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Elektronisch · Post by **Elektronisch** » Tue May 26, 2015 8:34 am

Urs,

what filters did you used for Hive? are they something that was never used in Uhe Synths before?

Cyoon · Post by **Cyoon** » Tue May 26, 2015 8:41 am

a ladder filter, a diode-based Steiner-Parker filter and a State Variable Filter.

http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic ... 1&t=427890

Urs · Post by **Urs** » Tue May 26, 2015 8:42 am

themachinelt wrote:Urs,

what filters did you used for Hive? are they something that was never used in Uhe Synths before?

They are different topologies (ladder, steiner-parker, state variable) modelled with a method similar to Bazille's filters. They are zero delay feedback filters with "cheated in" non-linear elements. The state variable in the clean engine doesn't have non-linear elements. So latter is pretty much based on linear nodal analysis of an analogue prototype.

We never use exactly the same filter in two different products. We tweak filters to fit the purpose and we always deploy newer technologies if available.

Elektronisch · Post by **Elektronisch** » Tue May 26, 2015 8:50 am

Urs wrote:
themachinelt wrote:Urs,

what filters did you used for Hive? are they something that was never used in Uhe Synths before?
They are different topologies (ladder, steiner-parker, state variable) modelled with a method similar to Bazille's filters. They are zero delay feedback filters with "cheated in" non-linear elements. The state variable in the clean engine doesn't have non-linear elements. So latter is pretty much based on linear nodal analysis of an analogue prototype.

We never use exactly the same filter in two different products. We tweak filters to fit the purpose and we always deploy newer technologies if available.

Thank you!

I was wondering, do they affect how the filter envelope works?

I tried to recreate the sound from Diva with uhbie filter in Hive, but the sound of the envelope becomes so different no matter what settings i try (dirty mode seems the closest to be).

Urs · Post by **Urs** » Tue May 26, 2015 9:51 am

Yes, envelopes are also different. Dirty might indeed be closest to Diva.

However, the differences are utterly subtle.

I'll lock this thread as we have a new one here:

http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic ... 1&t=438760

There'll be an even newer one next week

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