If you could have only one synth, what would you choose?

[_leras]

Yeah... Icarus is my favorite tool for resynthesis! Very flexible and with a bit of care can get outstanding results

It seems a very capable and great sounding synth.

I don't have any Tone 2 synths - would you say this supersedes their other synths?

(Just a shame about no modern modulation mapping just old school matrix...)

[whassup]

Also, Kontakt can’t actually make contact with aliens…or can it?!?

not aliens, but because of the spelling it will put you in touch with some germans.

To some non Germans we are basically aliens.

[chk071]

Ok, then recommend me a Kontakt library which is similar to what Sylenth1 does then.

Start with Fluidshell's Big Daddy with Moog Grandmother waveforms, free from pianobook. Then anything from Hideaway Studios who has such good taste, perhaps Orbitone 1/2 or Blue zone if you don't mind browsing. If you have 100GB free on your hard drive then a monster from Muze, like Aquamarine (Aqua Lite is free somewhere). And then go out of the box with a Sounddust creation like Orgone 2.

Why would I when I can use real synths?

[fmr]

Ok, then recommend me a Kontakt library which is similar to what Sylenth1 does then.

Start with Fluidshell's Big Daddy with Moog Grandmother waveforms, free from pianobook. Then anything from Hideaway Studios who has such good taste, perhaps Orbitone 1/2 or Blue zone if you don't mind browsing. If you have 100GB free on your hard drive then a monster from Muze, like Aquamarine (Aqua Lite is free somewhere). And then go out of the box with a Sounddust creation like Orgone 2.

Why would I when I can use real synths?

Because they are not more "real" than Kontakt, and Kontakt (or Falcon, or HALion for that matter) do a lot more than those "real synths".

[whyterabbyt]

everyone knows softsynths arent real.

[gaggle of hermits]

Ok, then recommend me a Kontakt library which is similar to what Sylenth1 does then.

Start with Fluidshell's Big Daddy with Moog Grandmother waveforms, free from pianobook. Then anything from Hideaway Studios who has such good taste, perhaps Orbitone 1/2 or Blue zone if you don't mind browsing. If you have 100GB free on your hard drive then a monster from Muze, like Aquamarine (Aqua Lite is free somewhere). And then go out of the box with a Sounddust creation like Orgone 2.

weird, i could have sworn the request was for similar to sylenth1 not random things you like.

[Michael L]

Ok, then recommend me a Kontakt library which is similar to what Sylenth1 does then.

Start with Fluidshell's Big Daddy with Moog Grandmother waveforms, free from pianobook. Then anything from Hideaway Studios who has such good taste, perhaps Orbitone 1/2 or Blue zone if you don't mind browsing. If you have 100GB free on your hard drive then a monster from Muze, like Aquamarine (Aqua Lite is free somewhere). And then go out of the box with a Sounddust creation like Orgone 2.

weird, i could have sworn the request was for similar to sylenth1 not random things you like

I see your mind is totally unable to imagine the possibility that those Kontakt libraries are similar to sylenth1.
Yet, it is true
My friend, prepare yourself for a vast unexplored sonic world . . .
https://soundcloud.com/hideaway-studio/ ... ome-to-the

[gaggle of hermits]

I see your mind is totally unable to imagine the possibility that those Kontakt libraries are similar to sylenth1.
Yet, it is true

well, a duck is similar to a chicken.

if you're in the market for sylenth, you are likely aiming for big unison sounds – which are not things that kontakt itself is great at, and particularly not a bunch of random pads libraries. maybe the odd bass in the grandmother sample library.

there are other choices that do sample that unison sound but none of them were in your list.

[whyterabbyt]

weird, i could have sworn the request was for similar to sylenth1 not random things you like.

weird, i could have sworn the debate was whether kontakt could sufficiently do what a synth does, not whether its similar to one specific synth.

but hey, moved goalposts, who woulda thunk?

[whyterabbyt]

I see your mind is totally unable to imagine the possibility that those Kontakt libraries are similar to sylenth1.
Yet, it is true

well, a duck is similar to a chicken.

and yet there seems to be some debate as to whether chicken can substitute for duck in a meal, on the basis of it not actually tasting sufficiently 'similar' to a Norfolk Crested Mallard.

[gaggle of hermits]

weird, i could have sworn the request was for similar to sylenth1 not random things you like.

weird, i could have sworn the debate was whether kontakt could sufficiently do what a synth does, not whether its similar to one specific synth.

but hey, moved goalposts, who woulda thunk?

the debate may well have been though the title of the entire thread suggests otherwise. i was just replying about a specific request that had been made – and some suggestions that didn't seem to make sense, especially when there are other libraries available that would get closer (notwithstanding the fact that unless things have changed recently kontakt largely relies on scripting to do unison stacking of a single oscillator, whereas it's a pretty fundamental component of sylenth and other synths of that ilk).

i haven't checked but i've got the feeling that falcon and halion will do the unison-stacking thing – my point wasn't about samplers in general, it's just one of those things that kontakt isn't or at least wasn't designed to do.

[fmr]

i haven't checked but i've got the feeling that falcon and halion will do the unison-stacking thing – my point wasn't about samplers in general, it's just one of those things that kontakt isn't or at least wasn't designed to do.

Yes, both of them do unison. Also, both of them have virtual oscillators, so they don't even need to reside in looped sample waveforms to perform the oscillation part. Falcon and HALion both go way beyond sampling and sample playback, for that matter.

That said, Kontakt can perform very well as a synth nevertheless, and also go way beyond sampling, although not as far as the other two.

[whyterabbyt]

the debate may well have been though the title of the entire thread suggests otherwise.

sorry, insufficent precision when phrasinge: the debate about kontakt, and that very specific moving of goalposts I mentioned.

notwithstanding the fact that unless things have changed recently kontakt largely relies on scripting to do unison stacking of a single oscillator, whereas it's a pretty fundamental component of sylenth and other synths of that ilk.
i haven't checked but i've got the feeling that falcon and halion will do the unison-stacking thing – my point wasn't about samplers in general,

it's just one of those things that kontakt isn't or at least wasn't designed to do.

true enough, but if someone (not meaning you, fwiw) was going to try and make the argument that kontakt couldnt be sufficiently considered a synth because it didnt have X feature of Y synth, then you could easily extend that to denying all synths from the category of synths.

[chk071]

Ok, then recommend me a Kontakt library which is similar to what Sylenth1 does then.

Start with Fluidshell's Big Daddy with Moog Grandmother waveforms, free from pianobook. Then anything from Hideaway Studios who has such good taste, perhaps Orbitone 1/2 or Blue zone if you don't mind browsing. If you have 100GB free on your hard drive then a monster from Muze, like Aquamarine (Aqua Lite is free somewhere). And then go out of the box with a Sounddust creation like Orgone 2.

weird, i could have sworn the request was for similar to sylenth1 not random things you like

I see your mind is totally unable to imagine the possibility that those Kontakt libraries are similar to sylenth1.
Yet, it is true
My friend, prepare yourself for a vast unexplored sonic world . . .
https://soundcloud.com/hideaway-studio/ ... ome-to-the

Actually, I was rather looking for a replacement for Sylenth1.

Are sampled instruments a replacement for you, when you can just use the real deal?

Are samplers and sampled instruments synths for you?

Is a sampled guitar a guitar? Is a sampled piano a piano? Is a piano library a piano?

[pdxindy]

Yeah... Icarus is my favorite tool for resynthesis! Very flexible and with a bit of care can get outstanding results

It seems a very capable and great sounding synth.

I don't have any Tone 2 synths - would you say this supersedes their other synths?

(Just a shame about no modern modulation mapping just old school matrix...)

You can drag-n-drop modulation in Icarus... and also adjust the depths on the knobs without using the Matrix. But if you have 2 plus modulators on the same parameter, then you need the Matrix.