What drives you crazy in Bitwig?
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- KVRer
- 2 posts since 21 Jan, 2021
personally, i really dislike piano rolls for midi/drum sequencing. my pipe dream addition would be different methods of sequencing in clips, like dedicated and feature-full step sequencer, tracker sequencer in the vein of renoise's redux, and of course a midi grid alongside custom interface building
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- KVRist
- 158 posts since 1 Oct, 2020
Cakewalk 1 Lite <3 ........T71 wrote: Fri Apr 16, 2021 5:46 am Step sequencer tracks, like Cakewalk for example, is sorely missing.
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- KVRist
- 158 posts since 1 Oct, 2020
FL studio ui for beatboxes finally not that bad, or TB-303 + swing/groove..datamask wrote: Thu Apr 15, 2021 9:44 pm personally, i really dislike piano rolls for midi/drum sequencing. my pipe dream addition would be different methods of sequencing in clips, like dedicated and feature-full step sequencer, tracker sequencer in the vein of renoise's redux, and of course a midi grid alongside custom interface building
(im fighting alone for the lost of a skinable UI devs will never give us....)
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- KVRAF
- 12094 posts since 2 Dec, 2004 from North Wales
If they go midi grid, I would expect some modules like various sorts of step sequencer would be included.
That said, a fully integrated 'step sequencer layout' as an edit type (piano roll or step) would also work well!
That said, a fully integrated 'step sequencer layout' as an edit type (piano roll or step) would also work well!
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- Banned
- 11467 posts since 4 Jan, 2017 from Warsaw, Poland
That would however require new type of clip ("pattern clip") because - I'd hope - a pattern sequencer would allow different lengths per note lane, different playback speed & playback direction, etc.SLiC wrote: Fri Apr 16, 2021 8:13 amIf they go midi grid, I would expect some modules like various sorts of step sequencer would be included. That said, a fully integrated 'step sequencer layout' as an edit type (piano roll or step) would also work well!
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- KVRian
- 763 posts since 26 Sep, 2007
The often overlooked killer feature of FL Studio's step sequencer is the way it's integrated with the sampler (or other instruments). There's no "middle man" (assigning midi keys to a lane) in its step sequencer – you drag a sample into the sequencer and get a new lane for it, or replace the current one. It feels incredibly immediate and is one of the reasons for why FL is so easy to get into for beginners despite its otherwise disjointed structure.
I don't expect this approach to make it into Bitwig (e.g. by integrating a new Step Sequencer view with the Drum Grid), but I can't say I wouldn't be over the moon if it did.
I don't expect this approach to make it into Bitwig (e.g. by integrating a new Step Sequencer view with the Drum Grid), but I can't say I wouldn't be over the moon if it did.
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- KVRAF
- 5144 posts since 3 Oct, 2013
^^^ although Sampler in Grid is far more powerful
ps. sequencers, there are some awesome sequenced modulation in https://www.bitwig.com/stories/space-time-and-color-13/ beside the different reverbs
ps2.
found so the reverbs so
ps. sequencers, there are some awesome sequenced modulation in https://www.bitwig.com/stories/space-time-and-color-13/ beside the different reverbs
ps2.
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- KVRist
- 158 posts since 1 Oct, 2020
need to touch not the mouse, (just dunno...), why not..
"3rd type......" AHAAA..
but somes say it's restrictive in genre/style of music... but curious..
"3rd type......" AHAAA..
but somes say it's restrictive in genre/style of music... but curious..
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- KVRist
- 158 posts since 1 Oct, 2020
im sry to be STUPID like an half-old guy... that passed his life almost on computers...
i will change nothing LOL
but when i got Cakewalk 1 lite with a EMu sampler, it was not a synth... there was the Quasimidi RAVEN just aside but price was so expensive lol.
I dont want anymore talking DAW tricks, i just need notes ON (off...), and #cc ... just sayin.. (edit: + 1/2 lfo mod lol... but that's all.)******
edit: i have no talent, im the opposite of a want-to-be-a-star.. just i would like to do PLAY at home like ina studio... some stuffs like what people like Deadmau5, daft punk or The Chemical Brothers do . & i have not the balls to handle more than 200-300 person.. overthat it's too complicated for me & i dont want to make it my job. TOO MUCH STRESS... + some population needs.... no. If one day i make a family, i would like to stop being egoist/or sharing too much... i'll be postman or security in supermarket... but not clean toilets, & not addict to a NEXT release.
******i dont want to use my brain (anymore). i want simple music only : it's not always good lol... it needs training.
(edit: i think im really antisocial, or non-conformist,... if i could be anarchist ? im pretty sure i will be lol...)
i will change nothing LOL
I dont want anymore talking DAW tricks, i just need notes ON (off...), and #cc ... just sayin.. (edit: + 1/2 lfo mod lol... but that's all.)******
edit: i have no talent, im the opposite of a want-to-be-a-star.. just i would like to do PLAY at home like ina studio... some stuffs like what people like Deadmau5, daft punk or The Chemical Brothers do . & i have not the balls to handle more than 200-300 person.. overthat it's too complicated for me & i dont want to make it my job. TOO MUCH STRESS... + some population needs.... no. If one day i make a family, i would like to stop being egoist/or sharing too much... i'll be postman or security in supermarket... but not clean toilets, & not addict to a NEXT release.
******i dont want to use my brain (anymore). i want simple music only : it's not always good lol... it needs training.
(edit: i think im really antisocial, or non-conformist,... if i could be anarchist ? im pretty sure i will be lol...)
- KVRian
- 531 posts since 11 Apr, 2019 from UK
You got plenty of choice out there, if you don't like writing beats in the piano roll use a VST instrument for it, there are 2 in FLStudio or you can take a look at the list on https://soundoracle.net/blogs/soundorac ... orld-today1378919320102020 wrote: Fri Apr 16, 2021 9:40 am im sry to be STUPID like an half-old guy... that passed his life almost on computers...
Nerve
has a simple interface and is piss easy to use...
Web Developer by day, DAW tinkerer by night...
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- KVRist
- 316 posts since 18 Sep, 2020
Equally impressive are both the sound of those reverbs and the fact that they easily take up half of his available CPU. Is that considered practical?
Sampler video was nice.
- KVRAF
- 3821 posts since 20 Apr, 2005
I gotta disagree with this. I think many people just want a step or sequence, that can simply be triggered from a normal sequencer note.antic604 wrote: Fri Apr 16, 2021 8:35 amThat would however require new type of clip ("pattern clip") because - I'd hope - a pattern sequencer would allow different lengths per note lane, different playback speed & playback direction, etc.SLiC wrote: Fri Apr 16, 2021 8:13 amIf they go midi grid, I would expect some modules like various sorts of step sequencer would be included. That said, a fully integrated 'step sequencer layout' as an edit type (piano roll or step) would also work well!
For me at least, I'd see this more along the lines of a programmable arp.
Per note loop lengths... Well, that is more of a drum/sampler if you ask me, or could be driven with multiple sequences... I'd see this as more x0x based, than note sequence thing.
- Banned
- 11467 posts since 4 Jan, 2017 from Warsaw, Poland
I was thinking along the lines of something built into a DAW, depending on its native features and that can't be achieved via VST. There's dozens of VSTs that do what you want. Only Bitiwg could add a pattern sequencer and respective pattern clips, because that's a DAW-level stuff. Have you ever used pattern lanes in Reason or Studio One (I'm sure there are others, too)?_leras wrote: Sat Apr 17, 2021 10:01 amI gotta disagree with this. I think many people just want a step or sequence, that can simply be triggered from a normal sequencer note.antic604 wrote: Fri Apr 16, 2021 8:35 amThat would however require new type of clip ("pattern clip") because - I'd hope - a pattern sequencer would allow different lengths per note lane, different playback speed & playback direction, etc.SLiC wrote: Fri Apr 16, 2021 8:13 amIf they go midi grid, I would expect some modules like various sorts of step sequencer would be included. That said, a fully integrated 'step sequencer layout' as an edit type (piano roll or step) would also work well!
For me at least, I'd see this more along the lines of a programmable arp.
Per note loop lengths... Well, that is more of a drum/sampler if you ask me, or could be driven with multiple sequences... I'd see this as more x0x based, than note sequence thing.
Also, variable lane lengths, resolutions & playback direction aren't only for drums. That works awesomely for basslines, even melodies. Generative music is huge.

