KVR Audio

zvenx · Post by **zvenx** » Mon Jan 10, 2022 5:46 pm

cb8rwh wrote: Mon Jan 10, 2022 5:44 pm
chk071 wrote: Mon Jan 10, 2022 4:18 pm
cb8rwh wrote: Mon Jan 10, 2022 2:33 pm
Introspective wrote: Mon Jan 10, 2022 12:25 pm I'd still love to see someone do the "Everything in Its Right Place" sound in Pigments. It should be simple, right?

Here's an attempt - one is the non-dynamic Repro5 preset, the other is Pigments
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ERHB88 ... sp=sharing
Maybe try something more analog sounding? That's a simple e-piano sound which even every freeware can do in the same quality.
I only did that one as someone suggested an exact preset to copy.

Pigments was the first of the 2 examples

Interesting.
It definitely sounded better in this context.
rsp

zvenx · Post by **zvenx** » Mon Jan 10, 2022 6:02 pm

Would you be willing to upload the presets involved or at least show screenshots of the presets?
rsp

kobal · Post by **kobal** » Mon Jan 10, 2022 6:07 pm

" pigment is not thin , you can stack many oscillators "

i don t know the synth but sentence like this really mean it s thin to me

but it s not bad it s exaclty as good as phat ..wihtout thin sound nothing is phat i mean audio is all about contrast to accentuate things.

cb8rwh · Post by **cb8rwh** » Mon Jan 10, 2022 6:13 pm

zvenx wrote: Mon Jan 10, 2022 6:02 pm Would you be willing to upload the presets involved or at least show screenshots of the presets?
rsp

Yeah no worries - this is the Pigments preset - https://drive.google.com/file/d/1TzmOwi ... sp=sharing

The Repro5 preset is a factory one called TUC In Its Right Place

zvenx · Post by **zvenx** » Mon Jan 10, 2022 6:37 pm

Thanks
rsp

chagzuki · Post by **chagzuki** » Mon Jan 10, 2022 7:00 pm

Goes to show how much liveliness comes simply from the drift between the two engines/oscillators, plus the mini filter.

zvenx · Post by **zvenx** » Mon Jan 10, 2022 7:21 pm

I of course tried it with the two patches....(yes I know the meter is wrong and I don't quite remember the riff, played it from memory).... but I played 8 bars of it in one and copied the midi to another.
Strangely the Repro5 versions sounds better to me on my system...

(as usual with dropbox and kvr, either download the audio file or open it in a new tab)

https://www.dropbox.com/s/v2qdm6q1cus1r ... n.mp3?dl=0
rsp

zvenx · Post by **zvenx** » Mon Jan 10, 2022 7:49 pm

(and for completeness.... here is the 24bit wave version of it, the cubase project and a screen shot of the levels.. I boosted by 1db so that its maximum level more matched A).

https://www.dropbox.com/s/xkzn4n9612s6g ... n.wav?dl=0

https://www.dropbox.com/s/87dvbh3afej47 ... n.cpr?dl=0

rsp

tactile_coast · Post by **tactile_coast** » Mon Jan 10, 2022 7:58 pm

The original comparison sounds the same on my system, with Pigments the stronger which surprised me as Id never really considered it be a contender for proper analog emulation, more a synth for modern sounds. I'm not sure what its supposed to prove though?

Also this link will go quite some way to help explain some of the somewhat unusual twists/turns and leaps of logic in this thread https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confirmation_bias

zvenx · Post by **zvenx** » Mon Jan 10, 2022 8:12 pm

When you say 'sounds the same on your system', what do you mean?
My order may or may not be the same order as the original comparison.
rsp

Introspective · Post by **Introspective** » Mon Jan 10, 2022 8:23 pm

cb8rwh wrote: Mon Jan 10, 2022 5:44 pm I only did that one as someone suggested an exact preset to copy.

Pigments was the first of the 2 examples

Indeed, I suggested it. Kudos, it's a very good patch. I bow to your skills.

Now--honestly--did it come easily in Pigments? I'll believe you if you say "yes," but I'd like to hear you say it.

BTW: I really do commend you on rising to the challenge. I appreciate it, and I obviously stand corrected: it's possible to make that sound with Pigments. I fall on my proverbial sword! This lends more support to the "synths don't have as much character as people attribute to them" argument. ...though I admit, my position on that broader question only moves a little with this evidence. ...it still moved. Thanks for doing it. Δ

cb8rwh · Post by **cb8rwh** » Mon Jan 10, 2022 9:45 pm

Haha, it was only reasonably easy because you gave me a preset to copy. I turned off the FX in Repro5 then got the OSCs to be as close as possible, then moved onto the FX. The FX were actually the harder part. I actually tweaked the preset a little after hearing the song midi played by both synths.

zvenx · Post by **zvenx** » Mon Jan 10, 2022 9:57 pm

Can you tell which is which on my upload above?
rsp

Introspective · Post by **Introspective** » Mon Jan 10, 2022 10:26 pm

cb8rwh wrote: Mon Jan 10, 2022 9:45 pm Haha, it was only reasonably easy because you gave me a preset to copy. I turned off the FX in Repro5 then got the OSCs to be as close as possible, then moved onto the FX. The FX were actually the harder part. I actually tweaked the preset a little after hearing the song midi played by both synths.

Fair. Well, it's very nice work, regardless. Color me impressed.

cb8rwh · Post by **cb8rwh** » Mon Jan 10, 2022 11:10 pm

zvenx wrote: Mon Jan 10, 2022 9:57 pm Can you tell which is which on my upload above?
rsp

The second half seems a little more middy. I think Pigments is the second half - I think I prefer the first whichever it is

Pigments 3.5 vs Dune 3.5