ghettosynth wrote:Except that you didn't. You're projecting meaning onto my words that aren't there. Here's the dictionary definition for you.Russell Grand wrote:Simply calling it what it is.
So now, read that in context, "as a reverb, who cares." Don't confuse yourself in an effort to make yourself feel better for buying weak products. I don't think that this is an "important" reverb and I'm not worried about "not getting it." My choice to talk shit about it doesn't reflect an inner desire to purchase it. That kind of interpretation is something that your mom probably tried on you to manipulate you into doing things her way, only neither of you were smart enough to realize that it's nonsense on its face.used for saying that you do not think something is important and that you are not worried about it
Soundspot Oracle
- KVRAF
- 2772 posts since 22 May, 2017
- KVRAF
- 2772 posts since 22 May, 2017
Oh absolutely, Orilriver is 100 times better than Oracle if one is looking for just a great sounding reverb! I use Orilriver all the time. Cloudseed is another free reverb that runs circles around the reverb on Oracle. As has already been mentioned in this thread: where Oracle shines is in the other bells and whistles. The reverb is good for some sounds but IMO the reverb is actually it's weakest feature. I'm still unsure why Soundspot decided to market it by focusing on the reverb. So yeah, if I'm working in a project and decide to pull up a strong reverb, I'm most likely going to go with Orilriver, Cloudseed 2016 Stereo Room, EOS, or a Valhalla reverb.BRBWaffles wrote: Leaving the ridiculous retail price aside, are there examples of paid reverbs in the ballpark of $13 that perform better? Notwithstanding the fact that I feel that OrilRiver is a stronger reverb and it's free.
As for a reverb in the $13 range: I can't think of any, but yeah there are some free ones that do a beautiful job!
- KVRian
- 807 posts since 7 Aug, 2015 from H2O
Well, that's true, but I do respect and appreciate those who are educated - in any field or specialty. I love to make music, but I'm not that knowledgeable on the inner workings of synths/plugins. Even as to the sound, my ears aren't that discerning, so when I say I must have crappy ears, I'm not being facetious - I do have average ears, so I defer to those who have better ears - and this forum does have experts, and that's why I enjoy learning here. I mean, I can't tell the difference between a solid state amp and tube amp when they're played at "room" volumes - but there are those who can hear the harmonics that apparently are being produced by the tubes.Armagibbon wrote:Nah man peeps got opinions.
Too, I'm not at all looking for another reverb. I've got too many synths and plugins to shake a stick at. I watched the video just do some window shopping, which musicians love to do. I enjoy this field so much and learn something new every day. If I do intend to buy another reverb plugin, I'll look at what's been recommended by those who are knowledgeable - which, of course, I know is simply my opinion of who I defer to, but by watching these threads, you get to know who to trust, or at least who has proven to be correct in my mind.
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- KVRAF
- 2066 posts since 11 Aug, 2012 from omfr morf form romf frmo
It's obvious the discussion isn't so much about the plugin but the developer's practices surrounding it. Bad practices in this industry affect all of us, so regardless of purchase, everyone has a stake in this. Injecting personal digs like that into this discussion isn't necessary.Russell Grand wrote:For disliking something so much that you never even purchased, you've spent a helluva lot of time in this thread.
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- KVRAF
- 4720 posts since 26 Nov, 2015 from Way Downunder
One thing's for sure they have a very capable modern GUI designer - this plugin almost has that Output vibe. Hopefully they develop the reverb sound and reconsider their full retail prices.
- KVRAF
- 44056 posts since 11 Aug, 2008 from clown world
More rave reviews have appeared at Plugin Boutique:
"The Oracle is a fantastic tool! The LFO and effects modules allow you to create dramatic and unique soundscapes in no time at all! This plugin is definitely going into my favourites list!"
Somna . Armada, AVA
"Stunning possibilities with an outstanding interface and visual feedback! The FX section and the built in compressor are amazing and a real time saver!"
Para X. Discover Recordings
This is the same method MJ used when he was working on Anthony Marinelli's Thriller.
- KVRAF
- 5386 posts since 25 Jan, 2014 from The End of The World as We Knowit
I see Oracle has learned from Trump to "hit back" with twice as many adjectives!
However, neither of those rave reviews mention the reverb.
They should call it: Oracle the Amazing Time-Saving Interface!
However, neither of those rave reviews mention the reverb.
They should call it: Oracle the Amazing Time-Saving Interface!
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- KVRAF
- 44056 posts since 11 Aug, 2008 from clown world
Maybe we could make up our own rave reviews.
It looks pretty.
Aloysius . KVR
This is the same method MJ used when he was working on Anthony Marinelli's Thriller.
- KVRAF
- 5386 posts since 25 Jan, 2014 from The End of The World as We Knowit
"Its uniquely simple algorithm creates a stunning reduction in soundscape complexity, so reverberations end in no time at all!!"
Michael L, End of the World
(I see the same few people do all of Soundspot's rave reviews, and plugin boutique reduced the RRP from an outlandish $165 to a merely ridiculous $125)
Michael L, End of the World
(I see the same few people do all of Soundspot's rave reviews, and plugin boutique reduced the RRP from an outlandish $165 to a merely ridiculous $125)
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- KVRian
- 945 posts since 13 Oct, 2006
got the add on my fb,it looks amazing and fun to use but the reviews here are clear.....
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- KVRAF
- 2648 posts since 20 Jun, 2012
Both Waves H-Reverb and Abbey Road Plates have been selling in the 22$ territory and they both blow the Soundspot Oracle out of the water so badly that there's really no comparison.Russell Grand wrote: As for a reverb in the $13 range: I can't think of any, but yeah there are some free ones that do a beautiful job!
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- KVRist
- 137 posts since 22 May, 2017
In its current state, the reverb is worth little more than the $13 they initially asked for. The only reason I purchased it is because the developer had supposedly stated to multiple unsatisfied customers that they will work to improve the algorithm. The plugin has enough potential that I was swayed by that statement. Maybe I'm just a stone cold idiot. Who knows.
- KVRAF
- 2110 posts since 5 Oct, 2015 from Swedish / Living in Hong Kong
I reasoned the same way as you do. I frankly speaking spent way more than $13 on much more useless things in my life to dateBRBWaffles wrote:In its current state, the reverb is worth little more than the $13 they initially asked for. The only reason I purchased it is because the developer had supposedly stated to multiple unsatisfied customers that they will work to improve the algorithm. The plugin has enough potential that I was swayed by that statement. Maybe I'm just a stone cold idiot. Who knows.
Win 10 -64bit, CPU i7-7700K, 32Gb, Focusrite 2i2, FL-studio 20, Studio One 4, Reason 10
