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chrishurley · Post by **chrishurley** » Tue Jan 17, 2006 2:26 am

I was gonna say something about piling on effects and other things that will make the product more and more expensive, but I'll just keep it to myself.

Stupid American Pig · Post by **Stupid American Pig** » Tue Jan 17, 2006 2:26 am

As Sascha Said...

- Plexi
- Boogie Mark I/II
- Cranked Bassman
- AC30
- Matchless

Guitarjeff · Post by **Guitarjeff** » Tue Jan 17, 2006 3:04 am

Midiworks wrote:Here is your chance !

Please name 5 "Drive" amp models you would like to see in the Soundspectral amp sim.

The 5 most wanted will be included !

As you might know by now,
those amps will be as real as it can get.

(not just a fancy gui that plays with your imagination, but does not deliver punishment. )

#1. Jose Arredondo modded Marshall (Ala EVH, John Sykes, Jake Lee, etc.)

#2 Soldano SLO

#3 JCM 800

#4 Bogner Uberschall

#5 Marshall Plexi

I own the SLO and JCM 800 and have access to a Jose so I can compare easily.

Jeff

AndrewSimon · Post by **AndrewSimon** » Tue Jan 17, 2006 3:49 am

Guitarjeff wrote: #4 Bogner Uberschall

Now that's a real challenge Rene!
Check it out:
http://www.bogneramplification.com/MP3.htm#Uberschall

wsaidah · Post by **wsaidah** » Tue Jan 17, 2006 3:57 am

Selmer Zodiac 30-40 watt

Guitarjeff · Post by **Guitarjeff** » Tue Jan 17, 2006 4:59 am

AndrewSimon wrote:
Guitarjeff wrote: #4 Bogner Uberschall
Now that's a real challenge Rene!
Check it out:
http://www.bogneramplification.com/MP3.htm#Uberschall

Actually, the Jose is probably a bigger challenge because of the mystery surrounding his mods and the fact that he is dead. It also is the best sounding amp I've ever played through. My friend has one, and I also played through Jake E. Lee's two Jose heads when I auditioned for Ozzy's band back in the mid 80's (Zak Wylde got the gig

) What an amazing tone Jake's setup had!!

Jeff

AndrewSimon · Post by **AndrewSimon** » Tue Jan 17, 2006 5:20 am

Guitarjeff wrote:
AndrewSimon wrote:
Guitarjeff wrote: #4 Bogner Uberschall
Now that's a real challenge Rene!
Check it out:
http://www.bogneramplification.com/MP3.htm#Uberschall
Actually, the Jose is probably a bigger challenge because of the mystery surrounding his mods and the fact that he is dead. It also is the best sounding amp I've ever played through. My friend has one, and I also played through Jake E. Lee's two Jose heads when I auditioned for Ozzy's band back in the mid 80's (Zak Wylde got the gig ) What an amazing tone Jake's setup had!!

Jeff

But do you even have a sample for him to work with?

Lunch Money · Post by **Lunch Money** » Tue Jan 17, 2006 5:23 am

That Uberschall sounds fizzy! I LIKE it, don't get me wrong, but it's a bit soft around the edges. I was surprised, as I don't know much about those amps and I've always been told they're good.

Another amp that I only know from hearing in songs (not from playing one myself) are the Dumble amps. I don't know enough about them to even judge if you did a good job one way or another. But if testimonies are to be believed, the Super Overdrive would suit my needs for clean and "thick smooth drive" perfectly, if both channels were emulated.

I'm not a fan of Santana since the comeback, but when I was trying to find tone clips, I came across this article in which he talks about Dumble amps quite a bit:

http://www.musicplayer.com/lounge/setups/santana.htm

I'll post back if I can find some sound clips. I know they get used on the John Mayer Trio CD, but I don't know specifically which songs are through Dumbles.

kilroy · Post by **kilroy** » Tue Jan 17, 2006 5:28 am

Guitarjeff wrote:I auditioned for Ozzy's band back in the mid 80's (Zak Wylde got the gig

Blimey Jeff...how did you lose a gig to that light weight?!

Guitarjeff · Post by **Guitarjeff** » Tue Jan 17, 2006 5:29 am

AndrewSimon wrote:
Guitarjeff wrote:
AndrewSimon wrote:
Guitarjeff wrote: #4 Bogner Uberschall
Now that's a real challenge Rene!
Check it out:
http://www.bogneramplification.com/MP3.htm#Uberschall
Actually, the Jose is probably a bigger challenge because of the mystery surrounding his mods and the fact that he is dead. It also is the best sounding amp I've ever played through. My friend has one, and I also played through Jake E. Lee's two Jose heads when I auditioned for Ozzy's band back in the mid 80's (Zak Wylde got the gig ) What an amazing tone Jake's setup had!!

Jeff
But do you even have a sample for him to work with?

I can easily get samples since my friend owns one if Rene is actually interested. Of course, Anything from VH-1 or VH-2, Ozzy's "Bark At The Moon" or "Ulitimate Sin" or Whitesnake's 1987 S/T record (think "Still Of The Night" tone) or any of the Blue Murder stuff has the tones all over it. I think the Motley Crue guy used Jose's amps in the Girls Girls Girls/Dr. Feelgood Period also.

Jeff

Guitarjeff · Post by **Guitarjeff** » Tue Jan 17, 2006 5:33 am

kilroy wrote:
Guitarjeff wrote:I auditioned for Ozzy's band back in the mid 80's (Zak Wylde got the gig
Blimey Jeff...how did you lose a gig to that light weight?!

I dunno. He probably just got lucky that day.

I was thrilled just to jam with Ozzy's band. Randy Castillo (RIP) was really cool and awesome to play with. Don Airey too.
Of course Ozzy wasn't there.

Jeff

Lunch Money · Post by **Lunch Money** » Tue Jan 17, 2006 5:35 am

Still no Dumble samples, but the more I read, the more I discover that it's fairly well-known and "legendary", whereas I thought it was more an independent boutique builder kind of thing.

This guy makes no bones about who his inspiration is for his amps, so if you can get tones like those in the "OverDrive Supreme" samples below, you'll be in the right ballpark:

http://michaellewismusic.com/fuchs/samples.html

It's important to note that with double-stop techniques, while the distortion is definitely more pronounced and... hrm... "granular"? sounding like most amps, it still doesn't get all flappy sounding like every sim I've heard.

Greg

[edit: PS, I in no way condone Michael Lewis's 'Adult contemporary' style of backing tracks.

]

mman · Post by **mman** » Tue Jan 17, 2006 6:53 am

Midiworks wrote: Diezel VH4
Bogner Xtc
Dual Rectifier
5150
Will be there.

So, Rene said four of them are already there, I guess we must decide about the last one....

My vote goes to ... Plexi

Guitarjeff · Post by **Guitarjeff** » Tue Jan 17, 2006 6:53 am

Lunch Money wrote:That Uberschall sounds fizzy! I LIKE it, don't get me wrong, but it's a bit soft around the edges. I was surprised, as I don't know much about those amps and I've always been told they're good.

Another amp that I only know from hearing in songs (not from playing one myself) are the Dumble amps. I don't know enough about them to even judge if you did a good job one way or another. But if testimonies are to be believed, the Super Overdrive would suit my needs for clean and "thick smooth drive" perfectly, if both channels were emulated.

I'm not a fan of Santana since the comeback, but when I was trying to find tone clips, I came across this article in which he talks about Dumble amps quite a bit:

http://www.musicplayer.com/lounge/setups/santana.htm

I'll post back if I can find some sound clips. I know they get used on the John Mayer Trio CD, but I don't know specifically which songs are through Dumbles.

SRV played through Dumbles also. Not exclusively, but he used the Super Overdirve a lot.

Jeff

slurm_addiction · Post by **slurm_addiction** » Tue Jan 17, 2006 8:35 am

Diezel VH4
Bogner Xtc
Dual Rectifier
5150
JCM800

Here's my wishlist. 5 great amps perfectly simulated...what a dream!

no other ampsim can do that yet.
Make it simple! few amps but the most real you can.

( In other words: I don't want to wait another year to see this thing finished :_(

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