Hive 1.2 - free update - adds wavetables and more

[EvilDragon]

Yes, that's what the XYs are.

[drzhnn]

So macro-knobs are just all parameters from Xs and Ys of the pads but linked together and presented as knobs?

[Funkybot's Evil Twin]

So macro-knobs are just all parameters from Xs and Ys of the pads but linked together and presented as knobs?

Check out the X/Y pages on the Zebra 2.8 Dot Eight skin. You'll see the X axis is just one macro knob and the Y is another. Nothing special about the X/Ys compared to other synths macro knobs in terms of what they do, it's just how they're displayed.

[drzhnn]

Ah, I see now. Thanks. I misinterpreted the whole thing

[plugmon]

It's two things:

We want to see how far we get with automatic assignments and the options available. We want to hear criticism/suggestions etc. to see if we can improve upon this "most comfortable" way. That's ebcause experience (Zebra2) tells us that people commonly can't be bothered setting up XYs, but they still like them when they're there.

Thanks for the detailed answer!

Having set XYs for my 128 presets and my impression:
Presets are really useful, especially ones for envelope & effects. It saved a lot of time!
Yet I want to adjust the depth of some specific parameters such as Resonance, Decay(Reverb) and Feedback(Delay), since it sounds extreme when they reach 100.
Or when I edit very-slow-attack pads, there were cases where the depth of ENV Attack preset was not enough to reach 0 attack.

It would be great if there's some background calculation for the best depth according to current value, or a single knob that can adjust 4 target depth at a time (like LinkedControl element that Hive already has).

Anyway wavetable+XY=super fun!

[quickmix]

Thank You for the Update!

[knowix]

This is an interesting thread: https://www.gearslutz.com/board/electro ... iller.html

Now that Hive's sonic options have been extensively expanded, perhaps it's worth extending its ability to work with hardware controllers. That's something that "supersynths" like Serum may struggle with due to feature overload.

I've mentioned before that I've not encountered any soft synth that's GUI genuinely interacted with a midi controller. Sure the knobs might turn, but you can't look at the GUI and immediately tell which knob on your controller is pointing to what parameter. And showing what knob is controlling what parameter on
midi controllers themselves is the costliest aspect of midi controllers (you'll need more knobs, more space for note strips underneath, or LCD screens).

I'm pretty convinced you could adequately control most standard plugins using 8-16 knobs, 8-16 buttons and a plug-in that told you which knob controls which parameter, with the ability to tab through on-screen parameters using buttons.

[Gone soft]

Love the silky smooth interpolation, among other things making my homegrown Wt's made with Serum that generally glitch up a bit in it's fathersoftware come a lot closer to what I aimed for when making them. Also unison detuning either sounds better than Serum or perhaps it's that they naturally profit from the Wt's becoming smoother when I choose the appropriate interpolation type. Either way the results are generally acheived faster and sound better with Hive. So now it's often Serum for making Wt's (no, the whole scripting thing isn't something I'm up for yet, sad to say I'm not geek enough for it yet ) and Hive for making sounds I enjoy with them.

One problem I noticed: I can't load any Wt wav files where the filename contain the following Norwegian letters: æ æ å. There are also some other problematic letters/signs, those that Serum use to replace Norwegian letters with when I try to save a Wt with a Norwegian name like: øæ. Other Wt files in the same folder load just fine and I've checked the files are still there and that they will load into an audioeditor and seem kind of similar to other Wt files. Anyone else experincing this? Anyone reckon there's an easy fix that the good people at u-he can apply?

[EvilDragon]

Just sounds that Unicode is not supported for wavetable filenames. Seems like a pretty easy fix.

[Urs]

Hmmm, weird. The file names/paths should be all UTF-8 encoded. Maybe I overlooked something.

[tasmaniandevil]

Hmmm, weird. The file names/paths should be all UTF-8 encoded. Maybe I overlooked something.

@Urs, looks like it's a Windows issue.

Everything fine on Mac, files with special characters display, load and play fine in all formats (only the VST2 32bit version has some trouble displaying those characters correctly in the context menu).

But on Windows, one gets the "File missing" dialog when trying to load such files.
Guess I only tested that stuff on Mac.
Will make a ticket for it in Jira.

[glokraw]

Hmmm, weird. The file names/paths should be all UTF-8 encoded. Maybe I overlooked something.

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[MorpherX]

I have bought Hive because of its great GUI, handling performance and the excellent Wavetables delivered with v 1.2.
Also the sound can be very good, depending on the Hive modes, Filters and quality of wavetables.

Only one question: Is it possible to scan wavetables without any interpolation or crossfade (or spectralfade) because I and maybe some other users have wavetables which are already stored crossfaded (or spectralfaded). So when I load this wavetables they are faded again and sound therefore dull or damped.
A little problem also occures whith long releases, 16 Voices and Detune to 16. Then there are cracles and drops even if my processor is at 1% of usage and the Hive CPU shows 50%, but this is a very rare situation.(with 1024 samples in the audiocard)

In my view Hive is now the best Virtual Instrument, for musical and simple usage, on the market, even if it doesn't has all features and all filters that would be possible and I have tested it now for some weeks.

[lengro]

Yes, the "switch" mode does not interpolate.

[MorpherX]

Yes, the "switch" mode does not interpolate.

Ah, thanks for the info, thats great !
I have not used this mode with my own tables and will test it.