Amplitube 2 Jimi Hendrix RELEASED this month!!!

[Squids]

the riffs are being finalized....funny that sounds a little fishy too me...I mean the riffs and demos should be raw....

You guys read into everything! Finalized as in collecting all of the different ones and choosing which ones to put on line. Jeeez! Just trying to keep you guys updated here. But, you know it kind of makes me look bad if you interpret my words to mean negative things. I don't want to piss off the person making those riffs! I will have to say nothing then if you guys are going to have overactive imaginations and paranoia.

First squids I went out my way to say it wasn't personal...but I take some offense at your reply...fcuk the person making the riff, you would rather piss off customers? If they are mking them as they should and I'm wrong, then why do they take so long?...I want to know it's real and get accused of being paranoid...you know what? I don't like magic on tv either...your reply was uncalled for...


FWIW I don't jump to conclusions about any gear and am very open minded...you just closd it some by your response...

Fair enough. Sorry about that. Didn't intend to offend. But, like I said, I was just describing that they were being put together to go on line. With that being misunderstood by anyone it could possibly make whoever is doing those demos tell me to shut my trap. Because I am sure the last thing they'd want is for me to give the impression that they are doctored, mastered etc. Of course they are not. No one would do that. There's no need to anyway because AT2 sounds great.

I tried to put in a nice friendly tag but I guess that was missed. Again, sorry. I am of the mind to not take anything TOO seriously around here. I enjoy hanging out and talking with you guys. Peace!

[Squids]

Seriously. I respect all y'all, but Squids isn't out to harm anyone. Au contraire, you can practically sense how painful it is for him to try to pick the right diplomatic terms, keeping us informed without breaching a sense of duty to IK or eSoundz, and also trying his best not to piss us off.

Greg

Exactly. Being the owner of IK's #1 sound partner, SR, has earned me a certain amount of trust to get away with just about saying as much as anyone could without crossing the line. (more than some would risk doing if they were an employee for example... I know that no one in SR would be allowed to say anything about SR products and even Kim (esoundz) is very careful what he says regarding SR products because there is liability for disclosure etc.)

So, you know, in the spirit of entertainment and useful discussion I offer participation... amidst a busy schedule too (but it is a nice break from work anyway so I don't mind).

When you post as much as I do about sensitive stuff you are bound to piss off some people. I am very blunt and also sometimes sarcastic... but really light-hearted and don't intend to be nasty to anyone. I'm pretty friendly. I didn't mean to offend Hink. I can see I set him off pretty good. I hope he can accept my apology and just take my explanation for face value. In his defense, I probably should have used better wording than "finalize" (which really DOES "sound" like mastering... I only meant do the final preparation to put it on line).

I can go back and edit the post if you want, Hink.

[Hink]

all these two faced people here I see, even people I thought were above that...you make a criticism and you're cool...me I make a criticism (btw a legit one), and I get jumped on...real nice.

I wont buy anything I can't try...I'm not saying Squids is being dishonest...but you guys bitch about the samples not being here and its fine...I make a comment that it seems like a bullshit excuse after three months to say thy are finalizing them...I wanted a defination of finalizing... and you jump on me ...

Had he left out the paranoid and reading something into everything (especially after all the reading into things everyone of you that has posted here today has done...everyone) I would not of found it offensive. Believe it or not other companies that have had equal or more exposure and respect over the years have done worse things...I know I've seen it...think SR&D...

I really dont have to explain why I'm critical, but I am...it's my money and my right...

BTW the Finalizer is a DP mastering device, so imo to pick out the samples should take all of half an hour...what's the hold up? Finalizing is a process in music...maybe he should of said it flat out...they're picking out the samples and arranging them now...apparently these guys seem to think the term finalize means altering, repairing and mastering the sound, please forgive oh awesome ones for seeing the word and applying it the way I am use to. Too me in meant mastered (as it does to many) sorry but mastered mp3s won't cut it for me as a demo.

I accept Squids answer but don't like how it was delivered, I mearly asked the questions in my mind...just like you hypocrites...

[Hink]

Seriously. I respect all y'all, but Squids isn't out to harm anyone. Au contraire, you can practically sense how painful it is for him to try to pick the right diplomatic terms, keeping us informed without breaching a sense of duty to IK or eSoundz, and also trying his best not to piss us off.

Greg

Exactly. Being the owner of IK's #1 sound partner, SR, has earned me a certain amount of trust to get away with just about saying as much as anyone could without crossing the line. (more than some would risk doing if they were an employee for example... I know that no one in SR would be allowed to say anything about SR products and even Kim (esoundz) is very careful what he says regarding SR products because there is liability for disclosure etc.)

So, you know, in the spirit of entertainment and useful discussion I offer participation... amidst a busy schedule too (but it is a nice break from work anyway so I don't mind).

When you post as much as I do about sensitive stuff you are bound to piss off some people. I am very blunt and also sometimes sarcastic... but really light-hearted and don't intend to be nasty to anyone. I'm pretty friendly. I didn't mean to offend Hink. I can see I set him off pretty good. I hope he can accept my apology and just take my explanation for face value. In his defense, I probably should have used better wording than "finalize" (which really DOES "sound" like mastering... I only meant do the final preparation to put it on line).

I can go back and edit the post if you want, Hink.

really squids you dont have to, you said the same as me there are many who believe master and finalizing are the same and like I say I accept your reason...I just didn't appreciate being called paranoid when I want to be sure...you have nothing to apologize for though...it's no sweat.

I do honestly question and have in the past some of the marketing techniques being employed...it seems that (and this is just my opinion) that the target customer base are those who may be a little less experienced then all of us. I buy by what sounds good to me, not by name or by the advertisement.

I am apalled that some people jumped the fence real quick here...but Squids it's nothing for you to worry about...I respect you and what you offer here and have learned a lot from you...but in retail I have also seen grand marketing schemes that fall on their face (and felt like an asshole for selling it to people)...anyone hear of Tusc amps?...when I see some of the familiar signs I start to look deeper...until today I thought that was being and educated consumer...

[Squids]

Okay, I get ya. By the way, I was speaking in general as Beer noted. And with that I was trying to be only semi-serious about it. "you guys are paranoid" in general. I ended up editing it out on my own anyway in case it came off too harsh. Guess I was right.

All good though. Btw, Hink, I like your sig and I agree.

[Hink]

Okay, I get ya. By the way, I was speaking in general as Beer noted. And with that I was trying to be only semi-serious about it. "you guys are paranoid" in general. I ended up editing it out on my own anyway in case it came off too harsh. Guess I was right.

All good though. Btw, Hink, I like your sig and I agree.

it's all good squids...but I don't put being a wise shopper and paranoid in the same vein...I have to make my money last me a lifetime....but in fairness if I walk into a store and see a tv marked down...I question why...when a salesman keeps pressuring me...I ask why...when it comes to retail 99% of the time, before making a purchase you need to dig past the surface. People buy junk everyday, just like P.T. Barnum said..remember I also question the licensing of names...why can't amplitude make it on their own name...I am a tough sell, that is quite true. But when I do make my purchase, if I'm happy I shout it out loud and become a very loyal customer...

BTW in 1982 I convinced my best friend he should buy a Tusc amp...I believed the hype, but I learned my lesson. I learned that features are worthless, benefits are what really matters.

My friend from a major software company said they have people who lurk in forums such as KVR, his words stick with me...they don't push the advertising here because the believe forums like this are a breeding ground for contempt.

But the truth is the average consumer is so silly. I'm always surprised by how little investigation they put into a product. Like say a demo of a new exciter...totally unique...someone downloads the demo of something they have never even tried, try a few presets, tweak a few knobs and decide it's good or bad...bt face it, that's not an educated purchase...if you are using a demo of something you really don't know anything about then your decision is based on your lack of education or understanding...not the other way around.

Interestingly enough I started a thread about that very thing in September, I'm not sure if anyone replied....I gave up. That just tells me that I may be right, and some don't want to believe that perhaps with a little research, and a little patience they might have done better or made better purchases.

BTW I'm not perfect, I got a lot of junk I'll never use. I bought a cannon camera last fall (very nice camera for the money), two weeks later I got an email from buy.com...the camera I bought at best buy was 60 dollars less from them...however I'm not sorry, I had a chance to decide which was best for me and compare models.

[Squids]

I totally agree. An informed purchase is the best kind. I would never expect someone to just buy it on my recommendation (although probably many do). I strongly recommend people get as much info and experience with a product (if possible) as they can. I wish that there were easier ways for people to try sample libraries for example. Stores with comptuers that work right so you can go up and try stuff out. But, that isn't always possible. Still, with AT2, I think it will be possible to check it out in a store when it is out. You're a smart buyer. I respect that.

[putte]

.. all i want is that IK learns big time out of this AT2 disaster. (at least their marketing people).
because so far it simply is a disaster, and there´s nothing at all to argue about it as the facts are clear:
there are no real facts. period.

i´d even go so far that its about time for IK to give official explanations. though, i know that we live in a f**ked up marketing/media/competition/pride/show-off world .. so we won´t see a a clear explanation for the delay.

and i stick to my bet that even NAMM will only bring us another marketing-demonstration. if we´re lucky we can hear some mp3´s, but i highly doubt that we´ll see the first user-reviews anytime soon.

anyway, personally i can see things in this a bit lighter cause i am happy using GR2, and it grows on me day by day ..

putte

[putte]

.. it´s very interesting though that the Ampeg-case gets discussed again, as i really thought this is going to be vaporware for all times ..

putte

[daGuru]

.. all i want is that IK learns big time out of this AT2 disaster. (at least their marketing people).
because so far it simply is a disaster, and there´s nothing at all to argue about it as the facts are clear:
there are no real facts. period.

i´d even go so far that its about time for IK to give official explanations. though, i know that we live in a f**ked up marketing/media/competition/pride/show-off world .. so we won´t see a a clear explanation for the delay.

and i stick to my bet that even NAMM will only bring us another marketing-demonstration. if we´re lucky we can hear some mp3´s, but i highly doubt that we´ll see the first user-reviews anytime soon.

anyway, personally i can see things in this a bit lighter cause i am happy using GR2, and it grows on me day by day ..

putte

1000% agree... Putte in serious mode hehe... Good to see

IK dropped the ball. Simple really, don't make deadlines you can't keep

ps. I'm working on a new proggie myself (pics @ http://www.xanga.com/daGuru_no1 )... was aiming for an xmas release, but now... I'll take my time LOL

[A3ntar]

ps. I'm working on a new proggie myself (pics @ http://www.xanga.com/daGuru_no1 )... was aiming for an xmas release, but now... I'll take my time LOL

Are you working on a spreadsheet VST plugin?

[A3ntar]

I did find out what the hold up is on AT2. Although, I don't understand it technically because I don't write code. It has a whole new framework that will power AT2 as well as Ampeg so it is a complex beast I am sure. The developers want to get it just right and I respect that.

But Squids, I mean did they have to re-change the framework? It seems to me that if you have a working and fantasctic sounding beta version, then they didn't need to change much. So the delay is only due to framework and not copy protection?

Still, with AT2, I think it will be possible to check it out in a store when it is out.

Does that imply that there won't be a downloadable demo version for AT2 like AT1?

Thanks Squids for your input.

[A_Gruesome_Discovery]

Still, with AT2, I think it will be possible to check it out in a store when it is out.

Does that imply that there won't be a downloadable demo version for AT2 like AT1?

AW HELL NAW!

[Len]

Hey Squids, I know you are promising AT2 for NAMM, but... which NAMM, and which year???! Summer NAMM 2008 ain't gonna do me any good

[Squids]

Hey Squids, I know you are promising AT2 for NAMM, but... which NAMM, and which year???! Summer NAMM 2008 ain't gonna do me any good

This coming Winter NAMM of course.