U-HE Hive

[JonSolo]

Hmm. Wow. Just...really? Wow.

u-He= great products.

Calm. Down.

Zebra? topz

[ddeez]

Zebra is an amazing synth i used to use it on every track literally. I feel like the quality of diva especially and bazille too Far surpasses the sonic quality of zebra. I think that making a synth that doesnt improve on an old uhe synth (intentionally) sound wise, that has since been surpassed by much better sounding synths that the same company makes doesnt make much sense to me. I am uhe fanboy number 1. I make my living off music and my entire career i have religiously used uhe synths and plugs as my bread and butter tools. Every new uhe synth that comes out is new fuel for my production. I rely on the company and im hoping they're going to continue in their tradition of putting out the best sounding synths on the market at that time.

[Howard]

...that has since been surpassed by much better sounding synths that the same company makes...

Tip: Don't let Zebra's age cloud your judgement, ddeez!

[ddeez]

I feel its utterly apparent. Trust me i wish it wasnt. Zebra has way more flexibility then diva. If zebra sounded as good as diva id never need another synth again. I bought dark zebra too. So i have the diva filters. Still a far cry from the quakity of sound of diva. Ps howard i see why they call u the grump in the manuals lol. Love ur sound design tho lol!

[Howard]

Actually, I call myself "the grump", and I wear it proudly

Re Zebra vs Diva: It wasn't really clear from your previous posts that you're mainly interested in authentic analogue filters. Diva certainly beats Zebra there, but Zebra beats Diva (and all other plugins IMHO) at so many types of digital synthesis. Perhaps overstating my case: Zebra is a much more modern synth than Diva

[EvilDragon]

Both Zebra and Diva sound most excellent. Except Diva cannot go into areas where Zebra can. Both are extremely valid to use in any kind of productions... there's nothing "bad" in Zebra's sound, still sounds sublime, especially for the CPU usage it takes.

[ddeez]

Howard im not mainly interested in just filters. Im interested in overall quality of sound from every angle of the synth. Just the osc themselves sound much richer and fuller in diva then in zebra. With no extra fx etc. its very obvious to me. When i make the simplest of patches in diva and in zebra, diva sounds head and shoulders above the zebra patches in fullness etc. i'd be interested to know what urs thinks of this. I'd be amazed that u dont hear this difference. I know this isnt a scientific comparison but i think it proves my point: Listen to ur own presets that u created for both synths, the diva ones sound way better. The reason for that is the synth.

[firepile]

Diva sounds different, not "better".

[pdxindy]

Howard im not mainly interested in just filters. Im interested in overall quality of sound from every angle of the synth. Just the osc themselves sound much richer and fuller in diva then in zebra. With no extra fx etc. its very obvious to me. When i make the simplest of patches in diva and in zebra, diva sounds head and shoulders above the zebra patches in fullness etc. i'd be interested to know what urs thinks of this. I'd be amazed that u dont hear this difference. I know this isnt a scientific comparison but i think it proves my point: Listen to ur own presets that u created for both synths, the diva ones sound way better. The reason for that is the synth.

Way better to you... because you have a specific criteria that you judge by.

Sure Diva generally sounds 'fuller' than Zebra... but it is your subjective opinion that fuller is intrinsically better. I like Zebra for the way I can make 'thin' sounds that still sound rich. I frequently don't want fuller and am often trying to make Diva thinner and lighter. Lots of real world percussion isn't full sounding for example. Same for lots of plucked sounds.

Zebra... this is a thin, light sound...
http://draigathar.org/sounds/evoltring.mp3

[zvenx]

Beautiful sound there.
rsp

[ddeez]

Dope sound my friend (can i buy that? Lol) Im glad u agree that diva is fuller. I understand what ur saying and agree with u, i just think its much easier to subtract from fullness then to add it. Thats one of the oldest pieces of engineering knowledge i know of

[Lee702]

Its even better to get it right at the source.

[Kaboom75]

What's Hive's price? I'm planning my christmas and birthday shopping list.

[recursive one]

Howard im not mainly interested in just filters. Im interested in overall quality of sound from every angle of the synth. Just the osc themselves sound much richer and fuller in diva then in zebra. With no extra fx etc. its very obvious to me. When i make the simplest of patches in diva and in zebra, diva sounds head and shoulders above the zebra patches in fullness etc. i'd be interested to know what urs thinks of this. I'd be amazed that u dont hear this difference. I know this isnt a scientific comparison but i think it proves my point: Listen to ur own presets that u created for both synths, the diva ones sound way better. The reason for that is the synth.

Zebra tends to sound thinner than Diva or, say, Sylenth, indeed, but this is not always bad. It often sounds very nice in a mix with "fatter" synths. Say, you have obese Diva bass and a thin Zebra pad on top of it - it all sounds nice together, both parts are clearly heard and mix does not sound cluttered.

Other thing is that Zebra offers too much flexibility, down to the oscillator level. If you don't known what you are doing, it's easier to make it sound bad than good by random tweaking.

Actually, the more mixing and arranging experience I get, the more I like Zebra.

[recursive one]

What's Hive's price? I'm planning my christmas and birthday shopping list.

http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic ... 8#p5915078

149 usd, 30% off introductory (may change)