KVR Audio

Echoes in the Attic · Post by **Echoes in the Attic** » Tue Nov 27, 2012 4:00 pm

Ingo, have you asked them why they have chosen to cripple their swing by restricting it to a few predetermined swing settings? ElectraX had a proper percentage swing like any other synth, but with Saurus they decided to restrict this and continued this apparently with Rayblaster. Why would they do this?

Also, do you know yet if the lfo's and other buttons are automatable. Again, they used to make everything automatable and then with Saurus they began to restrict things. The ability to map every control is something that always appealed to me about tone2 synths before.

Ingonator · Post by **Ingonator** » Tue Nov 27, 2012 4:03 pm

Hi everyone,

everything seems to run well towards the release of Rayblaster.

Besides the video also the official audio demo is free to publish. Here is a compilation of some links:

1.) Official Rayblaster website:

http://www.tone2.com/html/rayblaster_sy ... st_au.html
IMS details:
http://www.tone2.com/html/impulse_model ... is__i.html

2.) New video with description of the features and GUI (already posted earlier):

http://www.tone2.org/forum/index.php?PH ... pic=1311.0

3.) Official Rayblaster MP3 audio demo (around 19 minutes long):

Official Tone2 Rayblaster MP3 Audio Demo

http://www.tone2.org/forum/index.php?PH ... pic=1310.0

4.) The full version of my own audio demo which in parts is included in the official demo:

Ingo Weidner - Empire Of Rays - Rayblaster Demo 1

ZIP file with WAV file for better quality:
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/53230726/Ingo% ... mo%201.zip

This audio demo is based on 6 instances of Rayblaster and one instance of D16 Group Drumazon (= TR-909 emulation). No external FXs (also no Compressor) were used while rendering.

Here is a different version ("Remix") using a different drum part based on FXpansion Geist instead of Drumazon:

Ingo Weidner - Empire Of Rays - Remix 1

UPDATE:

5.) Rayblaster forum:

http://www.tone2.org/forum/index.php?board=30.0

Have fun,
Ingo

Totolitoto · Post by **Totolitoto** » Tue Nov 27, 2012 4:13 pm

Really sharp sound
I like

bobbybland · Post by **bobbybland** » Tue Nov 27, 2012 4:45 pm

Does this synth allow for stacking multiple patches alike electraX? if so how is it done?

osiris · Post by **osiris** » Tue Nov 27, 2012 4:57 pm

Demos sound great.

Ingonator · Post by **Ingonator** » Tue Nov 27, 2012 4:57 pm

bobbybland wrote:Does this synth allow for stacking multiple patches alike electraX? if so how is it done?

No, there is no stacking included. Anyway you got two oscillators which each could load two waveforms that could be mixed. The waveform mix of each oscillator could be modulated (like most other oscillator parameters). Each oscillator got it's own controls for the Formant (= Cutoff) value etc.

BTW my demo posted above includes a pad sound that emulates wavetable scanning. This is done with a long waveform that was built from several smaller waveforms and some crossfading. With a low harmonic setting you could then "zoom" into that long waveform and "scan" trough it with modulation of the "start Phase" parameter. in the pad sound used for the demo both an envelope and the Arp pattern were used to modulate the start phase of Osc1 and Osc2.

Some of those "wavetables" and also some single cycle waveforms which i created will be included in the waveform content.
An expansion with more presets and maybe also additional waveforms should not take too long after the official release of Rayblaster.

The waveforms in Rayblaster are saved with the presets so additional waveforms should be already included with the presets.

Ingo

dexterbella · Post by **dexterbella** » Tue Nov 27, 2012 4:59 pm

Ingonator wrote: If someone mentions that this would force him maybe not to try the synth and that it lowers his opinion of a company than it's a quite strange opinion for my taste

I have Electrax, Filterbank, Bifilter and Warmverb by Tone2 so I'm certainly not a member of the anti-Tone2 camp. I also have Alchemy that has a similar buy presets option but it can be hidden so it doesn't bother me - if the same was true of this synth it would equally be fine by me.
What irritates me is that this is right on the front panel and totally unnecessary. Put it in the help menu and I'm fine with it but I don't want to see it every time I open the GUI. As I said, I know it's only a little thing but it really does bother me and is both intrusive advertising and totally beneath Tone2 IMHO.

bobbybland · Post by **bobbybland** » Tue Nov 27, 2012 4:59 pm

Thanks Ingo, nice sounds

braj · Post by **braj** » Tue Nov 27, 2012 5:04 pm

Firebird also has this sort of link, so it is nothing new. Once you know it is there it is easy enough to avoid. I do think it is strange to call a few presets an 'expansion' like new functionality is added when it is just some more presets. But they are not the only ones marketing presets like that.

braj · Post by **braj** » Tue Nov 27, 2012 5:07 pm

Echoes in the Attic wrote:Ingo, have you asked them why they have chosen to cripple their swing by restricting it to a few predetermined swing settings? ElectraX had a proper percentage swing like any other synth, but with Saurus they decided to restrict this and continued this apparently with Rayblaster. Why would they do this?

Also, do you know yet if the lfo's and other buttons are automatable. Again, they used to make everything automatable and then with Saurus they began to restrict things. The ability to map every control is something that always appealed to me about tone2 synths before.

Marcus answered this during that Saurus thread, something about in combination with other settings it is capable of more than is there in the swing settings. I don't have either installed so I can't say, and I agree it is annoying to not just have a straight, clear fully adjustable swing setting.

fisherKing · Post by **fisherKing** » Tue Nov 27, 2012 5:09 pm

synthmaster has this as well; it's no big deal, you use what you want, and ignore the rest. rayblaster looks (and seems to) sound great, am excited about this one. i use electrax, and, occasionally, saurus. am more excited about this new plugin.

amazing how much discussion there's been for something not yet released. will be interesting to follow this thread once we're actually USING the plugin...!

Ingonator · Post by **Ingonator** » Tue Nov 27, 2012 5:20 pm

Rayblaster also got a public forum (posting only allowed for registered customers) now:

http://www.tone2.org/forum/index.php?board=30.0

Links for the video and the official demo are also included there:

http://www.tone2.org/forum/index.php?PH ... pic=1311.0

http://www.tone2.org/forum/index.php?PH ... pic=1310.0

Quote from Markus:
"We're on track with the release of RayBlaster in early December."

Ingo

Frantz · Post by **Frantz** » Tue Nov 27, 2012 7:13 pm

Official Tone2 Rayblaster MP3 Audio Demo

Help! I've been Rayblasted!

Those sounds not only 'cut through the mix', they cut through my brain too.

Ingo Weidner - Empire Of Rays - Rayblaster Demo 1

Fortunately, Ingo's demo is a lot easier on the ears and much more interesting sounding to me.

Ingonator · Post by **Ingonator** » Tue Nov 27, 2012 7:14 pm

dexterbella wrote:
Ingonator wrote: If someone mentions that this would force him maybe not to try the synth and that it lowers his opinion of a company than it's a quite strange opinion for my taste
I have Electrax, Filterbank, Bifilter and Warmverb by Tone2 so I'm certainly not a member of the anti-Tone2 camp. I also have Alchemy that has a similar buy presets option but it can be hidden so it doesn't bother me - if the same was true of this synth it would equally be fine by me.
What irritates me is that this is right on the front panel and totally unnecessary. Put it in the help menu and I'm fine with it but I don't want to see it every time I open the GUI. As I said, I know it's only a little thing but it really does bother me and is both intrusive advertising and totally beneath Tone2 IMHO.

Hi,

first i apologize if i sounded too harsh.

I have added a comment about the "Buy sounds" feature at the Beta tester forum but i also added a notice that this is not a big problem for myself.

It would be also good that as a Tone2 customer you would add a comment yourself. You could use the new Rayblaster forum:

http://www.tone2.org/forum/index.php?board=30.0

If you are not registered for the forum you could do it here:
http://www.tone2.org/forum/index.php?action=register

You'll need your Share-It ordering number for this as usually only customers could enter the forum.

Ingo

Ingonator · Post by **Ingonator** » Tue Nov 27, 2012 7:29 pm

FrantzM wrote:
Ingo Weidner - Empire Of Rays - Rayblaster Demo 1

Fortunately, Ingo's demo is a lot easier on the ears and much more interesting sounding to me.

Thanks.

Ingo

Tone2 Rayblaster: OUT NOW! (demo version available)