know some of you will be there and I look forward to hanging a bit with some KVRians.

Now, back to work. Squids = busy.

Amplitube 2 Jimi Hendrix RELEASED this month!!!