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jens · Post by **jens** » Wed Oct 09, 2019 3:18 pm

In August they sold the full 2.1 for 149$ (I just checked their promo-mails from back then) - pretty obvious that when getting this deal you don't qualify for a free upgrade, no?

Calenberger · Post by **Calenberger** » Wed Oct 09, 2019 4:25 pm

Some guys can't get enough:

Vintage73 · Post by **Vintage73** » Wed Oct 09, 2019 5:09 pm

jens wrote: Wed Oct 09, 2019 3:18 pm In August they sold the full 2.1 for 149$ (I just checked their promo-mails from back then) - pretty obvious that when getting this deal you don't qualify for a free upgrade, no?

As I said, I saw that someone had purchased on the 9th of Aug and got a free upgrade, so I figured, why not ask?

No harm in that, is there?

I will say that before I even heard they had a grace period at all I was more than happy with a $200 upgrade price for $1000 software. I've seen much worse over the years.

If I don't qualify (which I probably won't), I have no issue paying for the upgrade once I can.

Greed has nothing to do with it.

As far as features, I'm liking the preview vids I've seen. I'm not able to test it on my own computer as, for some reason, the brand-new trial I just downloaded is listed as "Expired" in my account. Ummmmm...

jens · Post by **jens** » Wed Oct 09, 2019 6:12 pm

I did not call you greedy (or anything else for that matter).

If true that someone who had purchased it on August 9th was eligible for a free upgrade, that person somehow/for some reason most probably had purchased 2.1 for its normal price.

Edit: fixed messed up sentence...

Vintage73 · Post by **Vintage73** » Wed Oct 09, 2019 6:54 pm

jens wrote: Wed Oct 09, 2019 6:12 pm I did not call you greedy (or anything else for that matter).

If true that someone who had purchased in on August 9th for a free upgrade, that person somehow/for some reason most probably had purchased 2.1 for its normal price.

Sorry, that last bit was aimed at the videos posted.

Anyway, I got my reply. I'll live with and be satisfied with their response.

Oh, and I was able to resolve my trial issue, as well, so I'll be able to check it out for myself.

Harry_HH · Post by **Harry_HH** » Thu Oct 10, 2019 12:25 am

How do you find the Ozone 9 GUI?
For me its visually a step backwards from the Ozone 8. Its too black, not that intuitive than the ve.8, even
the resolution appears lower in the ver. 9. Is this the price of scalability? Ver. 9 includes new feature, but
do these leave partly unused, because the bad GUI implementation?
Ozone 9 appears to me like a hasty together slapped version of the ver. 8, in a word incomplete - too busy to launch the
product, iZotope?

I wish, that we get the ver. 9.1 soon, where the plugin in completed.

EnochLight · Post by **EnochLight** » Thu Oct 10, 2019 12:33 am

Harry_HH wrote: Thu Oct 10, 2019 12:25 am How do you find the Ozone 9 GUI?
For me its visually a step backwards from the Ozone 8. Its too black, not that intuitive than the ve.8, even
the resolution appears lower in the ver. 9. Is this the price of scalability? Ver. 9 includes new feature, but
do these leave partly unused, because the bad GUI implementation?
Ozone 9 appears to me like a hasty together slapped version of the ver. 8, in a word incomplete - too busy to launch the
product, iZotope?

I wish, that we get the ver. 9.1 soon, where the plugin in completed.

For the most part, Ozone 9 looks noticeably better to my eyes, especially when going full screen (currently on a 1080p monitor). And the metering is very noticeably better - very smooth compared to version 8. But I actually prefer the waveform scroll on Ozone 8 much more - the color on 9 looks too muted/dingy.

Harry_HH · Post by **Harry_HH** » Thu Oct 10, 2019 1:12 am

EnochLight wrote: Thu Oct 10, 2019 12:33 am
Harry_HH wrote: Thu Oct 10, 2019 12:25 am How do you find the Ozone 9 GUI?
For me its visually a step backwards from the Ozone 8. Its too black, not that intuitive than the ve.8, even
the resolution appears lower in the ver. 9. Is this the price of scalability? Ver. 9 includes new feature, but
do these leave partly unused, because the bad GUI implementation?
Ozone 9 appears to me like a hasty together slapped version of the ver. 8, in a word incomplete - too busy to launch the
product, iZotope?

I wish, that we get the ver. 9.1 soon, where the plugin in completed.
For the most part, Ozone 9 looks noticeably better to my eyes, especially when going full screen (currently on a 1080p monitor). And the metering is very noticeably better - very smooth compared to version 8. But I actually prefer the waveform scroll on Ozone 8 much more - the color on 9 looks too muted/dingy.

Interesting. So far I have used the ver. 9 only in my laptop, and I can't agree with you. Even the scalable UI is incomplete in the way, that the minimum size of the UI is restricted too big for the laptop optimal resolution (HP Omen). And the overal resolution of the plugin is considerably worse than ver. 8.
The additional number information-panel in the lower part of the Eq UI is badly implemented. And where are the other Eq tools, which I find in my ver. 8 left side? Etc.
These are first impressions.

Caine123 · Post by **Caine123** » Thu Oct 10, 2019 2:23 pm

Hey guys it seems with musical balance you can only! Balance 1 of the options? Only bass or vocals or drums.... the slider is set the same if you switch the element?

jochicago · Post by **jochicago** » Thu Oct 10, 2019 5:10 pm

Caine123 wrote: Thu Oct 10, 2019 2:23 pm Hey guys it seems with musical balance you can only! Balance 1 of the options? Only bass or vocals or drums.... the slider is set the same if you switch the element?

Yes, but nothing stops you from opening another instance of the plugin.
I suspect they know that the more you use it, particularly if you stack them, the more the audio gets mangled and it will be noticeable. So they probably recommend using it only once. But you can always try another Ozone and see what it sounds like, should be fine if you just touch up a couple DB.

EnochLight · Post by **EnochLight** » Thu Oct 10, 2019 5:33 pm

I reported the bug to support where you are unable to resize plugin windows when running Ozone 9 Advanced in standalone mode (this applies to their own Insight 2 - which the whole point of updating that was to have a resizable window - as well as any other plugin).

This has been a bug present since Ozone 8 standalone as far as I can tell - possibly earlier. Their response?

It's not a bug, it's a feature that has not been implemented yet.

F'ing iZotope, man. Sometimes they just piss me off.

Caine123 · Post by **Caine123** » Thu Oct 10, 2019 5:34 pm

jochicago wrote: Thu Oct 10, 2019 5:10 pm
Caine123 wrote: Thu Oct 10, 2019 2:23 pm Hey guys it seems with musical balance you can only! Balance 1 of the options? Only bass or vocals or drums.... the slider is set the same if you switch the element?
Yes, but nothing stops you from opening another instance of the plugin.
I suspect they know that the more you use it, particularly if you stack them, the more the audio gets mangled and it will be noticeable. So they probably recommend using it only once. But you can always try another Ozone and see what it sounds like, should be fine if you just touch up a couple DB.

I think they did it on purpose to enhance it for ozone 10 and or not counter with rx7.

matamoris · Post by **matamoris** » Fri Oct 11, 2019 1:39 pm

EnochLight wrote: Thu Oct 10, 2019 5:33 pm I reported the bug to support where you are unable to resize plugin windows when running Ozone 9 Advanced in standalone mode (this applies to their own Insight 2 - which the whole point of updating that was to have a resizable window - as well as any other plugin).

This has been a bug present since Ozone 8 standalone as far as I can tell - possibly earlier. Their response?

It's not a bug, it's a feature that has not been implemented yet.

F'ing iZotope, man. Sometimes they just piss me off.

Try this: In Ozone 9 standalone on a Mac, load an Ozone 9 plugin (not module) into the signal chain. Open it and try to resize the window. That's definitely a bug!

mcbpete · Post by **mcbpete** » Fri Oct 11, 2019 1:47 pm

EnochLight wrote: Mon Oct 07, 2019 11:06 pm
mcbpete wrote: Mon Oct 07, 2019 9:55 pm Yep, that's a definite bug there. Not just with Insight 2 either - Just tried AudioDamage Grind (also has a manually scaling GUI) and the scaling goes really really badly and if you resize the GUI below 100% then the resize tool completely vanishes
Well crap - this sucks. Thanks for confirming though!

Just got the below back from Izotope after sending the following screen capture:

This is normal, you won't be able to resize your plugin within the VST plugin window of the Ozone 9 standalone application. However, it does sound like a feature that should be added. I can submit that as a feature request for you, hopefully in the near future to feature will be implemented.

EnochLight · Post by **EnochLight** » Fri Oct 11, 2019 2:47 pm

matamoris wrote: Fri Oct 11, 2019 1:39 pm
EnochLight wrote: Thu Oct 10, 2019 5:33 pm I reported the bug to support where you are unable to resize plugin windows when running Ozone 9 Advanced in standalone mode (this applies to their own Insight 2 - which the whole point of updating that was to have a resizable window - as well as any other plugin).

This has been a bug present since Ozone 8 standalone as far as I can tell - possibly earlier. Their response?

It's not a bug, it's a feature that has not been implemented yet.

F'ing iZotope, man. Sometimes they just piss me off.
Try this: In Ozone 9 standalone on a Mac, load an Ozone 9 plugin (not module) into the signal chain. Open it and try to resize the window. That's definitely a bug!

Exactly!

mcbpete wrote: Fri Oct 11, 2019 1:47 pm Just got the below back from Izotope after sending the following screen capture:

This is normal, you won't be able to resize your plugin within the VST plugin window of the Ozone 9 standalone application. However, it does sound like a feature that should be added. I can submit that as a feature request for you, hopefully in the near future to feature will be implemented.

LMAO!!! I love how they claim it's a "feature request". Such BS. No, iZotope, it's a bug that should have been caught and ironed out during your Ozone 9 beta test. It's insulting that they're claiming this is a feature request.

Who wants to bet that this bug "feature request" isn't fixed "added" in a free 9.x point update...?

Coming Soon: Izotope Ozone 9