Cubase 15?

[concealed identity]

Is there an easy way in Cubase to apply an effect to only part of the frequency spectrum? I think that is something that would be cool to see in a future version (I think I've heard people say this is really easy in Bitwig?). This was a regular part of my flow when I used Reason many years ago, but I don't do it as often in Cubase- usually using a bunch of sends/extra channels and filters. I feel like there's probably a more intuitive way already, but it would be cool to have something built into the interface to do this easily, or an insert that could split the frequency and load other plugins (I know Waves had a plugin like this, but every time they updated it, it got worse).

waves studioverse and i believe its free iirc has both multiband split and parallel split. can set each split up as mid, side, left, and right channels in addition.

Thanks for the tip! I actually used to use this a while back, and then they updated it (I think it was when they changed from Studio Rack to Studioverse) and I liked it significantly less. It was clunkier, more difficult to use, full of "ads" to try and push their custom plugin chains using Waves plugins, etc.

I should probably give it another try now that it's been a while, but that update really turned me off. I would love to just have this as a part of Cubase itself, but we can't have everything we want, can we?

[qtheerearranger]

yeah a rack system with transient and tonal split, frequency split, and signal split is the main feature I want. Then real MPE and stop pushing note expression on ppl. thats really all that i feel cubase is missing personally.

yeah the waves studio verse pushes stuff on u still but u can hide them now but i think u cant have it hidden on default.

[qtheerearranger]

Yeah, the most buggiest software I've ever had. I even lost the track on how many bugs and quality issues it has. It cannot even render in place correctly. And Cubase support is non-existent.

any chance u can elaborate on this? just kinda want to know about it to look out for it in my own projects.

edit: asking about the render bug

[Igro]

Yeah, the most buggiest software I've ever had. I even lost the track on how many bugs and quality issues it has. It cannot even render in place correctly. And Cubase support is non-existent.

any chance u can elaborate on this? just kinda want to know about it to look out for it in my own projects.

edit: asking about the render bug

Hi. Look here for my "GrooveAgent null test" project:
https://forums.steinberg.net/t/rendered ... 1016548/19

Now, this is not a render problem, but VST instruments problem. They not perfectly synchronized to the tempo (midi). You can try yourself. Just import a good short kick (that fits a beat) into the Groove Agents. Make it 2 bars long, but give every kick its own midi part. Render in place to another track (in render option choose "render as separate events). Then phase invert one of them. Then play and keep looping that 2 bars. You will hear the burst, pops and so on. The longer you play, the worse it goes.

And if initially some forum userssaid that is expected so with a synth, then I used the GrooveAgent, which is a sampler. Same problem.

[mothra]

And Cubase support is non-existent.

Have you actually contacted support and opened a ticket, or are you referring to the post you made on the Steinberg forums 2 days ago (which are user forums, NOT official support forums, and tech support does not monitor or post there).

[Igro]

And Cubase support is non-existent.

Have you actually contacted support and opened a ticket, or are you referring to the post you made on the Steinberg forums 2 days ago (which are user forums, NOT official support forums, and tech support does not monitor or post there).

Yeah, I contacted them 25 days ago. Two tickets already. They don't answer. There must be so many bugs with C15, so audio quality issues are not with the highest priority.

[heliacal]

I would take a clip launcher to replace the extremely linear Arranger track as well. Past that Cubase needs nothing.

[qtheerearranger]

cubase 15.0.6 is out this morning

Stability
We have improved stability in the following areas:

when working with Dolby Atmos.
when opening the HUB on startup.
when loading projects with missing plug-ins.
We have improved the following features and functionality:
We have resolved an issue that could cause inconsistencies when applying Attack Compensation in Expression Map articulations. If you entered Attack Compensation values in Cubase 15.0.5, please take a moment to review them again after the update.
We have resolved an issue where MIDI Remote scripts of legacy Nektar MIDI controllers were not loaded properly.
Graphic performance for zooming and scrolling on macOS Tahoe has been improved.
We have resolved an issue where audio waveforms were unnecessarily recalculated.

[Alexander_D]

cubase 15.0.6 is out this morning

Stability
We have improved stability in the following areas:

when working with Dolby Atmos.
when opening the HUB on startup.
when loading projects with missing plug-ins.
We have improved the following features and functionality:
We have resolved an issue that could cause inconsistencies when applying Attack Compensation in Expression Map articulations. If you entered Attack Compensation values in Cubase 15.0.5, please take a moment to review them again after the update.
We have resolved an issue where MIDI Remote scripts of legacy Nektar MIDI controllers were not loaded properly.
Graphic performance for zooming and scrolling on macOS Tahoe has been improved.
We have resolved an issue where audio waveforms were unnecessarily recalculated.

Hmm. I think that this bug is still here:
We have resolved an issue where audio waveforms were unnecessarily recalculated.

[Igro]

And Cubase support is non-existent.

Have you actually contacted support and opened a ticket, or are you referring to the post you made on the Steinberg forums 2 days ago (which are user forums, NOT official support forums, and tech support does not monitor or post there).

Finally, the Steinberg support answered to this. And yeah, I was right, the issue was real:

“We have reviewed the behavior together with the development team.
The developers were already aware of this behavior, and your tests confirm the current internal understanding.
More specifically:

during playback, a minimal jitter of approximately 1–2 samples may occur;

the file generated via Render in Place / Export can be delayed by 1 sample compared to HALion Sonic 7 and Groove Agent 6 SE playback;

if you move the rendered file 1–2 samples earlier and perform a null test (phase inversion), the signal becomes silent.

This behavior is related to the architecture of the audio engine and its internal rendering process. Since the effect can only be detected through a null test and is not perceptible in a real-world or musical listening context, a corrective intervention is currently not considered appropriate.”

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P.S: There are other audio quality issues I found since I started using Cubase (what a surprise, as it is usually considered as very very professional DAW), but I see it is not that important for Steinberg anyway. Will continue in Bitwig, as it has a way better audio engine. Though I preferred the Cubase workflow more than the Bitwig’s one.

[Grumbleweed]

Having tried the stem splitter option I have to say it was pretty poor. I resorted to using Dropbox to get the audio into my iPad and used Logic to get more stems at better quality.
Hopefully Cubase will spend some time and love on this feature as it can be useful (and the workaround is a faff).

Grum.

[qtheerearranger]

the issue is they have the feature working in spectra layers (stem seperation that is) it just takes a lot more time to seperate stuff then what cubase does. Cubase does it worse but it also does it quicker. they have a better option and they are like if its important to you pay us. but the truth is they should both be tools in cubase.

steinbergs obsession with having plugins that dont make it from nuendo to cubase simple things such as post filter - why would you keep this from customers at this point? would nuendo users really stop using nuendo over post filter being in cubase? no they love the REAL post features you have in nuendo.

[jrwaltb]

And Cubase support is non-existent.

Have you actually contacted support and opened a ticket, or are you referring to the post you made on the Steinberg forums 2 days ago (which are user forums, NOT official support forums, and tech support does not monitor or post there).

Finally, the Steinberg support answered to this. And yeah, I was right, the issue was real:

“We have reviewed the behavior together with the development team.
The developers were already aware of this behavior, and your tests confirm the current internal understanding.
More specifically:

during playback, a minimal jitter of approximately 1–2 samples may occur;

the file generated via Render in Place / Export can be delayed by 1 sample compared to HALion Sonic 7 and Groove Agent 6 SE playback;

if you move the rendered file 1–2 samples earlier and perform a null test (phase inversion), the signal becomes silent.

This behavior is related to the architecture of the audio engine and its internal rendering process. Since the effect can only be detected through a null test and is not perceptible in a real-world or musical listening context, a corrective intervention is currently not considered appropriate.”

---

P.S: There are other audio quality issues I found since I started using Cubase (what a surprise, as it is usually considered as very very professional DAW), but I see it is not that important for Steinberg anyway. Will continue in Bitwig, as it has a way better audio engine. Though I preferred the Cubase workflow more than the Bitwig’s one.

whoa!

[xbitz]

Is there an easy way in Cubase to apply an effect to only part of the frequency spectrum? I think that is something that would be cool to see in a future version (I think I've heard people say this is really easy in Bitwig?). This was a regular part of my flow when I used Reason many years ago, but I don't do it as often in Cubase- usually using a bunch of sends/extra channels and filters. I feel like there's probably a more intuitive way already, but it would be cool to have something built into the interface to do this easily, or an insert that could split the frequency and load other plugins (I know Waves had a plugin like this, but every time they updated it, it got worse).

waves studioverse and i believe its free iirc has both multiband split and parallel split. can set each split up as mid, side, left, and right channels in addition.

^^^ multiband separation, KHS Multipass is a handy too

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[Igro]

Is there an easy way in Cubase to apply an effect to only part of the frequency spectrum? I think that is something that would be cool to see in a future version (I think I've heard people say this is really easy in Bitwig?). This was a regular part of my flow when I used Reason many years ago, but I don't do it as often in Cubase- usually using a bunch of sends/extra channels and filters. I feel like there's probably a more intuitive way already, but it would be cool to have something built into the interface to do this easily, or an insert that could split the frequency and load other plugins (I know Waves had a plugin like this, but every time they updated it, it got worse).

waves studioverse and i believe its free iirc has both multiband split and parallel split. can set each split up as mid, side, left, and right channels in addition.

^^^ multiband separation, KHS Multipass is a handy too

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Both don't have linear-phase crossovers though. FL-Studio beats them all with their multiband separator.