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Karmacomposer · Post by **Karmacomposer** » Fri Dec 14, 2012 12:04 am

ferez21 wrote:
liquidsound wrote:
Karmacomposer wrote:Well, I looked at Drumaxx and it sounds too much like several of my other modelled/algorythmic drum machines (both vsti and ipad apps).

Forget that one. Sakura is a definite and Harmor is a no-brainer.

Not sure about Groove Machine.

Yeah, I really want Gross Beat. So I think i'll buy Harmor, Sakura and Gross Beat. I don't need Groove Machine (I have the ipad Electribes and other such apps and vsti's).

Is there any other product, free or paid, like Gross Beat, that is less expensive than $45? I want it specifically for the envelope gating feature.

Mike
Look at their plugins. Great stuff!
http://www.cableguys.de/curve.html
MeldaProduction MRhythmyzer, just bought it 2 weeks ago - very good product, suggest you to demo it.

Perfect. Now I don't need Gross Beat!

Thanks for the heads up.

Mike

Gribs · Post by **Gribs** » Fri Dec 14, 2012 12:12 am

I decided to just get Harmor for now. If I didn't have any other hardware or virtual groove boxes, this would be a no-brainer (effectively just $36 more after the extra 10% discount).

Examigan · Post by **Examigan** » Fri Dec 14, 2012 1:03 am

Karmacomposer wrote:
Examigan wrote:
Karmacomposer wrote:I own Sytrus, Edison, Harmless, Toxic Biohazard, DirectWave, Maximus, Juice Pack, FL Studio Producer Edition, video player and Ogun.

Mike
Hey Mike

Has Toxic been updated at all lately? I read a review on it that's dated 2008.
I don't have any FM type synths, (some I have can do a bit of FM, but not like Toxic) and am thinking of getting it.
Nope. Not one update in all the years i've owned it. It does sound good though.

Mike

Ok cool, thanks for the info Mike.

I guess if it works great, sounds great, etc, that's all that matters.

Another older synth I thought about getting (with no updates for a long time) is Surge.

I mean... I just got Minimonsta a few months ago, and it hasn't been updated in years either, but I love it

I guess I would get either Toxic or Harmor, both are really cool

Image-Line · Post by **Image-Line** » Fri Dec 14, 2012 1:41 am

For those of you buying our synths, don't forget the Preset Forums, there's one for most Synths/Effects...

http://forum.image-line.com/viewforum.php?f=1955

Regards Scott

Karmacomposer · Post by **Karmacomposer** » Fri Dec 14, 2012 2:09 am

Examigan wrote:
Karmacomposer wrote:
Examigan wrote:
Karmacomposer wrote:I own Sytrus, Edison, Harmless, Toxic Biohazard, DirectWave, Maximus, Juice Pack, FL Studio Producer Edition, video player and Ogun.

Mike
Hey Mike

Has Toxic been updated at all lately? I read a review on it that's dated 2008.
I don't have any FM type synths, (some I have can do a bit of FM, but not like Toxic) and am thinking of getting it.
Nope. Not one update in all the years i've owned it. It does sound good though.

Mike
Ok cool, thanks for the info Mike.

I guess if it works great, sounds great, etc, that's all that matters.

Another older synth I thought about getting (with no updates for a long time) is Surge.

I mean... I just got Minimonsta a few months ago, and it hasn't been updated in years either, but I love it

I guess I would get either Toxic or Harmor, both are really cool

Get Harmor. That synth is off the charts amazing. Toxic is cool, but I think you may be disappointed. Harmor is way more current and can do a zillion times more.

Mike

mclovestrina · Post by **mclovestrina** » Fri Dec 14, 2012 4:25 am

jsp1979 wrote:Is Harmless a subset of Harmor?

Honestly, I like the simplicity of Harmless, but Harmor is much better "deal."

Was thinking of the same thing. Also since it was cheaper. But given that theyre at the same price, I had to reconsider.

liquidsound · Post by **liquidsound** » Fri Dec 14, 2012 4:34 am

Karmacomposer wrote:
liquidsound wrote:
Karmacomposer wrote:Well, I looked at Drumaxx and it sounds too much like several of my other modelled/algorythmic drum machines (both vsti and ipad apps).

Forget that one. Sakura is a definite and Harmor is a no-brainer.

Not sure about Groove Machine.

Yeah, I really want Gross Beat. So I think i'll buy Harmor, Sakura and Gross Beat. I don't need Groove Machine (I have the ipad Electribes and other such apps and vsti's).

Is there any other product, free or paid, like Gross Beat, that is less expensive than $45? I want it specifically for the envelope gating feature.

Mike
Look at their plugins. Great stuff!
http://www.cableguys.de/curve.html
That's a synth. Gross Beat is an effect.

Mike

Curve is a Synth but the other plugins are not. VolumeShaper can produce Gates effects and much more.
FilterShape and the free pancake are awesome.

szurcio · Post by **szurcio** » Fri Dec 14, 2012 6:36 am

I like Sytrus:

rj0 · Post by **rj0** » Fri Dec 14, 2012 10:11 am

Odd.

SliceX's wave editor seems to include everything in Edison (plus has additional capabilities including Articulation), yet SliceX's regular price is lower than Edison's.

Any idea why?

JMC · Post by **JMC** » Fri Dec 14, 2012 10:47 am

Karmacomposer wrote:Zero-X

BeatSlicer/BeatCreator are not related to Slicex (although they shared similar features).

cyphersuit · Post by **cyphersuit** » Fri Dec 14, 2012 11:08 am

Image-Line wrote:For those of you buying our synths, don't forget the Preset Forums, there's one for most Synths/Effects...

http://forum.image-line.com/viewforum.php?f=1955

Regards Scott

Scott, while you are here: any plans for groove machine to go 64 bit in 2012?

thanks,

phil

musikmachine · Post by **musikmachine** » Fri Dec 14, 2012 1:02 pm

After demoing a few Harmor is definitely my favourite. I like Sytrus but that gui is too small for me. Do i need another synth though?

Sendy · Post by **Sendy** » Fri Dec 14, 2012 1:05 pm

musikmachine wrote:Do i need another synth though?

Brain: "Not really... When you consider all the possibilities you already have with what you own, you're probably all set until the end of the century"

Heart: "YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES DON'T LISTEN TO BRAIN HE SMELLS YES YES YES YES!"

musikmachine · Post by **musikmachine** » Fri Dec 14, 2012 6:50 pm

Sendy wrote:
musikmachine wrote:Do i need another synth though?
Brain: "Not really... When you consider all the possibilities you already have with what you own, you're probably all set until the end of the century"

Heart: "YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES DON'T LISTEN TO BRAIN HE SMELLS YES YES YES YES!"

I don't have anything that does image resynthesis like Harmor and the browser integration with FL is really useful for accessing and loading samples and envelopes. I've got all the waveforms from rapture to use too plus tons of sample fodder. I'm finding it really good for drones and textures, definitely not something i can easily cover with what i've got. Really low hit on the cpu as well. Dammit, brain just lost the argument.

DJMashbot · Post by **DJMashbot** » Fri Dec 14, 2012 9:02 pm

Sendy wrote:
musikmachine wrote:Do i need another synth though?
Brain: "Not really... When you consider all the possibilities you already have with what you own, you're probably all set until the end of the century"

Heart: "YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES DON'T LISTEN TO BRAIN HE SMELLS YES YES YES YES!"

Hehe, this is my internal struggle every time I demo something. Also, there's usually a third party involved: my wallet.

Which Image-Line plugins would you get? (end of the world sale)