V-Machine

[VFXAU]

VFXAU,
If you are making a list of compatible program like I said before why don't you just upload a list the programs you know do work thus far and if they don't some sort of description of whats going on with that. You see list like that all the time when people make emulators. If these 1 man programmers have the time to write out lists of roms that work I see no reason why a legit company shouldn't be able to do the same. We're waiting....

OK, lets start with the easy ones,
Obviously most of the free VST plugins will work and are easy to install,
What I have personally run by myself,

Superwave P8
4 Front Piano
Phadiz
Invader
Texture
MinimoogVA
FreeAlpha
IDJ
Purple two
Synth1
GTG JP7A
GTG K1
Kwop
NK1001
AZR3
Polybit
Motion
SQ8L

And all the pre installed plugins on v.


Then the plugins which just require serial number or standard registration,
not hardware authentication or profiling like.

ImpOscar
Minimonsta
Oddity
CS80DEMO
Vanguard demo
Albino

Then most of the IK products which will work because they are based on the SAMPLE TANK Engine, IK uses hardware authentication and this means it is not simple for a user to get this info, you need a special tool, we actually have a unit hooked up via VNC to do this but this is not what we want to release to the public we rather have a much simpler method for these type of plugins. And this is what you will get.

I cannot say more about this or other situations while the process takes it's course with many commercial vendors.

Others I have running in this way are:

Tassman 4
Lounge Lizard 2

This is just me personally, you will get release information and a database from SMPRO in the next few days. I will post some Wizard files here as well.

In preparation of wider support for current and future plugins we have updated our WINE version in this weeks release (due up in the next 12 hours or so) this will further enhace the range of plugins we can run as well as future support for syncro soft.

[aMUSEd]

I'd be surprised you could get much mileage out of anything but the more basic patches in Tassman - it needs a powerful CPU in my experience (some patches choke my dualcore unless I really cut down the voices)

[klausl]

hi there,
except some freeware-plugins with simple .dll's i've installed NI B4, Lounge Lizard 3 and edirol hq orchestral. tricky installation procedures, but now the plugins are running, and the v-machine is doing it's work perfectly. i'm loving it

[gBeat2]

hi there,
i've installed NI B4, Lounge Lizard 3 and edirol hq orchestral.

NI B4 or NI B4II?

Thanks..

[Tricatel]

Hi VFXAU. Could you or anybody else post some of these wizards please?

4font True Pianos
NI FM8
Rob Papen Albino
Arturia MiniMoog
Novation V-Station
Arturia ARP2600
Arturia CV-80V

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There's the Rob Papen BLUE I did

dll_name: Blue/Blue.dll
id: 1349022532
name: Blue
is_synth: 1
parameter_count: 2500
program_count: 32
has_editor: 1
editor_width: 851
editor_height: 631
dirs_to_copy:
...
Blue_Arp
Blue_Banks
Blue_ECS
Blue_Env
Blue_Manual
Blue_Seq
User
...
registry_keys:
...

REGEDIT4

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\RPCX\Blue]
"Bank"="p:\\Blue\\Blue_Banks"
"User"="p:\\Blue\\User"
"Serial"="xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx"
"Panel"="0"
...

[klausl]

hi there,
i've installed NI B4, Lounge Lizard 3 and edirol hq orchestral.

NI B4 or NI B4II?

Thanks..

B4 II

[AnalogGuy1]

I gather that we can be confident that V-station works RIGHT now with any VSTi that is:
1) a synth or a sampler with a relatively small (<1G) sample set
2) not a CPU hog / reasonably low polyphony
3) relatively straightforward licensing or freeware (soon to be greatly relaxed in upcoming firmware update).

What about use with a sample-heavy application like Akoustik Piano? I could load the 4G of samples easily onto a USB stick. If it works with B4 II then licensing isn't an issue. But what about #1 and #2...can it handle streaming from a set of roughly 1G samples? I think about a 8-9 note polyphony is the lowest I'd find acceptable, with a good voice-stealing algorithm, if I avoid glissandos.

I'd love to be able to take this to a practice session and not have to worry about setting up my laptop.

[DustnPottyMouth]

ok I got my vmachine today.... right out of the box I tried to load superior 2.0 and I don't think its locating the samples. I can't say the wizard is that intuitive so I'm hoping they will make it simplier to use. It might take a little while but I'm gonna try anything I can get my hands on so if anyone has a request let me know and I'll try and get to it.


Also vfxau,

The explanation for loading vsti's to the actual unit and programming it to locate sample libraries is somewhat confusing... Can you elaborate some on directing the plugins to the sample libraries?

[DustnPottyMouth]

what I meant about the sample libraries is do I plug the harddrive into the vmachine while it(the vmachine is connected to the computer) and the locate the drive and sample library folder from that? Also does it have any problem reading ntfs cause thats the file system my drive is in.

[picaja]

I gather that we can be confident that V-station works RIGHT now with any VSTi that is:
1) a synth or a sampler with a relatively small (<1G) sample set
2) not a CPU hog / reasonably low polyphony
3) relatively straightforward licensing or freeware (soon to be greatly relaxed in upcoming firmware update).

What about use with a sample-heavy application like Akoustik Piano? I could load the 4G of samples easily onto a USB stick. If it works with B4 II then licensing isn't an issue. But what about #1 and #2...can it handle streaming from a set of roughly 1G samples? I think about a 8-9 note polyphony is the lowest I'd find acceptable, with a good voice-stealing algorithm, if I avoid glissandos.

I'd love to be able to take this to a practice session and not have to worry about setting up my laptop.

1) If SM pro releases a wizard for Wusikstation your question/problem is solved as Wusikstation is able to stream samples (choosable, from 8Mb 40mb,...), is cheap with a huge library (8Gb) for it's price. It's not that heavy on CPU load and loads it's samples very fast.

The included sampletank cannot stream samples or even load multisamples.

2) Correct, with Superwave P8 for example, maximum polyphony (or let's say monophonic) is 1 in some programs even with the delay effects off. I don't think the processor will be fast enough to handle Native Instruments or Arturia stuff. I get pretty good results with vanguard.

3) Yes, all 'standalone' dll's that don't require special activation.

[VFXAU]

A couple of quick points here,

Sample Tank certainly can play multi samples on several midi channels or layered ont he V-Machine, not sure where you got your info from regarding this.

Please don't assume anything about other companies we have not mentioned as I said above, I cannot discuss these other companies.

You can use a USB stick to store samples, it is like a hard disk, the V-Machine treats the USB stick in the same manner it treats the internal IDE drive, they even have the same drive letter "P".

Low Polyphony? again it depends on the plugin, nothing can be assumed here.

What I would agree is that out of the box, sample players which require more then 1gb or more ram, not hard disk space, (but remember we are not using half of it for an operating system) will most probably not work.

I gather that we can be confident that V-station works RIGHT now with any VSTi that is:
1) a synth or a sampler with a relatively small (<1G) sample set
2) not a CPU hog / reasonably low polyphony
3) relatively straightforward licensing or freeware (soon to be greatly relaxed in upcoming firmware update).

What about use with a sample-heavy application like Akoustik Piano? I could load the 4G of samples easily onto a USB stick. If it works with B4 II then licensing isn't an issue. But what about #1 and #2...can it handle streaming from a set of roughly 1G samples? I think about a 8-9 note polyphony is the lowest I'd find acceptable, with a good voice-stealing algorithm, if I avoid glissandos.

I'd love to be able to take this to a practice session and not have to worry about setting up my laptop.

1) If SM pro releases a wizard for Wusikstation your question/problem is solved as Wusikstation is able to stream samples (choosable, from 8Mb 40mb,...), is cheap with a huge library (8Gb) for it's price. It's not that heavy on CPU load and loads it's samples very fast.

The included sampletank cannot stream samples or even load multisamples.

2) Correct, with Superwave P8 for example, maximum polyphony (or let's say monophonic) is 1 in some programs even with the delay effects off. I don't think the processor will be fast enough to handle Native Instruments or Arturia stuff. I get pretty good results with vanguard.

3) Yes, all 'standalone' dll's that don't require special activation.

[DustnPottyMouth]

note to user

dont save any banks straight to desktop. It just deleted everything on my desktop Idk what to say now except I'm losing my mind... I just lost all my files....

god I'm really hating this thing as of right now.....

[VFXAU]

I am very sorry to hear this,

It does warn you that it will delete everything in the folder when you save a bank.

Try a system restore.

Danny

note to user

dont save any banks straight to desktop. It just deleted everything on my desktop Idk what to say now except I'm losing my mind... I just lost all my files....

god I'm really hating this thing as of right now.....

[amiga909]

following this thread since it started I am getting more confident about the v-machine.

will get it soon!

@VFXAU: you cant say anything about the release date for the rack version, I guess?
and btw, VFXAU (Danny) you are doing an awesome job here, thanks

[DustnPottyMouth]

I am very sorry to hear this,

It does warn you that it will delete everything in the folder when you save a bank.

Try a system restore.

Danny

note to user

dont save any banks straight to desktop. It just deleted everything on my desktop Idk what to say now except I'm losing my mind... I just lost all my files....

god I'm really hating this thing as of right now.....

yea its really too bad I was under the impression it was creating a sub folder on my desktop. Btw and I think is common with most people who have tweaked their daws but I turned off system restore long ago. I've lost several sessions and a few other documents I can't replace and thats very upsetting. As far as the unit goes I'm not sure how you plan on keeping these units out there. The unit itself is not very intuitive and the instructions seem easy until you apply them to what they are actually are for. I find it hard to believe that any normal person could use this unit for anything more than putting crappy freeware plug ins on it and thats not quite what I had in mind when buying this thing. In fact I had one purpose and that was to run toontracks DFHS and S2.0 on it. Since I can't seem to get them to work I'm planning on sending my unit back.

Heres a few things though that I think could have made my experience better.
For starters it would have been nice if the application would automatically load the plug in into the v machine when you pressed sync. I see you can load the bank and presets just fine but not the actual plug in and that could be rather confusing for most users. You can't look in the v machine like you can a memory card or external hard drive so its not all that easy to manage the plug ins on it. Also I think the application should have an emulation mode so you can see how the plug in would react and go in detail on the plug in as far as where your sound libraries are located. I could think of many more but those are my biggest aches and pains as of now.

Theres absolutely nothing in the documentation about using plug ins that use sample libraries other then than a short piece about chunks. You guys really should address this because I think the majority of people want this for that reason. I bought it because the fear of DFHS freezing up on stage seems rather embarrassing and I find it to be less likely on a unit with no moving parts or background processes running for it to fail.