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TheoM wrote:
liquidsound wrote:
TheoM wrote:Akshara of course and i think it's great to read different views as i don't want to put anyone off S1 when there are clearly people who have OK performance with it on MAC! it's nice to read the opposite to myself :)
Can you use Reaper on the windows machine? Is Reaper that bad on the Mac? As bad as S1?
there will never be a time, ever, as i live and breathe, in my existence, that i will use reaper to make music. Ever. I don't know how much clearer i can be than that.

But thank you :)
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swiss tony: using live is very much like making love to a beautiful woman, everythings going fine, then you add a "plug-in"...
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Cockos Reaper offers project compatibility between OsX and Win.
Equal performance on both platforms.
Lower latency than Live.
No PDC issue.
Money friendly.

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TheoM wrote:ok now i *know* you are trolling me.
:lol: :lol: :lol:

Sorry :oops:

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Yeah definitely Reaper man. It's the shiznit. :hihi:

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Amberience wrote:Yeah definitely Reaper man. It's the shiznit. :hihi:
You'll meet the reaper if you persevere with comments like that :lol:
"I was wondering if you'd like to try Magic Mushrooms"
"Oooh I dont know. Sounds a bit scary"
"It's not scary. You just lose a sense of who you are and all that sh!t"

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TheoM wrote:I just absolutely knew without any shadow of a doubt that no matter the topic title that reaper and bitwig would make it into it somehow.. it's amazing :lol:
I completed the quote :hihi:

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TheoM wrote:ok now i *know* you are trolling me. And yes, that's exactly what trolling is. By the way it is by FAR not equal performance on both platforms. It performs at least 2x better on windows.


Far from the truth. I dual boot here and own Logic. Reaper smokes it in performance. Obviously, I don't run Logic in Windows 7, but I have run Reaper on both platforms, same plugins on both, and yes, I know what I'm talking about, as my IT career is old enough to drink now here in the States (21+ years.) If you were to dual boot your MBP so all things were equal, you'd see the same performance in Reaper on both platforms, provided the plugins you use performed the same in the Mac version as they do in the Windows version, which clearly isn't always the case. Some developers are better at developing for Windows, others for OS X.

Anyway, we get it - you don't like Reaper, which is fine. I certainly won't try to sell you Reaper, though other Forumites here might.

As long as we're sharing opinions, however, Logic IMO is as counterintuitive an application as has ever been released on the Mac, which I credit to the fact that much like Internet Explorer (which Microsoft built on top of NSCA Mosaic, which they bought from NSCA), Logic is a purchased product that Apple acquired from EMagic.

My hope for Logic is that Apple rewrites it from the ground up for Logic X and makes it a true Apple application rather than the hodgepodge it is now.
Ableton/Propellerheads/Cockos Reaper/Logic/Renoise/U-He/Tone2/NI/DiscoDSP/Fabfilter/Xils Lab/Reveal Sound/112dB

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