THIS. Imperfections bring soul back to music, at least in my opinion. Everything is too damn perfect nowadays. Noise, wow&flutter and all that shizz ftw!xx JPRacer xx wrote:Maybe it's nostalgia, but I think I just don't like thing when they sound too pure. Of course that depend on the type of sound/song/music, but for some things I really prefer that imperfection. Now I understand what my father was saying.
TB ReelBus - thoughts?
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penguinfromdeep penguinfromdeep https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=193898
- KVRAF
- 1993 posts since 18 Nov, 2008
circuit modeling and 0-dfb filters are cool
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Aroused by JarJar Aroused by JarJar https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=191505
- KVRian
- 1048 posts since 16 Oct, 2008
I remember the days before digital very well. Give me acoustic and digital over "analog" any day.
That being said, here's my opinion on TB Reel. Let's say you're using Reel and you're some young person has never had experience with tape, or some somewhat older person such as myself coming from the acoustic world and very familiar with both analog and digital world but doesn't really have a horse in the race as far as "vintage" or "warm" or whatever. That is, take the plugin as a digital effect- which is what is literally is.
I've been checking out the demo- tape shmape, it could be a very useful effect for, say, crumbling sharp transients rather than limiting them, and it can have a subtle but significant effect in a chain of stuff intended to bolster stereo imagery. I think it is an excellent plugin. I think people who want their sounds to sound like they were recorded to analog tape should record to analog tape, it's not f**king rocket science, we did it as drugged teenagers, jezus.
That being said, here's my opinion on TB Reel. Let's say you're using Reel and you're some young person has never had experience with tape, or some somewhat older person such as myself coming from the acoustic world and very familiar with both analog and digital world but doesn't really have a horse in the race as far as "vintage" or "warm" or whatever. That is, take the plugin as a digital effect- which is what is literally is.
I've been checking out the demo- tape shmape, it could be a very useful effect for, say, crumbling sharp transients rather than limiting them, and it can have a subtle but significant effect in a chain of stuff intended to bolster stereo imagery. I think it is an excellent plugin. I think people who want their sounds to sound like they were recorded to analog tape should record to analog tape, it's not f**king rocket science, we did it as drugged teenagers, jezus.
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- KVRAF
- 4265 posts since 21 Oct, 2001 from my bolthole in the south pacific
Early CDs (esp early 80s) were pretty crap. In theory, they were 16 bit audio with 96 dB dynamic range but the digital master was usually made by playing the analog master tape (or some nth generation dub of it) into the early 1610 digital mastering machine from Sony. This machine mangled the audio fairly badly (non-linearities galore) and the results were then played back with early consumer CD players which mangled them further - crappy DACs and clock circuitry (jitter) and analog signal chains full of inferior op amps and other components.
From an audiophile point of view, a quality LP pressing played through a good signal chain sounded better. An AB comparison obviously favoured the vinyl. Many significant recordings were re-mastered in the late 80s and 90s with much better results and were marketed - by CBS for example - as "re-mastered" in acknowledgement of the above.
From an audiophile point of view, a quality LP pressing played through a good signal chain sounded better. An AB comparison obviously favoured the vinyl. Many significant recordings were re-mastered in the late 80s and 90s with much better results and were marketed - by CBS for example - as "re-mastered" in acknowledgement of the above.
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- KVRAF
- 3644 posts since 27 Nov, 2003 from beach side australia
I don't really buy into the digital/analog debate nowadays.. All I know is there's a couple of settings on this plugin that make my mix sound better in most cases... So I use it!
- KVRAF
- 19790 posts since 16 Sep, 2001 from Las Vegas,USA
That's a matter of opinion.....an opinion I strongly disagree with......Muddy is the word that comes to mind........"Warmth" = Mud in my book.....FLWrd wrote:It's simple: music from the 50s and 60s sounded better, for some even the music from the 70s was good.
None are so hopelessly enslaved as those who falsely believe they are free. Johann Wolfgang von Goethe
- KVRAF
- 19790 posts since 16 Sep, 2001 from Las Vegas,USA
In my opinion the Soul of Music comes from it's content not the noise tacked on to the recording...but if that's what you like then more power to you....whatever floats your boat. But having lived through those days I'm ...never...going back.....penguinfromdeep wrote: Imperfections bring soul back to music, at least in my opinion. Everything is too damn perfect nowadays. Noise, wow&flutter and all that shizz ftw!
None are so hopelessly enslaved as those who falsely believe they are free. Johann Wolfgang von Goethe
- KVRAF
- 19790 posts since 16 Sep, 2001 from Las Vegas,USA
Which is why I have no desire to do it again........recording to tape that is.......Aroused by JarJar wrote:it's not f**king rocket science, we did it as drugged teenagers, jezus.
For the record I've made no comment on the plugin itself only the concept behind it...if you like it use it...All the JB plugins I own are high quality. I'm sure this one is no different.....if it's possible to be high quality and low fidelity at the same time.
None are so hopelessly enslaved as those who falsely believe they are free. Johann Wolfgang von Goethe
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- KVRist
- 319 posts since 19 Mar, 2004 from vienna
i tested reelbus now the whole day and i must say, this is a keeper.
it is smoothening the transients in my mixes in a very nice way.
my favorite preset is the "swiss-legends" (should be a studer, i guess).
i use a pultec style eq after reelbus, to compensate the small high frequency loss.
this will find it's place in my mastering chain.
www.myspace.com/tombalcony
it is smoothening the transients in my mixes in a very nice way.
my favorite preset is the "swiss-legends" (should be a studer, i guess).
i use a pultec style eq after reelbus, to compensate the small high frequency loss.
this will find it's place in my mastering chain.
www.myspace.com/tombalcony
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- KVRAF
- 6490 posts since 14 Jun, 2004 from Rochester, NY
- KVRAF
- 5536 posts since 26 Apr, 2007 from Noosphere
Seems like you don't understand (or don't want to) what folks are telling you here. Just imagine if violin played without any modulation. Or our voices sounded the same - at the same pitch. Just imagine if the wind in the forest was always a white constant noise.Teksonik wrote:In my opinion the Soul of Music comes from it's content not the noise tacked on to the recording...but if that's what you like then more power to you....whatever floats your boat. But having lived through those days I'm ...never...going back.....penguinfromdeep wrote: Imperfections bring soul back to music, at least in my opinion. Everything is too damn perfect nowadays. Noise, wow&flutter and all that shizz ftw!
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- KVRAF
- 6490 posts since 14 Jun, 2004 from Rochester, NY
We like to make our creations more organic and colored. Tools like this can be artfully used to create something new. In the end, it's the content and not the process. It's the end result that matters.
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- KVRist
- 71 posts since 24 Jan, 2012 from Greece
I'm starting to using it again after a long time.
I noticed that the auto level make up makes it a bit louder that the original.
Wich makes it more difficult for A/B testing.
Is this discussed before here?
I noticed that the auto level make up makes it a bit louder that the original.
Wich makes it more difficult for A/B testing.
Is this discussed before here?
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- KVRist
- 461 posts since 31 Dec, 2010 from Perth
The latest version has an output level control which fixes that issue.
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- KVRer
- 6 posts since 29 Oct, 2007 from Pau
Love it, very usefull. For me, the perfect tool for Drums Bus 
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- Banned
- 22457 posts since 5 Sep, 2001
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