Amplitube 2 Jimi Hendrix RELEASED this month!!!

[daGuru]

He he... I reckon Squids might have bitten off more than he can chew with the tone challenge... I'm really looking forward to this

[Hink]

Oh and then there is the PSA 1.1, which I have heard two things...

a) Closests to amp ever all the way to
b) Sounds get old quick...

Go figure...

You would think these huge developers would at least add a 12ax7 and one POWER TUBE and most of the subtleness of the gaining would be solved, although air still places a factor....but with Impulse Response...it should be workable.

Have a great idea for another invention too. Wonder how I should approach someone on this, such as Tascam, Mackie, Motu, Appogee?!

Obviously you don't know how tube amps achieve their sound...but that's okay because many companies have made a lot of money because people don't know the truth...forget the power tube, you'll blow out your input..as for a 12ax7...well, in order for a pre-amp to produce that tube like distortion it needs atleast two pre-amp tubes. The technical reasons are fairly complicated and I'm sure a techie could explain it better...but adding one tube is 99% for show...if they had added one tube I would of called it a toy...

EDIT as for the impulses....too much cpu useage imo

[Melodioso]

... that means this thread could go on forever!!!!!! I don't know if I can stay interested for much longer though.

I sometimes got the feeling this thread would have died a long time ago, if it wasn't for your posts and comments. I am not saying this in a bad way. For example, after the mp3 demos were finally released, it almost came to a stop. Maybe the people didn't find that they sounded so great, I don't know. But for sure your enthusiasm makes us want to believe

Probably a thread where people really want to talk about AmpliTube 2...

How could we do that?!? The product is not even released! All we are talking about is our high expectations and desires for a great pluggin... and you know what the problem is when the customer expectation is so high. After your comments, we all expect it to be astounding, not less. At least, I do.

...(and actually want to hear about why it is great)

I will let my ears be the judge of that, thank you.

In case AT2 is actually awesome (which I truly hope), what would be the "best" way to hook it up to play live? Through a regular amp, or through dedicated PA (meaning instead of having an amp on stage, you got for ex. something like Mackies's SA 1521z)? Since a cab emulation is already there, there should be no need to re-run the signal again through an amp+cab, no? Full range speaker would be better, or am I wrong?

[Beardedone]

One of the things I may do when we come up for air at SR is have a little thing in the SR forum where you post a small clip from a tune and challenge me or other AT2 users to "get THAT sound". Wouldn't that be fun? We should do that with SS2 and Studiophonik as well (when it is out). I need to hire some more people so we can do more things like that.

OK Guess what sound I would ask for, Dave? Hint (as if it's needed): it's from a Lyle Mays Synclavier solo in a well know PMG tne.............

[Len]

A tone challenge for Squids is silly. Half the tone (if not more) comes straight from the way the guitar is played by the player. Its the fingaz mate, if you haven't got the fingaz, don't bitch about the tone you can't get!

[Lunch Money]

Listening to "Guitar Port is better than the Pod is better than GR is better than Amplitube is better than Guitar Port" is tiring!!!!

That wouldn't happen, because Guitar Port's tones are identical to the POD's (for the amp models that both share). As are the TonePort's.



Just being pedantic...

Greg

[beergeek]

Get me the John Sykes Blue Murder tone and I'll take back everything I said about AT-2 (and I'll buy it):D

Jeff

I don't see how you could "take it back" if that was your honest impression. It either was or it wasn't. I have no idea who you are or what your motives may be in slamming AT2 and IK's presentation at NAMM (which was probably a highlight for most show walkers in that HALL). It is situations like this where I wish I would have met you in person at the show and even been there when you were listening to AT2 so I could fully understand. But that's be idealistic. So, I accept that not everyone, for whatever their reason, is going to like it and that due to the anonymous nature of this forum the diversity of reasons is even greater than just the regular pool of potential customers.

That said, I would love nothing more than to think you or anyone COULD be convinced it is the right thing for you so I would take your challenge to get that sound. Why not? I am more about the fun side of all this stuff anyway. I think that all of the tools mentioned in this thread can deliver something great for your music and I just happen to gravitate heavily toward this one. With this collection of amps and effects you can do a lot! So, we'll do that and see.

Okay, back on a plane. Bye!

That's a little harsh...Jeff never slammed AT2, he just said he wasn't impressed and that it sounded thin and fizzy. In the same post, he said that GR2 sounded better to HIS ears but he wasn't impressed by it either.

If he can get the tone he's looking for, then he will change his mind...that wasn't a tone he thought possible with AT2...his sig links to his music and who he is...well, he's a pretty good songwriter/guitarist (IMO) and represents the demographic for AT2

Me, I happen to like AT and the demos I've heard for AT2 and honestly, I bought AT1 just to get AT2 for the price of my upgrade cost from LE to AT1...and I bought it because I trust your ears. I'm also pretty confident that you would be pretty silent if you thought it just wasn't very good.

Like you said, everybody is gonna hear it differently and it either does it or doesn't. That said, it's also about how good somebody is at USING the software or hardware. I have a buddy who has tons of hardware and he does some amazing stuff with it. I couldn't even begin to comprehend how to do what he does with it. On the other hand, he's totally lost looking at my computer screen.

So Jeff, first get a John Sykes LP...then I think you can do this in AT2 to attempt it at least....

First instance is 2 amps with dual recto pre's and 100w 6l6's...nothing else, second instance is 2 solid states (gotta get up to 400 watts somehow) wah, rack delay and rack reverb and the cabs would be 2 Vintage 4X12 cl (which I assume stands for classic lead celestions) which should be close to greenbacks. Set the delay to around 350ms and play with the verb and wah.

This kinda thing is EXACTLY why I like how AT2 is setup BUT setting it up this way ain't necessarily make me sound like John Sykes during the Blue Murder days because a lot of his tone comes from his playing style!

You on the other hand, might be able to pull it off

--rob

[Guitarjeff]

Get me the John Sykes Blue Murder tone and I'll take back everything I said about AT-2 (and I'll buy it):D

Jeff

I don't see how you could "take it back" if that was your honest impression. It either was or it wasn't. I have no idea who you are or what your motives may be in slamming AT2 and IK's presentation at NAMM (which was probably a highlight for most show walkers in that HALL). It is situations like this where I wish I would have met you in person at the show and even been there when you were listening to AT2 so I could fully understand. But that's be idealistic. So, I accept that not everyone, for whatever their reason, is going to like it and that due to the anonymous nature of this forum the diversity of reasons is even greater than just the regular pool of potential customers.

That said, I would love nothing more than to think you or anyone COULD be convinced it is the right thing for you so I would take your challenge to get that sound. Why not? I am more about the fun side of all this stuff anyway. I think that all of the tools mentioned in this thread can deliver something great for your music and I just happen to gravitate heavily toward this one. With this collection of amps and effects you can do a lot! So, we'll do that and see.

Okay, back on a plane. Bye!

I don't have any motives at all. I was giving my honest impression, which you seem to dispute. I could maybe not take back what I said, but I have an open mind. Maybe the presets are so-so and it is capable of much more. I'd like nothing more than to have a tool like this that sounds great and fits my needs. I'm your target audience for this if it were as great as you say. I record guitar pretty much every day and I make records for my band and others. I'd pay twice as much for something that's as good as you are describing this to be. Unfortunately, that was not the impression I got by trying it out at NAMM and listening to the demos.

Prove me wrong and I'll buy the product and give my full endorsement.

I know sound is subjective, but I've been doing this lomg enough to know what sounds like an amp and what doesn't. I haven't heard ANY amp sim that does as of yet. GR-2 comes the closest to my ears at the present time, but I won't use it for anything major either.

When an amp sim sounds good enough to use for rock rhythm guitars on a prefessional recording, I'll use it constantly. I'd like nothing more than to be able to record like this.

Cheers!

Jeff

[daGuru]

@Jeff:

100% agree

(fuckin' goddam page breaks!!!!)

[MickGael]

If this has already been asked recently (please forgive all 150-plus pages):

I did read that AmpliTube v2 is supposed to ship in February. My question is: is there a sense of when in February? And does Squids have a sense of when copies might start to ship from esoundz?

Thanks!

[daGuru]

I don't have any motives at all. I was giving my honest impression, which you seem to dispute. I could maybe not take back what I said, but I have an open mind. Maybe the presets are so-so and it is capable of much more. I'd like nothing more than to have a tool like this that sounds great and fits my needs. I'm your target audience for this if it were as great as you say. I record guitar pretty much every day and I make records for my band and others. I'd pay twice as much for something that's as good as you are describing this to be. Unfortunately, that was not the impression I got by trying it out at NAMM and listening to the demos.

Prove me wrong and I'll buy the product and give my full endorsement.

I know sound is subjective, but I've been doing this lomg enough to know what sounds like an amp and what doesn't. I haven't heard ANY amp sim that does as of yet. GR-2 comes the closest to my ears at the present time, but I won't use it for anything major either.

When an amp sim sounds good enough to use for rock rhythm guitars on a prefessional recording, I'll use it constantly. I'd like nothing more than to be able to record like this.

Cheers!

Jeff

Everyone who agrees, let's all quote this until this thread is so bloated it explodes

At which point, we start the new "Amp Emulation Tone Wars" thread

[Meffy]

Mick: I believe the most recent word is "probably late in February rather than early."

[daGuru]

@Squids:

My first tone request, should be an easy one... no metal for starters, just good 'ole hard rock.... Slash - Sweet Child 'O Mine

[Beardedone]

For a guitar tones I want Mike Stern's clean and overdriven sounds on "Little Shoes". I can find them easily with my VAMP, so it should be terribly tough

[Hink]

@Squids:

My first tone request, should be an easy one... no metal for starters, just good 'ole hard rock.... Slash - Sweet Child 'O Mine

what's hard about that tone, surely you can get that out of many things...btw when that came out I think many considered it metal, not by todays standards though...