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personally, i really dislike piano rolls for midi/drum sequencing. my pipe dream addition would be different methods of sequencing in clips, like dedicated and feature-full step sequencer, tracker sequencer in the vein of renoise's redux, and of course a midi grid alongside custom interface building

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Step sequencer tracks, like Cakewalk for example, is sorely missing.

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T71 wrote: Fri Apr 16, 2021 5:46 am Step sequencer tracks, like Cakewalk for example, is sorely missing.

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Cakewalk 1 Lite <3 ........

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datamask wrote: Thu Apr 15, 2021 9:44 pm personally, i really dislike piano rolls for midi/drum sequencing. my pipe dream addition would be different methods of sequencing in clips, like dedicated and feature-full step sequencer, tracker sequencer in the vein of renoise's redux, and of course a midi grid alongside custom interface building
FL studio ui for beatboxes finally not that bad, or TB-303 + swing/groove..

(im fighting alone for the lost of a skinable UI devs will never give us....)

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absence of sequencers, IMO it's a slight inspiration/push to use Grid :D
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If they go midi grid, I would expect some modules like various sorts of step sequencer would be included.
That said, a fully integrated 'step sequencer layout' as an edit type (piano roll or step) would also work well!
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SLiC wrote: Fri Apr 16, 2021 8:13 amIf they go midi grid, I would expect some modules like various sorts of step sequencer would be included. That said, a fully integrated 'step sequencer layout' as an edit type (piano roll or step) would also work well!
That would however require new type of clip ("pattern clip") because - I'd hope - a pattern sequencer would allow different lengths per note lane, different playback speed & playback direction, etc.
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The often overlooked killer feature of FL Studio's step sequencer is the way it's integrated with the sampler (or other instruments). There's no "middle man" (assigning midi keys to a lane) in its step sequencer – you drag a sample into the sequencer and get a new lane for it, or replace the current one. It feels incredibly immediate and is one of the reasons for why FL is so easy to get into for beginners despite its otherwise disjointed structure.

I don't expect this approach to make it into Bitwig (e.g. by integrating a new Step Sequencer view with the Drum Grid), but I can't say I wouldn't be over the moon if it did. 😅

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^^^ although Sampler in Grid is far more powerful


ps. sequencers, there are some awesome sequenced modulation in https://www.bitwig.com/stories/space-time-and-color-13/ beside the different reverbs
ps2. :) found so the reverbs so
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need to touch not the mouse, (just dunno...), why not..



"3rd type......" AHAAA..

but somes say it's restrictive in genre/style of music... but curious..

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im sry to be STUPID like an half-old guy... that passed his life almost on computers...

i will change nothing LOL :D but when i got Cakewalk 1 lite with a EMu sampler, it was not a synth... there was the Quasimidi RAVEN just aside but price was so expensive lol.

I dont want anymore talking DAW tricks, i just need notes ON (off...), and #cc ... just sayin.. (edit: + 1/2 lfo mod lol... but that's all.)******

edit: i have no talent, im the opposite of a want-to-be-a-star.. just i would like to do PLAY at home like ina studio... some stuffs like what people like Deadmau5, daft punk or The Chemical Brothers do . & i have not the balls to handle more than 200-300 person.. overthat it's too complicated for me & i dont want to make it my job. TOO MUCH STRESS... + some population needs.... no. If one day i make a family, i would like to stop being egoist/or sharing too much... i'll be postman or security in supermarket... but not clean toilets, & not addict to a NEXT release.

******i dont want to use my brain (anymore). i want simple music only : it's not always good lol... it needs training.

(edit: i think im really antisocial, or non-conformist,... if i could be anarchist ? im pretty sure i will be lol...)

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1378919320102020 wrote: Fri Apr 16, 2021 9:40 am im sry to be STUPID like an half-old guy... that passed his life almost on computers...
You got plenty of choice out there, if you don't like writing beats in the piano roll use a VST instrument for it, there are 2 in FLStudio or you can take a look at the list on https://soundoracle.net/blogs/soundorac ... orld-today

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xbitz wrote: Fri Apr 16, 2021 9:05 am ps2. :) found so the reverbs so
Equally impressive are both the sound of those reverbs and the fact that they easily take up half of his available CPU. Is that considered practical?

Sampler video was nice. :)

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antic604 wrote: Fri Apr 16, 2021 8:35 am
SLiC wrote: Fri Apr 16, 2021 8:13 amIf they go midi grid, I would expect some modules like various sorts of step sequencer would be included. That said, a fully integrated 'step sequencer layout' as an edit type (piano roll or step) would also work well!
That would however require new type of clip ("pattern clip") because - I'd hope - a pattern sequencer would allow different lengths per note lane, different playback speed & playback direction, etc.
I gotta disagree with this. I think many people just want a step or sequence, that can simply be triggered from a normal sequencer note.

For me at least, I'd see this more along the lines of a programmable arp.

Per note loop lengths... Well, that is more of a drum/sampler if you ask me, or could be driven with multiple sequences... I'd see this as more x0x based, than note sequence thing.

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_leras wrote: Sat Apr 17, 2021 10:01 am
antic604 wrote: Fri Apr 16, 2021 8:35 am
SLiC wrote: Fri Apr 16, 2021 8:13 amIf they go midi grid, I would expect some modules like various sorts of step sequencer would be included. That said, a fully integrated 'step sequencer layout' as an edit type (piano roll or step) would also work well!
That would however require new type of clip ("pattern clip") because - I'd hope - a pattern sequencer would allow different lengths per note lane, different playback speed & playback direction, etc.
I gotta disagree with this. I think many people just want a step or sequence, that can simply be triggered from a normal sequencer note.

For me at least, I'd see this more along the lines of a programmable arp.

Per note loop lengths... Well, that is more of a drum/sampler if you ask me, or could be driven with multiple sequences... I'd see this as more x0x based, than note sequence thing.
I was thinking along the lines of something built into a DAW, depending on its native features and that can't be achieved via VST. There's dozens of VSTs that do what you want. Only Bitiwg could add a pattern sequencer and respective pattern clips, because that's a DAW-level stuff. Have you ever used pattern lanes in Reason or Studio One (I'm sure there are others, too)?

Also, variable lane lengths, resolutions & playback direction aren't only for drums. That works awesomely for basslines, even melodies. Generative music is huge.
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