Alternative to Hive

[sfxsound3]

I don't own Sylenth1 because I think it sounds like crap.

It's obviously not me.

How old are you again?

[wagtunes]

I don't own Sylenth1 because I think it sounds like crap.

It's obviously not me.

How old are you again?

I'm turning 60 in November. I've been probably making music long before you were even born.

[wagtunes]

Know what I love about this place? You cannot, and I mean CAN NOT, say anything bad about a synth. Especially one that's been made by a developer who spends quite a bit of time here. You will be raked over the coals and fed to the lions. Doesn't matter if you've purchased all their synths. Doesn't matter if you've spent more money with that company than 90% of the people here. You simply CAN'T say a bad thing. Got a negative opinion? Better keep it to yourself unless you want the wrath of the KVR gods coming down on your head.

I bought the synth. So I have EVERY right to critique it.

If you don't like it, too bad.

How do you like THEM apples?

[stimresp]

I love cheese, but not Danish blue. I've somehow learned to accept it, rather than spend my Saturdays lecturing Danish Blue eaters on the internet.

[Examigan]

You don't have to lie. But you also don't have to be right in what you're saying


That said, FX in Hive are pretty great. And it definitely doesn't sound lifeless, and Howie's presets totally prove that

Well, then it's my ears or my taste or both. All I know is I like the sound of every other U-he synth, which I all own, better than Hive's. Again, maybe it's the target audience they were going for with it.

It's obviously not me.

Did you hear the entries in the KVR OSC for HIVE? There are some great sounding presets in many of those tunes.
https://sites.google.com/site/kvrosc/osc-71-hive

[Examigan]

I bought the synth. So I have EVERY right to critique it.

OK but you didn't have to buy it. You could have just tried the demo.

[wagtunes]

You don't have to lie. But you also don't have to be right in what you're saying


That said, FX in Hive are pretty great. And it definitely doesn't sound lifeless, and Howie's presets totally prove that

Well, then it's my ears or my taste or both. All I know is I like the sound of every other U-he synth, which I all own, better than Hive's. Again, maybe it's the target audience they were going for with it.

It's obviously not me.

Did you hear the entries in the KVR OSC for HIVE? There are some great sounding presets in many of those tunes.
https://sites.google.com/site/kvrosc/osc-71-hive

Here is what I've learned from more than my share of OSCs. Any synth can be made to sound amazing by some of these guys. The post processing, FX, EQ, Compression, automation, and on and on, is what makes those songs sound so great. It's why I've stopped doing the OSCs. I can't compete with these amazingly talented people. But make no mistake about it. It's not JUST the synth. That has been proven time and time again with synths that, dry, sound pretty bad. But if you're a wiz with a set of mixing tools, FX and automation, you can make anything sound amazing. Okay, we're not talking about that. We're talking about a self contained synth with no outside FX, EQ, Compression or anything.

Which proves another point. If you really have talent as a music producer, it doesn't matter what synth you use. You will make your production sound absolutely incredible. I heard guys like Jasinski and Z Prime do it all the time regardless of the synth used. And we're talking usually free synths with very little on board anything.

It's not the synth. It's the user.

Having said that, this user finds some synths easier to get sounds that I like out of than others.

It is what it is.

[wagtunes]

I bought the synth. So I have EVERY right to critique it.

OK but you didn't have to buy it. You could have just tried the demo.

I bought it for business reasons. Not for personal use.

[Hink]

Know what I love about this place? You cannot, and I mean CAN NOT, say anything bad about a synth. Especially one that's been made by a developer who spends quite a bit of time here. You will be raked over the coals and fed to the lions. Doesn't matter if you've purchased all their synths. Doesn't matter if you've spent more money with that company than 90% of the people here. You simply CAN'T say a bad thing. Got a negative opinion? Better keep it to yourself unless you want the wrath of the KVR gods coming down on your head.

I bought the synth. So I have EVERY right to critique it.

If you don't like it, too bad.

How do you like THEM apples?

forgive me wags but if one pops into every thread about a product with their "critiques" it can appear to be more than just critiques. It's surely a different story when the thread title is asking for critiques but in this case that is NOT what the OP is asking for.

So I ask everyone to stay on topic, we dont need pages and pages of whether Hive is good or not. I'm pretty sure we already have that

[wagtunes]

Know what I love about this place? You cannot, and I mean CAN NOT, say anything bad about a synth. Especially one that's been made by a developer who spends quite a bit of time here. You will be raked over the coals and fed to the lions. Doesn't matter if you've purchased all their synths. Doesn't matter if you've spent more money with that company than 90% of the people here. You simply CAN'T say a bad thing. Got a negative opinion? Better keep it to yourself unless you want the wrath of the KVR gods coming down on your head.

I bought the synth. So I have EVERY right to critique it.

If you don't like it, too bad.

How do you like THEM apples?

forgive me wags but if one pops into every thread about a product with their "critiques" it can appear to be more than just critiques. It's surely a different story when the thread title is asking for critiques but in this case that is NOT what the OP is asking for.

So I ask everyone to stay on topic, we dont need pages and pages of whether Hive is good or not. I'm pretty sure we already have that

Sorry Hink, but if you read the OP, he clearly says he didn't like the sound of Hive and some people were getting on him for it. I was just adding that I too didn't like the sound to show that not everybody likes the sound of every synth out there as this is all subjective anyway. But some people get very defensive if you criticize anything around here. I should know better.

Anyway, I'm going to drop it now and get back to the OP.

To the OP, if you don't like the sound of Hive but are looking for something that makes "similar" sounds, these are my suggestions as alternatives.

Spire
Rapid
Dune 2

And with that, I think I've said all I need to say here.

Sorry if I've ruffled any feathers.

[ariston]

Well, you got the attention you obviously needed, so that's okay.

I'd like to throw Strobe 2 into the ring - it's been mentioned, but it's almost like it's a dark horse round these here parts. Great sound, easy interface, amazing modulation, comprehensive FX section. No wooden side panels, though, so it might not sound all that analog to your eyes.

[Examigan]

I'd like to throw Strobe 2 into the ring - it's been mentioned, but it's almost like it's a dark horse round these here parts. Great sound, easy interface, amazing modulation, comprehensive FX section.

+1

[wagtunes]

Strobe 2 is a great sounding synth, but what's with the browser? The fonts are so small I can't read any of the preset names. Can't imagine why they would do that to such a fine sounding synth. Makes it unusable for me, which is a shame.

[Russell Grand]

Yet another thread wag has to make about him...

[wagtunes]

Yet another thread wag has to make about him...

No, you guys made it about me. All I did was give my opinion on a synth and agreeing with the OP.

So now let's drop it like Hink said to.