NI have announced they will no longer activate discontinued products

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chk071 wrote: Tue Mar 10, 2020 5:01 pm
audiot wrote: Tue Mar 10, 2020 4:58 pm How can someone defend NI, after Massive X and all that insubstantial Komplete-Updates. Sorry ... I dont get it :? :? :?
Then don't get it. Also, I don't think it's really about defending NI, it's about being a bit reasonable towards a company who's holding a candle for a business, which is very hard, if you want to make some money. Also, I don't think anyone benefits by talking the biggest player into the ground, especially when it comes from a few individuals, just like here.

But, the most important thing I always wonder about is how people don't even take note of solutions, while being busy to put the hammer on a company. That's something I don't get, and something I just can shake my head about.
Putting a hammer on a company? They made a lot of stupid decisions over the last years. And it doesn't help anyone if you sweep that under the carpet :?: After the redundancies last december they should rethink their business strategy instead of acting like a bull in a china shop. Again: I dont get it!!! :dog:

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I have Komplete 5, but I should also have Vokator and Spektral Delay-
these plugs are gold imo
They are really nice- the bundle and those 2,
NI corporate rules though
I wonder what I want in here
-my site is gone and music a mess

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GaryG wrote: Tue Mar 10, 2020 4:43 pmAnd my Reaktor is actually v3 (bought from that el-bo geezer funnily enough)
Blimey! Nine years ago! You're lucky to have dealt with him so early on. Since then he's turned into a right dodgy ****! :scared:

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nix808 wrote: Tue Mar 10, 2020 5:28 pm I have Komplete 5, but I should also have Vokator and Spektral Delay-
these plugs are gold imo
They are really nice- the bundle and those 2,
NI corporate rules though
Sounds that you are not generating a lot of revenue for NI.
In business terms: they don't care about you.
Sorry to be that blunt.
Nothing personal.

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chk071 wrote: Tue Mar 10, 2020 5:08 pm
dellboy wrote: Tue Mar 10, 2020 5:05 pm But my boxed version of Kontakt 2 will just cease to function after May 31st if I ever uninstall it, and it acts as the base product for my other upgrades which makes selling them more difficult.
How? The way I understand it, you just sell the upgraded version plus the upgrade.
I will have to admit I do not understand how this works.

So I upgraded from Kontakt 2 to 5 and then 6, so even though Kontakt 2 can no longer be activated I can still sell Kontakt 6 ?

Will the buyer not need a base product to make it activate because its an upgrade and not the full version ?

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You can even sell the single upgrades. And, yes, the buyer needs to have the base product then. So, you also would have to sell Kontakt 2, if the buyer doesn't have a product which qualifies for the upgrade.

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chk071 wrote: Tue Mar 10, 2020 5:37 pm You can even sell the single upgrades. And, yes, the buyer needs to have the base product then. So, you also would have to sell Kontakt 2, if the buyer doesn't have a product which qualifies for the upgrade.
This is what I thought, I will need to sell Kontakt 2 -5 - 6 and Komplete 12) before May 31st so they will have a base product to activate them.

After that its throw Kontakt 2 in the dustbin time.

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No way, you can activate Kontakt 5 or 6. Don't have to activate Kontakt 2 to activate them. It's just for the upgrade path.

"Activate" should rather read "authorize" in this case anyway.
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Bye then NI, hardly knew ya.

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chk071 wrote: Tue Mar 10, 2020 5:57 pm No way, you can activate Kontakt 5 or 6. Don't have to activate Kontakt 2 to activate them. It's just for the upgrade path.

"Activate" should rather read "authorize" in this case anyway.
Right, thanks - some good news then. :tu:

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dellboy wrote: Tue Mar 10, 2020 5:53 pm
chk071 wrote: Tue Mar 10, 2020 5:37 pm You can even sell the single upgrades. And, yes, the buyer needs to have the base product then. So, you also would have to sell Kontakt 2, if the buyer doesn't have a product which qualifies for the upgrade.
This is what I thought, I will need to sell Kontakt 2 -5 - 6 and Komplete 12) before May 31st so they will have a base product to activate them.

After that its throw Kontakt 2 in the dustbin time.
I haven't done this with NI, but this is what I assume will happen. You will sell your Kontakt 6 (most recent product) The 2, 5 and 6 will disappear out of your account and only 6 will appear in the person who bought it's account. And your box product will be useless. Because you can only sell the most recent product. Technically, the prior products no longer exist, even if they still show in your account.

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chk071 wrote: Mon Mar 09, 2020 9:08 pmIf you still have them installed, you can use them. And, if you don't, you can activate them until the 31st of May. Then you won't be able to activate them anymore on a new installation.

I'm sure all that is clear to you though.
Indeed, perfectly clear. Not sure why you felt the need to post this.

My concern (as several others have voiced) was for when I need to upgrade my computer.
A well-behaved signature.

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Sorry, the post was addressed to AnX. It was a bit misunderstandable.

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Baum wrote: Tue Mar 10, 2020 5:59 pm Bye then NI, hardly knew ya.
Have you set up this new account just for trolling this thread? :roll:

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Calenberger wrote: Tue Mar 10, 2020 5:31 pm
nix808 wrote: Tue Mar 10, 2020 5:28 pm I have Komplete 5, but I should also have Vokator and Spektral Delay-
these plugs are gold imo
They are really nice- the bundle and those 2,
NI corporate rules though
Sounds that you are not generating a lot of revenue for NI.
In business terms: they don't care about you.
Sorry to be that blunt.
Nothing personal.
Problem is that they don't care about even the ones who create revenue for them.
The writing has been on the wall for some time with NI. They are more interested in selling sound expansions. I don't hate NI - I use their stuff less and less every year, because I've got stuff that's better.

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