KVR Audio

munchkin · Post by **munchkin** » Tue Apr 11, 2006 9:02 pm

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ACID.

funkychickendance · Post by **funkychickendance** » Tue Apr 11, 2006 9:09 pm

stale bread wrote:thanks very much, thats one thing that pisses me off about ableton live and acid. this is the most crucial workflow feature of any sampler.,

Treat yourself to LiveSlice, loop chopping heaven, squared. People say nice things about Lucifer, too.

/funxi

billybk1 · Post by **billybk1** » Tue Apr 11, 2006 9:26 pm

One of my favorite new ACID Pro 6 features is the surface controller support. I bought a Frontier Designs TranzPort wireless DAW controller, for SONAR, last Summer.
Now with ACID Pro 6's built-in TranzPort plugin, I have complete freedom to move about and control ACID from anywhere, in my house, even through walls and floors! I can be across the room, or in a completely different room ready to record a vocal/guitar track. With the press, of the record button, on the controller, I can:

Insert a new audio track, arm it and start recording, without ever stopping playback (true on-the fly recording).

Plus a whole lot more:

Not only do you have full transport control, but you can set up new in/out loop points, enable/disable looping, solo, mute, undo, adjust pan, adjust volume, stop/start metronome, insert markers, move to markers, insert new audio track, insert new MIDI track, monitor tracks/buses, change inputs/outputs etc.
From the TranzPort controllers display you always know where you are at and what is going on (the default display gives you current track/bus name, volume level, pan level, current location (M:B:T) and metering). The display, of course changes, depending on what function modes you are accessing. Best of all, it fits in the palm, of your hand. For another $12 bucks I bought the mic stand adapter accessory. It's perfect, I can move the mic stand anywhere around my studio/house and easily adjust the height depending if I am sitting or standing. It also has an adjustable tilt mechanism and backlight display, for low light conditions.

Yes, no need to be tied to your computer keyboard anymore, you are now free to move about your studio.

Wicked Cool!!!!!

stale bread · Post by **stale bread** » Tue Apr 11, 2006 10:21 pm

hey thanks for the tip billybk1

stale bread · Post by **stale bread** » Tue Apr 11, 2006 10:23 pm

SJ_Digriz wrote:
stale bread wrote:thanks very much, thats one thing that pisses me off about ableton live and acid. this is the most crucial workflow feature of any sampler.,
You realize that neither tool you listed is a sampler.

what would you catagorize them as, thats exactly what they are to me. albeit they run vstis and sequence midi now, before that they were just samplers, to me they are samplers added capabilities.

nlamartina · Post by **nlamartina** » Tue Apr 11, 2006 10:28 pm

I've been using a Behringer BCF2000 to control Acid, and it's made things significantly easier on me, because I can do many things at once without scrolling or twiddling. That and it allows me to trigger Acid even if its window doesn't have focus, which is great when I have several apps all linked together.

Another great sub-$200 device that makes a great alternative to a Mackie surface.

Edit:

stale bread wrote:what would you catagorize them as, thats exactly what they are to me. albeit they run vstis and sequence midi now, before that they were just samplers, to me they are samplers added capabilities.

They're DAWs, which can host samplers. Something like NI's Intakt would be more up your alley, and it can be hosted as a VSTi in the software you mention.

stale bread · Post by **stale bread** » Wed Apr 12, 2006 1:36 am

to me intakt is a sample player, it does not sample like Live does.

SJ_Digriz · Post by **SJ_Digriz** » Wed Apr 12, 2006 12:10 pm

stale bread wrote:to me intakt is a sample player, it does not sample like Live does.

Live does not sample and neither does Acid. Recording and sample creation are entirely different arenas. Neither application was EVER a sampler, never intended to be one and don't even pretend to have overlap features. There are plenty of software samplers that are in fact samplers. Both Live and Acid have extensive loop manipulation features for track building. Again, that has nothing to do with sampling.

Reverend Rhythm · Post by **Reverend Rhythm** » Wed Apr 12, 2006 12:19 pm

I think the idea of "sampling" went away with hardware samplers. Now, with computers, any recording software can "sample" or record. But we still need sample editors and players.

While I'm here, I bought acid 6 and I love it! It was a great update!

Cabinfever · Post by **Cabinfever** » Wed Apr 12, 2006 12:43 pm

Acid 6 is a brilliant release ! I jumped to Sonar a while back after Acid appeared to be suffering corporate death. But this release makes up for everything.

Even in its ".0" release it feels way more stable and robust than any host I've ever used.

Igor 4000 · Post by **Igor 4000** » Wed Apr 12, 2006 1:25 pm

stale bread wrote:Please somebody answer this:,,, in acid you can slice a loop up but after that does it automaticly map the slices to midi notes so that you can trigger/record pattern play into the sequencer????

I'm amazed, and dare I say shocked, that Acid cannot do this. This is, after all, a host who's main selling point is (or was) it's timestretching capabilities.

Cabinfever · Post by **Cabinfever** » Wed Apr 12, 2006 1:54 pm

Slicing ? Well, one of the things I really like about Acid is that it doesn't try to cover every trick in the book. It covers all the crucial elements, yet keeps the GUI clean and the workflow simple.

If you want beat slicing with midi note mapping then there's a zillion other apps to do it.

funkychickendance · Post by **funkychickendance** » Wed Apr 12, 2006 2:04 pm

Igor 4000 wrote:
stale bread wrote:Please somebody answer this:,,, in acid you can slice a loop up but after that does it automaticly map the slices to midi notes so that you can trigger/record pattern play into the sequencer????
I'm amazed, and dare I say shocked, that Acid cannot do this. This is, after all, a host who's main selling point is (or was) it's timestretching capabilities.

Can't dance, can't do household repairs, can't cook...oh, sorry, that's me...

I can stretch time though...zzzzz....

/funxi

Igor 4000 · Post by **Igor 4000** » Wed Apr 12, 2006 2:20 pm

Cabinfever wrote:Slicing ? Well, one of the things I really like about Acid is that it doesn't try to cover every trick in the book. It covers all the crucial elements, yet keeps the GUI clean and the workflow simple.

If you want beat slicing with midi note mapping then there's a zillion other apps to do it.

Having to use another app keeps the workflow simple? The fact that I can import a beat into FL Studio and it automatically gets sliced and mapped keeps the workflow simple (not a comparison of hosts...just an example). Acid already offers "Beatmapping", which is a slicer of sorts...is it not a logical progression for the Beatmapper to map those notes? It just seems like an obvious oversight to me.

SJ_Digriz · Post by **SJ_Digriz** » Wed Apr 12, 2006 2:56 pm

Igor 4000 wrote: I'm amazed, and dare I say shocked, that Acid cannot do this. This is, after all, a host who's main selling point is (or was) it's timestretching capabilities.

and timestrechting has what to do with midi not assignment. Acid timestretches just fine.

acid pro 6?