Amplitube 2 Jimi Hendrix RELEASED this month!!!

[Sascha Franck]

Yeah well, regardless whether it's "common" these days to advertise music gear with hot chicks (especially in the world of guitar players...), I'm more turned off than anything else.
Also, I think the days of those macho guitarists getting (or lusting after) all the chicks are over - as if they ever truly existed.

[diverdee]

All this talk about more developers moving to dongles, keys etc. - sounds like wishful thinking to me on ik's part personally, if it happened there'd be less chance of people getting so sacked off with the developers who are doing it now.
Personally I haven't anything that requires a dongle now & I wont have in the future - i've seen as well as heard what goes wrong when they get damaged, lost, drivers conflict, new products replace the drivers with out of date ones causing other products to fail, people have problems with usb devices due to e.g. synchrosoft keys making demands on the usb bus etc. etc.
At the end of the day I don't know as it makes a great deal of difference anyway the guys who do all the reverse engineering love a challenge.
An example is another product that uses a key, a sample set that as well as being locked into a proprietary format & can only be used by the vsti it comes with also has a dongle/key?
Damn, I do buy refills (which are proprietary), partly because they are economical, but I think i'll stick to akai's/giga's & translation programs so that I can use the samples in anything I want in the future & even access the raw sample data if I feel the need. A sample library with a dongle? whatever next?
No disrespect intended, just my feelings (& coincidentally those of every musician I know personally who are all getting a bit peeved with this - to the point of changing hosts & allowing protection schemes to influence their purchasing decisions).
No doubt many will argue that the dongles & keys are being updated & made safer etc. all the time so there's no need to worry - sorry there's always need to worry, some of us like complete control over & complete stability on our systems.
Rantlet over, I bet it will sound very nice though, I played with amplitube1 on a friends system & (while not a guitarist) got some really nice sounds out of it, especially one kinda laid back jazzy tone with a nice delay & slight touch of distortion to it, very nice.

[beltrom]

I see girls advertising music gear and am turned off right away. Mechanics have pictures of half-dressed chicks in their tool box. that's appealing to the macho image....I'm an artist (though I am a certified machinst as well), that doesn't appeal to my artistic side one bit...in fact the opposite. I see that and feel those doing the adverstiing are grouping "males" to one classification...I think it's antiquated and quite lame tbh to use that form of advertising in the arts (unless it directly relates to the particular piece of art, ie photo galleries and such)...I'd like to think that most artists are deeper then that.

Yes sir well said. There is enough sleaze in this world. I ask you: How would you feel if that was your daughter on display? We should let IK know it's in poor taste.

You guys are missing the point. IK is telling us that even if it's fake, as in fake blond and fake boobs it can make an ok attempt at being sexy...

Like an ampsim f.e.

It's really just a smart way of being educational.

I think for most Swedes Natascha is a turnoff for amplitube (but not to the extent of not buying it if it's good). She's just to overexposed here and not in the best circumstances. Bigger boobs, smaller boobs, sex in the closet, reality shows. You know the drill, basic Pamela Anderson-stuff...

[Beardedone]

Hey Jiddu. I lke your sig. Nice post too.

Cheers,
Gordon

[Beardedone]

You guys are missing the point. IK is telling us that even if it's fake, as in fake blond and fake boobs it can make an ok attempt at being sexy...

I guess. But I only glanced at the pic. It's not cool to have sexist picture on screen in my office or at home.

[Sascha Franck]

Actually, regarding copy protection: A dongle would be just great if it didn't require ANY installers or ANY special dongle drivers to be present. In that case I could just hop from machine to machine with a USB stick carrying the required DLLs or whatever is required for a given plugin format and play away after plugging my dongle in.

Unfortunately this isn't the case and I know of quite some studios that wouldn't let Synchrosoft software even coming close to their machines. Further, as I'm sure AT won't be a freely copyable DLL or whatsoever, a lot of people wouldn't like me to run installers on their lean studio machines.

Seriously, software companies should think about a better implementation of dongled stuff. It should only need third party software to be installed in case you want to update. The software itself should be freely copyable too (ok, most likely that won't work with DX, but hey, just add some "register" file and there you go).
In addition, in case something is coming with hardware (bundled or optional), such as the Stomp I/O thing, there could be a little (locked) space inside the Stomp thingy to lock the dongle in, so you wouldn't have to use up more than one USB slot.

It seems as if all that is too much too ask (I recommended such things ages ago to a wellknown company...) - and I seriously don't know why. It's unlikely that technical issues are the reason.
Why in the world don't software developers finally start to think about what would be practicable for their users?

[A3ntar]

Well, that's a loaded way of describing the situation.

Can you please explain what loaded means? exaggerated?

Squids, I don't think that anyone here doubts that you honestly and genuinly like AT2. But I guess most of us are waiting for a demo version ( if there is going to be any ) to hear it for ourselfs first. About that key protection, what I got from IK officials is that they were still working ( as of yesterday ) if it was cost efficient for them to use a hardware based dongle.

A question for you squids, how will the version of AT2 included with the IO board be different from the plugin version of AT2? Can the controller be used with anything else than the bundled application?

Is anyone else going to the EAS besides squids? We already know that Squids is in love with AT2.

[AndrewSimon]

Also, I think the days of those macho guitarists getting (or lusting after) all the chicks are over - as if they ever truly existed.

OH NO
You mean I was practicing 2 years for nothing?!



I must say this thread is very active considering everybody thinks it will be a bust.

[A3ntar]

Sascha, I don't think that you need to worry with a 3Ghz PC. There is always SPDIF output if you have a nice audio card/interface that will give you really low latency < 4ms. If not, then even with USB, you will still manage < 10 ms, which is really not bad for live playing.

[beltrom]

You guys are missing the point. IK is telling us that even if it's fake, as in fake blond and fake boobs it can make an ok attempt at being sexy...

I guess. But I only glanced at the pic. It's not cool to have sexist picture on screen in my office or at home.

I know how you feel, half the people at my office are ladies, includig the boss. So I don't really appreciate it either.

[diverdee]

Actually, regarding copy protection: A dongle would be just great if it didn't require ANY installers or ANY special dongle drivers to be present. In that case I could just hop from machine to machine with a USB stick carrying the required DLLs or whatever is required for a given plugin format and play away after plugging my dongle in.

Something along those lines would be more acceptable for true.
Like you said, a lot of people wont let certain dongle drivers near their machines, that's one reason (as well as major problems with usb devices & others) why a friend of mine is giving up on sx - it's so difficult collaborating, as no one will let him install the crap on their pc's so that he can install sx & bring his dongle & projects over.
With a olution like yours collaborations etc. would be a doddle.

[Beardedone]

Thanks for clarifying these points, Sascha. I fear that I was beginning to sound like a crank. All I know is that buddies who have used dongles (Steinberg and others) tell me "whatever you do, don't risk it".

[Sascha Franck]

Sascha, I don't think that you need to worry with a 3Ghz PC. There is always SPDIF output if you have a nice audio card/interface that will give you really low latency < 4ms. If not, then even with USB, you will still manage < 10 ms, which is really not bad for live playing.

For my needs, anything higher than 3ms is not exactly useable. I may not notice things on a larger stage, but as soon as headphone monitoring is involved (which is the case for my recent musical job), it's irritating, to say the least.
Don't forget that latencies for software monitoring are doubled (1x for the input, 1x for the output).
Differences between 5-10ms can make anything rhythmically be "in the pocket", "relaxed" or "rushed".
I prefer to decide by myself, rather than being forced to play early, just to compensate for latency, when the recorded part will be played back as it was coming in, thus being early.

[Beardedone]

Does anyone here use dongles without any issues?

[Watto]

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Holy shit - we've uncovered a longer poster than Lunch! Can I have an audio cassette version??!!

The funny part that you didn't know until just now is that my response post (which I ended up deleting because I finally got to the last paragraph and realized he had misunderstood me all along) was at least as long again.

Greg