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About Buddha, he never made a statement on the existence or non-existence of God(s). He was trying to give a foundation from which that realization could occur. How can a buch of corrupt, neurotic, selfish, dysfunctional idiots even begin to fathom God even if he spoke directly to them? Look how Jews argure over the Torrah? Look at all the sects and divisions in every major religion.

Anyway, Buddha's teaching were pretty agnostic. You don't have to be a theist or atheist to benefit from them. You could even be a Christian of course Christianity probably wouldn't agree). He was something like a psychiatrist.
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braj wrote: Some groups have deified Buddha and turned it into a religion. In the same way I believe people deified Christ,
One of the popes at about 700A.D. deified christ which basically turned the teaching on its head, so in actual fact all modern christians are based on something called mythralism (or something like that).

The irony is that satanism which teachs self interest (god is self etc..) is closer to the original teachings of Christ than the person who calls themselves Christian today. :o :nutter:

I tell you its all gone crazy.. trying to find the truth is pretty difficult.
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IIRs wrote:
braj wrote: Some groups have deified Buddha and turned it into a religion.
.. but that bit worries me ;)
Yeah, but just because you take a class where other people get F's doesn't mean you can't get an A. Just because some people misunderstand doesn't mean you have to.
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braj wrote:
I tell you its all gone crazy.. trying to find the truth is pretty difficult.
No doubt!
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djsubject wrote:
budda was a man ;)

& he took the good from all the books at the time (witch was more than we have now) & made Buddhism!

a beuatfull releigen that i studdyed when i was 16 & homeless in centrell london (i even chanted with the girl from allo allo that says "listen verry cearfully, i will say this only once") that chant "nam yo ho reng gay quo" (sorry again for shitty spelling) it means somthing like "i devote myselfe to the wonderfull truth" & teaches us that in this life we are our own god
Well, if that is what you believe still then we have no argument :hug:

I worry however, that when you talk about "trying to walk with god" you send the wrong message: some young kid that respects you might mis-interpret that as endorsment of organised religion, and end up brain-washed by the wrong people..

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Here's what I have learned from this thread:

Flangers are like god. When I need one, it is nowhere to be found.

I guess I'll become an atheist, and use no effects at all. :wink:

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Great link braj, thanks :D

“In general, higher rates of belief in and worship of a creator correlate with higher rates of homicide, juvenile and early adult mortality, STD infection rates, teen pregnancy and abortion in the prosperous democracies."

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okay guys time to play "spiritual tetris" take all of your boxed thoughts and create "lines". Once the lines are connected, you will be one step towards enlightenment. If you get a tetris (5 lines of all your boxed thoughts fitting together) you will be rewarded with spiritual "points" where you can find a path to the true tracktion flanger

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Of all the world's religions, I have the most affinity for Buddhism, which should be no surprise. I just don't like that it's become a systemized religion.

Sure, you're able to pursue your own path to enlightenment, but does that make you a Buddhist? Do most westerners understand the abandoning of self that's required for the brand of enlightenment encouraged by Buddha? We all have a Buddha nature, but it's mighty difficult to adopt an eastern approach to a universal ideal. Buddha himself might agree that I'm better off with the path I've chosen. On the other hand, he would CERTAINLY agree that I'm still far too materialistic to ever hope for the kind of enlightenment he found. ;)

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rpc9943 wrote:okay guys time to play "spiritual tetris" take all of your boxed thoughts and create "lines". Once the lines are connected, you will be one step towards enlightenment. If you get a tetris (5 lines of all your boxed thoughts fitting together) you will be rewarded with spiritual "points" where you can find a path to the true tracktion flanger

Full Circlin'

RONC
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Sounds like fun! Can we sing hymns that are as catchy as the original tetris (gameboy version) tunes?

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ron ... NOTHING is that simple ... especially not THIS ...

greg ... you must have done surely but ever looked at taoism ???

slainte ;) rob

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dude screw bhudda and all that he was boxed too

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RONC

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boxes ... spirals ... circles ... make your fukcing mind up ...

... dodecahdrons next ???

slainte :hihi: rob

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slainte :shock: rob

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THATS what im talking about-- except they have boundaries. nothing should have boundaries our minds have been taught to have that, imagine those shapes being akin to swirling water, or smoke, or tree branches, with no border but growing larger each time that is God's order. We see that shape everywhere, call it whatever you wish but I call it this. That is the key behind everything. Just thought of that a few weeks ago on the bus.

ahem.

ROnC

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