Arturia V Collection 9 - Official Thread

[LKBorg]

So... first off: not everyone making music defaults to a dude. Crazy fact here:
there are women making music too and we also know how to use the internet (shocking, I know!)

One of us has been here almost 20 years. One has been here several months. You don't need to try to womansplain to me that there are women making music. I know many.

Crazy fact here: I call anyone dude. I know women who do the same. Get over yourself already. Maybe try less outrage for a change.

Oh, someone is playing the age card to put more weight to their argument. Sorry you felt you had to do that.

Maybe, just mbe, think about the fact that you call everyone a dude, coz not calling everyone a dude would be a nice thing, so everyone feels welcome when addressed. And no, you haven't yet seen outrage in your 20yrs here obviously, coz that was pretty calm, and I also don't need to get over myself, thank you very much.

I found a nice note from Slynk and their M4L device just moments ago and it feels fitting:

For a while, during development, this plugin was called "Duck Boy" but I quickly decided to rename it to "Duck Buddy". The music industry is already so male dominated, so I didn't want to give the plugin a male gender, potentially further alienating the women producers out there. It's a small thing but I think subtle things like this push women away from music production and careers within the music industry. And I think we should be doing everything we can to create a comfortable atmosphere for those women looking to get involved in the music industry. This ain't no boys club.

from:
https://slynk.gumroad.com/l/duckbuddy

[LoveEnigma18]

Hey.
The 14 banks are extra banks that come as supplement to the factory libraries.
Each with its own genre.
Cheers

Good to know. Thank you, Edouard.
Sorry, but could you please check a previous post of mine where I have quoted you for some clarification regarding Analog Lab V?

Another member replied and was correct.
Analog Lab doesn't have an instrument view, so there is no button to open the browser, Analog Lab is the browser

Okay, no problem. Will get used to it. Thanks!

[ghettosynth]

Which MPE controller do you guys recommend for CS80 v4?

It really depends on how much you care about "normal keys" (like a CS-80 has).

The Hydrasynth is the only standard keyboard with polyphonic pressure (and a ribbon) in the stores today (actually, the just released Waldorf Iridium is another one, although it costs twice as much).
Hydrasynth Deluxe would be my absolute first choice if I had the space.
Hoping for some new MPE controllers with standard keys being released in the near future.

I have two Sensel Morph, and although they're awesome for XYZ movement and can definitely do awesome stuff with a CS-80 plugin, velocity reponse is far from optimal, and if you have muscle memory for (more or less complex) chord voicings relying on the 1/2 inch raised black keys as tactile points of reference on the sides of your fingers, that goes pretty much out of the window.
A little better with a Seaboard Rise thanks to the overall bigger keys and slightly rised black keys, but still a very different experience from a normal keyboard (which is why the Osmose was designed the way it is).

Some reviews on GS suggest that the keyboard feels cheap.

https://gearspace.com/board/electronic- ... uxe-9.html

This is an annoying quest for me. I do need the physical reference of the black keys, or pads, whatever, so the touchpad replacements aren't a solution. What I really want is just a small poly AT keyboard with a fantastic long-lasting keybed. I really don't want a synthesizer coupled to it, especially not a VA synthesizer.

On the other hand, the deluxe could permanently replace my JX10 which has never been a very good controller. If I'm going to have one large keyboard in my studio then 73/76 keys is the right compromise for me. I have a digital piano, but it gets little use. Also, the JX10 AT isn't poly and feels terrible.

[LoveEnigma18]

I started working on this two weeks ago when I was trying to decide whether the $99USD upgrade price from V Collection 5 -> 8 was worth it, but I've updated it for V Collection 9: Arturia V Collection Version Comparison. It's a work sheet that lists every version of the collection side-by-side and indicates which products were new to a given release ('n') or which older products were grandfathered in from a prior collection ('o'). There's also a short accompanying article on the blog with some random trivia I encountered while researching past versions.

Good job with the worksheet.
I think it is difficult to track preset banks, except big ones like Synthopedia and Patchworks.

And does anyone know if the previous preset banks Synthopedia (800 presets) and Patchworks (700 presets) are also included in V Collection 9? I assume it would only be the case if you had V Collection 7 (Synthopedia), then upgraded to 8 (Patchworks) and then upgraded to 9 (14 new banks). Perhaps someone who did not have VC7/8 earlier and now has VC9 could please check in their owned preset banks (Analog Lab->Store) and let me know?

I would like confirmation on this as well, although I THINK they are not included with new purchases of the new collection. I currently have Synthopedia and Patchworks marked as unknown status in my worksheet. My only evidence that they're not included so far is that the Details page for the collection says there are "14 exclusive sound banks" but if you combine the banks listed on the overview page with PatchWorks and Synthopedia that number would come to 16. They show up as owned in my Analog Lab store tab, but I own V Collection 8, which lists both of them in the ASC.

Yeah, I also think that those 2 packs are only included if you owned V Collection 8. For V Collection 9, there's (only) the new 14 preset banks.

[Atlatnesiti]

Arturia software centre updated all my instruments from v8 to v9 including sq80, pigments and even augmented strings intro, but not to full version.
All in all, whatever is left on the v9 plate doesn’t interest me.
Will wait to see what upcoming v10 will offer before paying $149

[Niowiad]

Which MPE controller do you guys recommend for CS80 v4?

It really depends on how much you care about "normal keys" (like a CS-80 has).

The Hydrasynth is the only standard keyboard with polyphonic pressure (and a ribbon) in the stores today (actually, the just released Waldorf Iridium is another one, although it costs twice as much).
Hydrasynth Deluxe would be my absolute first choice if I had the space.
Hoping for some new MPE controllers with standard keys being released in the near future.

I have two Sensel Morph, and although they're awesome for XYZ movement and can definitely do awesome stuff with a CS-80 plugin, velocity reponse is far from optimal, and if you have muscle memory for (more or less complex) chord voicings relying on the 1/2 inch raised black keys as tactile points of reference on the sides of your fingers, that goes pretty much out of the window.
A little better with a Seaboard Rise thanks to the overall bigger keys and slightly rised black keys, but still a very different experience from a normal keyboard (which is why the Osmose was designed the way it is).

Some reviews on GS suggest that the keyboard feels cheap.

https://gearspace.com/board/electronic- ... uxe-9.html

This is an annoying quest for me. I do need the physical reference of the black keys, or pads, whatever, so the touchpad replacements aren't a solution. What I really want is just a small poly AT keyboard with a fantastic long-lasting keybed. I really don't want a synthesizer coupled to it, especially not a VA synthesizer.

On the other hand, the deluxe could permanently replace my JX10 which has never been a very good controller. If I'm going to have one large keyboard in my studio then 73/76 keys is the right compromise for me. I have a digital piano, but it gets little use. Also, the JX10 AT isn't poly and feels terrible.

Well, for what it's worth, somebody else shortly after wrote "I don't think the key bed feels cheap and the poly after touch is amazing"

You can't please everyone, but overall I remember reading/seeing much more positive opinions over the negatives, since the beginning with the first 49-keys model.
Again, anecdotally speaking, in Andertons' YouTube channel they had a first impression video with the Deluxe and the guy is about to have an orgasm right as he puts his hands the Polytouch keybed.
It's subjective, but I don't think I'd have much to complain about it, also considering it's currently the only option (ruling out the Iridium).

I don't want a hardware synth either... I try to stay ITB as much as humanly possible.
And I don't really have any room for decent/functional space arrangement with an additional keyboard on top of my current 88-keys controller.
When the Deluxe was announced I was sure I was going to get it, but recent developments in the "2022 poly pressure scenario" had me holding back hoping for some miracle.

My biggest hope is with Arturia, which seemed to finally embrace MPE with this last VC9 release, their controllers use Fatar keybeds and Fatar just started implementing poly pressure starting with the Iridium.
The latest KeyLab MkII line is 3-4 years old, I'm hoping for a KeyLab 88 MkIII with a poly-pressure Fatar keybed to replace my current controller altogether.

[Trensharo]

Arturia software centre updated all my instruments from v8 to v9 including sq80, pigments and even augmented strings intro, but not to full version.
All in all, whatever is left on the v9 plate doesn’t interest me.
Will wait to see what upcoming v10 will offer before paying $149

Agree. Not enough to be worth $199 to me. I guess some people may go for the expansion packs, or whatever.

[ghettosynth]

When the Deluxe was announced I was sure I was going to get it, but recent developments in the "2022 poly pressure scenario" had me holding back hoping for some miracle.

My biggest hope is with Arturia, which seemed to finally embrace MPE with this last VC9 release, their controllers use Fatar keybeds and Fatar just started implementing poly pressure starting with the Iridium.
The latest KeyLab MkII line is 3-4 years old, I'm hoping for a KeyLab 88 MkIII with a poly-pressure Fatar keybed to replace my current controller altogether.

Ah, well it might be worth it to wait a bit more. It's not like I'm spending every day in the studio at the moment.

[LoveEnigma18]

Only have a few presets of Korg MS-20 V in Analog Lab V, but man, this thing sounds screamy good! Wonderful job by Arturia on this one.

[soulata]

Arturia software centre updated all my instruments from v8 to v9 including sq80, pigments and even augmented strings intro, but not to full version.
All in all, whatever is left on the v9 plate doesn’t interest me.
Will wait to see what upcoming v10 will offer before paying $149

Agree. Not enough to be worth $199 to me. I guess some people may go for the expansion packs, or whatever.

That would be me. I find their packs incredibly useful. I go through them all, most of them I have no use for but the ones I like I really like so they get marked for future use.

There are duds as well (like the whole Beatles pack) but I'm sure I can find a few amazing patches in almost any pack.

I usually tweak them just a little, record what I need for the project in question. Render. Done.

Btw, I feel the v9 update is worth 149€ to me but might not appeal to everyone.

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[noiseboyuk]

God help us if Komplete is the model (unavoidable pun) for Arturia’s V Collection going forward. I own the latest and greatest version of Komplete Ultimate 13 and it is a bloated, sub-standard piece of crap for the most part. NI can’t even be arsed to create new synth plugins anymore with the exception of Massive X and Super 8 (which started life as a Reaktor ensemble). Half of NI’s synths are these half-baked, phoned in Kontakt instruments and the other half are annoyingly digital sounding Reaktor ensembles (with the exception of Monark and Super 8 which is nicely done for what it is).

Reaktor Blocks is not taking the world by storm and thus Reaktor has lost any relevance that it once had. The user generated library of ensembles in particular is uniformly awful.

And then there is the fact that almost all of NI’s plugins are still incompatible with Apple M1 processors, are VST2 only and have GUIs that can’t be resized.

Kontakt (with its wide support for third party libraries) is about the only thing keeping Komplete afloat. And even Kontakt needs a total redesign to make it easier to use and to remain competitive with UVI’s Falcon.

Arturia would do well to stay in their lane and focus on what they are good at (or rather what they are getting better at).

NI have a lot of specific issues and some of their product development is perplexing to say the least. All I was saying is that just because a big bundle a la Komplete contains some products you may not use, it’s not a disaster. (And even though there’s some duds in Komplete, their sample libraries are generally very high quality and well developed).

There’s a few in V Collection already I don’t touch - the Piano and the B-3 to name two, both of which aren’t synths. At least the Augmented series are - variants of Pigments in Advanced mode. TBH at this point Pigments is the anomaly by not being included, even though its patches exist in Analog Lab.

[nightjar]

NI have a lot of specific issues and some of their product development is perplexing to say the least. All I was saying is that just because a big bundle a la Komplete contains some products you may not use, it’s not a disaster. (And even though there’s some duds in Komplete, their sample libraries are generally very high quality and well developed).

There’s a few in V Collection already I don’t touch - the Piano and the B-3 to name two, both of which aren’t synths. At least the Augmented series are - variants of Pigments in Advanced mode. TBH at this point Pigments is the anomaly by not being included, even though its patches exist in Analog Lab.

NI's current weakness (mostly due to HUGE amounts of technical debt) is exactly why Arturia SHOULD round out the V collection as a comprehensive alternative to Komplete.

I'm all in with current Komplete Ultimate CE and have zero products from Arturia. My frustration with NI's poor decision making of product direction, and the attractiveness of Arturia's new offerings has me very close to diving in deep.

And it's the update modeled Piano and the Augmented series that interest me most within the collection.

[gentleclockdivider]

I am having some issues here with the ms 20 that I don't have with the korg ms20 vst ( korg version )
As you can see from the screenshot , I am using EG 1 (green ) routed to initial gain , and EG 2(red) default to filter .
EG 2 is decaying the (LP) filter freq ,sustain set to zero .
On the arturia version the initial gain is called eg2 sidechain , and when EG 2 reaches sustain ( zero ) there is silence , on the korg version there is not becasue EG1 partially overrides it .



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[briefcasemanx]

Just made the purchase, the ms-20 sounds realllllly good.

How do they have the Korg license when Korg makes their own competing product? Very weird.

[Examigan]

Yes, also it seems OP-Xa V is very similar to the name of Sonic Projects synth OP-X Pro.