I had a quick look through 'The State And Revolution', but it was full of stuff about 'the revolutionary vanguard' and suchlike. No mention of pitch correction.
Auto-Tune inventor Dr. Andy Hildebrand wins Grammy and celebrates with limited time promo price
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- Boss Lovin' DR
- 14312 posts since 15 Mar, 2002 from the grimness of yorkshire
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- KVRAF
- 2452 posts since 1 Jul, 2021
Doesn't comunism control the voice, people's 's words, no freedom of speech and if a voice doesn't adapt to the system, it will be corrected and tuned to the system' s key? _! And wouldn't they use a voice and its words against the system and tell the people fake news to hide the truth, use their propaganda tools as an effect, tune it to their likes, autotune it, autotune fake ?_!donkey tugger wrote: Fri Feb 10, 2023 6:02 amI had a quick look through 'The State And Revolution', but it was full of stuff about 'the revolutionary vanguard' and suchlike. No mention of pitch correction.![]()
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- Boss Lovin' DR
- 14312 posts since 15 Mar, 2002 from the grimness of yorkshire
I fear your grounding in political theory is a little shaky. Come and join us in HPC and I'd be happy to have a full and frank exchange of views on such matters.DCrown wrote: Fri Feb 10, 2023 6:15 amDoesn't comunism control the voice, people's 's words, no freedom of speech and if a voice doesn't adapt to the system, it will be corrected and tuned to the system' s key? _! And wouldn't they use a voice and its words against the system and tell the people fake news to hide the truth, use their propaganda tools as an effect, tune it to their likes, autotune it, autotune fake ?_!donkey tugger wrote: Fri Feb 10, 2023 6:02 amI had a quick look through 'The State And Revolution', but it was full of stuff about 'the revolutionary vanguard' and suchlike. No mention of pitch correction.![]()
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- KVRAF
- 2452 posts since 1 Jul, 2021
It's not about politics and you know it very well. Don't try to fake the fake.donkey tugger wrote: Fri Feb 10, 2023 6:26 amI fear your grounding in political theory is a little shaky. Come and join us in HPC and I'd be happy to have a full and frank exchange of views on such matters.DCrown wrote: Fri Feb 10, 2023 6:15 amDoesn't comunism control the voice, people's 's words, no freedom of speech and if a voice doesn't adapt to the system, it will be corrected and tuned to the system' s key? _! And wouldn't they use a voice and its words against the system and tell the people fake news to hide the truth, use their propaganda tools as an effect, tune it to their likes, autotune it, autotune fake ?_!donkey tugger wrote: Fri Feb 10, 2023 6:02 amI had a quick look through 'The State And Revolution', but it was full of stuff about 'the revolutionary vanguard' and suchlike. No mention of pitch correction.![]()
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It's about autotune!
And overpolishing and overuse.
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- Boss Lovin' DR
- 14312 posts since 15 Mar, 2002 from the grimness of yorkshire
Err, you were the one who was banging on about 'comunism' (sic).DCrown wrote: Fri Feb 10, 2023 6:28 amIt's not about politics and you know it very well. Don't try to fake the fake.donkey tugger wrote: Fri Feb 10, 2023 6:26 amI fear your grounding in political theory is a little shaky. Come and join us in HPC and I'd be happy to have a full and frank exchange of views on such matters.DCrown wrote: Fri Feb 10, 2023 6:15 amDoesn't comunism control the voice, people's 's words, no freedom of speech and if a voice doesn't adapt to the system, it will be corrected and tuned to the system' s key? _! And wouldn't they use a voice and its words against the system and tell the people fake news to hide the truth, use their propaganda tools as an effect, tune it to their likes, autotune it, autotune fake ?_!donkey tugger wrote: Fri Feb 10, 2023 6:02 amI had a quick look through 'The State And Revolution', but it was full of stuff about 'the revolutionary vanguard' and suchlike. No mention of pitch correction.![]()
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It's about autotune!
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- KVRAF
- 2452 posts since 1 Jul, 2021
Just to compare something, not to to start a political discussion. And you have just picked one word of my post, comunism is not what it's all about!donkey tugger wrote: Fri Feb 10, 2023 6:31 amErr, you were the one who was banging on about 'comunism' (sic).DCrown wrote: Fri Feb 10, 2023 6:28 amIt's not about politics and you know it very well. Don't try to fake the fake.donkey tugger wrote: Fri Feb 10, 2023 6:26 amI fear your grounding in political theory is a little shaky. Come and join us in HPC and I'd be happy to have a full and frank exchange of views on such matters.DCrown wrote: Fri Feb 10, 2023 6:15 amDoesn't comunism control the voice, people's 's words, no freedom of speech and if a voice doesn't adapt to the system, it will be corrected and tuned to the system' s key? _! And wouldn't they use a voice and its words against the system and tell the people fake news to hide the truth, use their propaganda tools as an effect, tune it to their likes, autotune it, autotune fake ?_!donkey tugger wrote: Fri Feb 10, 2023 6:02 amI had a quick look through 'The State And Revolution', but it was full of stuff about 'the revolutionary vanguard' and suchlike. No mention of pitch correction.![]()
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There's too little dust, too little originality, too little dirt, too little creativity and surprises in today's
music imo. This is my opinion!
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- Boss Lovin' DR
- 14312 posts since 15 Mar, 2002 from the grimness of yorkshire
I would perchance then suggest you steer away from lumpen-analytical, and simplistic and reductionist analogies and historicist inaccuracy about complex theoretical ideas.DCrown wrote: Fri Feb 10, 2023 6:34 am
Just to compare something, not to to start a political discussion. And you have just picked one word of my post, comunism is not what it's all about!
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- KVRAF
- 2452 posts since 1 Jul, 2021
You still try to fake the fake by pretending to think that I really think communism as a political system has taken over music business. Maybe try to find someone else and take him for a fool.donkey tugger wrote: Fri Feb 10, 2023 6:42 amI would perchance then suggest you steer away from lumpen-analytical, and simplistic and reductionist analogies and historicist inaccuracy about complex theoretical ideas.DCrown wrote: Fri Feb 10, 2023 6:34 am
Just to compare something, not to to start a political discussion. And you have just picked one word of my post, comunism is not what it's all about!
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- Boss Lovin' DR
- 14312 posts since 15 Mar, 2002 from the grimness of yorkshire
Cough;DCrown wrote: Fri Feb 10, 2023 6:46 amYou still try to fake the fake by pretending to think that I really think communism as a political system has taken over music business. Maybe try to find someone else and take him for a fool.donkey tugger wrote: Fri Feb 10, 2023 6:42 amI would perchance then suggest you steer away from lumpen-analytical, and simplistic and reductionist analogies and historicist inaccuracy about complex theoretical ideas.DCrown wrote: Fri Feb 10, 2023 6:34 am
Just to compare something, not to to start a political discussion. And you have just picked one word of my post, comunism is not what it's all about!
and simplistic and reductionist analogies
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- KVRAF
- 2452 posts since 1 Jul, 2021
Even your "cough" is obviously autotuned or was it a real cough? Loldonkey tugger wrote: Fri Feb 10, 2023 6:48 amCough;DCrown wrote: Fri Feb 10, 2023 6:46 amYou still try to fake the fake by pretending to think that I really think communism as a political system has taken over music business. Maybe try to find someone else and take him for a fool.donkey tugger wrote: Fri Feb 10, 2023 6:42 amI would perchance then suggest you steer away from lumpen-analytical, and simplistic and reductionist analogies and historicist inaccuracy about complex theoretical ideas.DCrown wrote: Fri Feb 10, 2023 6:34 am
Just to compare something, not to to start a political discussion. And you have just picked one word of my post, comunism is not what it's all about!
and simplistic and reductionist analogies
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- Boss Lovin' DR
- 14312 posts since 15 Mar, 2002 from the grimness of yorkshire
That would be an, "ah, ok I appreciate I've been spouting bollocks, but will obfuscate by a pitiful attempt at wit."
Thanks for popping in.
Thanks for popping in.
- KVRAF
- 25037 posts since 12 Jul, 2003 from West Caprazumia
Yes, and also for a number of reasons I find it much easier to sing to my own acoustic playing that to record to a full band arrangement... (I use acoustic guitar a lot to write my songs, so I know damn well the difference)SoftSynthLover99 wrote: Thu Feb 09, 2023 5:45 pmYep and at the same time if that artist is in the studio, they probably use some form of pitch correction. Not because they can’t sing but because it’s a modern tool that can be used to enhance the overall song.Scotty wrote: Thu Feb 09, 2023 4:06 pm Sometimes, I go to the open mic night and hear someone own the place with an acoustic guitar and a great vocal delivery. There is room for pure artistry and masterful musicianship. It is out there, you just need to find your tribe.
Bombadil wrote: Thu Feb 09, 2023 3:13 pm I will still maintain that artificially tuning vocals is different from other studio tricks like compression, reverb, delay, or using sample-based instruments. And given popular music's decline over the last 25 years or so, it is a symptom of a larger problem. I mean, there are studies out there that demonstrate how music has become far more homogeneous than it every was, and it is a trend. Lack of imagination and talent permeates the music industry. AT is, imo, just a symptom of that greater problem.
Yes, well-done pitch-correction is a craft that needs to be learned - one could as well blame the one who doesn't use it at all for being lazy and lacking skills.I’ve never heard a truly bad singer sound great just by using Auto Tune. It really does not work like that. T-Pain really made Auto Tune a thing, but guess what? He’s an ok singer as well without it (look up his Tiny Desk Concert).
And Auto Tune can be used like Melodyne as well to where the pitch correction is there but no noticeable difference in the singers tonal qualities appear.
Singing is much more than pitch. Power, dynamics and tone cannot be fixed with Auto Tune.
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- KVRAF
- 2206 posts since 16 Apr, 2004 from between my ears
then please stop with the gibberish about religion and politics. and germs and virus exposure.DCrown wrote: Fri Feb 10, 2023 6:28 amIt's not about politics and you know it very well. Don't try to fake the fake.donkey tugger wrote: Fri Feb 10, 2023 6:26 amI fear your grounding in political theory is a little shaky. Come and join us in HPC and I'd be happy to have a full and frank exchange of views on such matters.DCrown wrote: Fri Feb 10, 2023 6:15 amDoesn't comunism control the voice, people's 's words, no freedom of speech and if a voice doesn't adapt to the system, it will be corrected and tuned to the system' s key? _! And wouldn't they use a voice and its words against the system and tell the people fake news to hide the truth, use their propaganda tools as an effect, tune it to their likes, autotune it, autotune fake ?_!donkey tugger wrote: Fri Feb 10, 2023 6:02 amI had a quick look through 'The State And Revolution', but it was full of stuff about 'the revolutionary vanguard' and suchlike. No mention of pitch correction.![]()
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It's about autotune!
And overpolishing and overuse.
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- KVRAF
- 2452 posts since 1 Jul, 2021
Yes, indeed my complete post is about politics, it's one ironic sentence only.JamminFool wrote: Fri Feb 10, 2023 7:15 amthen please stop with the gibberish about religion and politics.DCrown wrote: Fri Feb 10, 2023 6:28 amIt's not about politics and you know it very well. Don't try to fake the fake.donkey tugger wrote: Fri Feb 10, 2023 6:26 amI fear your grounding in political theory is a little shaky. Come and join us in HPC and I'd be happy to have a full and frank exchange of views on such matters.DCrown wrote: Fri Feb 10, 2023 6:15 amDoesn't comunism control the voice, people's 's words, no freedom of speech and if a voice doesn't adapt to the system, it will be corrected and tuned to the system' s key? _! And wouldn't they use a voice and its words against the system and tell the people fake news to hide the truth, use their propaganda tools as an effect, tune it to their likes, autotune it, autotune fake ?_!donkey tugger wrote: Fri Feb 10, 2023 6:02 amI had a quick look through 'The State And Revolution', but it was full of stuff about 'the revolutionary vanguard' and suchlike. No mention of pitch correction.![]()
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It's about autotune!
And overpolishing and overuse.
I agree, how could I dare lol
If someone doesn't know what an apple is,
just give him a pear and tell him it's more or less an apple lol
Sorry, I won't join your attempt to start a political discussion!
