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tomg wrote:...
I own T2. I gave Mackie my cash they gave me nothing.
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Man, that stinks. I would contact mackie support and let them know that they never sent you your copy of Tracktion 2. If you never recieved your product then they should at least give you a reimbursement. :-o
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sorry thread too fast.

Compression on the way in does NOT make any difference once you are already in the digital domain. Of course if you want to use compression *in the analog domain* before the signal gets to your converters, you may well gain something. Of course that has NOTHING to do with Tracktion (or any other host). Once your audio has been digitized there is NOTHING to be gained by any desructive digital process before it comes in to your edit.

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tomg wrote: I own T2. I gave Mackie my cash they gave me nothing. I think they are going in the wrong direction and said so. If you don't want to listen to people complain about stuff they bought and shit they don't like about it, KVR is the wrong place for you my friend.
No one minds that you are unhappy, they just object to being told that they *have* to be unhappy too. Obviously they must be, otherwise they'd just be Acid kiddies right? And no-one over the age of 12 would ever use Acid, right?

Do you see why you might have gotten peoples backs up?
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Beno wrote: - New mute individual clips
- Controllers and Notes in Midi Editor can now be resized
Some small things I'm perhaps unreasonably happy about. :)



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I'm happy with what I see, automation following clips and folder tracks are pretty much enough to get me excited.

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semiquaver wrote:Tomg: Put your clean guitar into Tracktion - put the effects after the track - enable end to end and youre there.

The advantage to this arrangement is that *you can tweak the effects afterwards if they're not right*. Then you can render the track to a new track and mute your original track to save processing power. Later during mixdown you can still change your mind, return to the original track, and change the effects and rerender.

What would you gain from an using an effect on the way in?
semiquaver wrote:sorry thread too fast.

Compression on the way in does NOT make any difference once you are already in the digital domain. Of course if you want to use compression *in the analog domain* before the signal gets to your converters, you may well gain something. Of course that has NOTHING to do with Tracktion (or any other host). Once your audio has been digitized there is NOTHING to be gained by any desructive digital process before it comes in to your edit.

this is nuclear physics for tomg :hihi:
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pHz wrote:if you want compression on input it needs to be BEFORE it hits the a/d converters on your soundcard surely ???

slainte :shrug: rob
maybe...i guess i look at it as if i compress several things on input (destructivly) i don't have to later, my levels are "hot", i can adjust for any delays, and forget about it..this is after checking levels and shit...my problem is im usually using the L1 w/ Waves card on my Yammy mixer, i'm fooling myself into thinking it is a "real" compressor... but that's agood thing! less resources latter...tomg can use any guit thingy he uses live and simply record it on input, that was my point...T2 don't give a shit...


your point is well taken though :wink:
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Ben--can we get an example or two of the timestretch in action?

Tom

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tomg wrote:
chico.co.uk wrote:The thing NOT to do is find the tool that works for you, then go on a forum about a tool that doesn't work for you, and complain that it doesn't work for you, and why don't they change it so it's more like the other thing you've found that works for you, that already exists, that you already own, that you could be using to do the things you need to do.

Because that is known as "completely f**king pointless".
I'm amazed how many people miss the above.
I own T2. I gave Mackie my cash they gave me nothing.
nothing but a full featured DAW for chump change.....
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chico.co.uk wrote:Oh, i'm not your friend, you have me confused with someone who gives a f**k. I just thought i'd point out that it's only your life you're wasting, but it's yours to waste, so feel free.

However, I can hear the world's smallest violin playing only for you, right now
Ok, so you don't want to be my friend and don't give a f**k. Well I don't give a f**k that you don't give a f**k. You should work for Mackie, they don't give a f**k about me either.

I hope you feel good about your investment 'cause once they get your cash they won't give a f**k about you either. No need to cry for me. eXT is almost everthing I want and it makes T2 look that much worse. You might have a little sympathy for the folks that are buying into this facade though. It looks great but the foundation is bad so they slap a coat of paint on it, put a bird bath in the front yard and raise the price. The world has lot's of suckers and that's a good thing for companys like Mackie.

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valley wrote:
Chuck E. Jesus wrote:
semiquaver wrote:tomg: why would you want to insert a filter *before* a track?? in other words why edit an input stream destrucively when you can do the exact same thing non-destructively with a filter after the data??
what about compression or slight eq while recording?
again, why the hell would you want to do such a thing destructively?

Compression *before* it hits your audio device is one thing; it's a poor solution for avoiding clipping in a recording, but sometimes it's a necessary evil. Once the recording has reached tracktion though, doing anythign to the signal before it is recorded is just shooting yourself in the foot.

What if tomorrow you realise the 'slight eq' was not to slight after all?
god, i'm getting hit by the f**king greek chorus here.....
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tomg wrote:You should work for Mackie, they don't give a f**k about me either.
NO relatively large company you own software (or other consumer product) by gives a f**k about you as an individual ... when there are emough 'yous' to become a noticeable part of their target market THEN you might become important to them in some way ...

slainte :shrug: rob

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Chuck E. Jesus wrote:
valley wrote:
Chuck E. Jesus wrote:
semiquaver wrote:tomg: why would you want to insert a filter *before* a track?? in other words why edit an input stream destrucively when you can do the exact same thing non-destructively with a filter after the data??
what about compression or slight eq while recording?
again, why the hell would you want to do such a thing destructively?

Compression *before* it hits your audio device is one thing; it's a poor solution for avoiding clipping in a recording, but sometimes it's a necessary evil. Once the recording has reached tracktion though, doing anythign to the signal before it is recorded is just shooting yourself in the foot.

What if tomorrow you realise the 'slight eq' was not to slight after all?
god, i'm getting hit by the f**king greek chorus here.....
:x what's wrong with our chorus :hihi:
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I know they care about me. I posted here once saying "please Mackie, please don't kill my cat!" And you know what, my cat is still alive.

I feel so loved. :hug:
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zeoy wrote: this is nuclear physics for tomg :hihi:
Cute. I'm surprised you could spell nuclear :wink: How's that for a personal attack cleverly disgused as humor.

I have real problems with T2 and I said so. It's allowed and it may save somebody else money and hassle. You can carry on with your fanboy thread now.

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