Initiative to help the less fortunate obtain legit software and help spread the love. Seriously.

[ObsoleteAcc99]

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[glokraw]

Why not start a new monthly "Freeware host challenge" ?

Competitors would be only allowed to use some exotic little hosts with only free plugins to make songs.

I think it would be pretty interesting to create something in Minihost or VSThost.

It would also show every newbie that you don't need to pirate Nuendo or Pro Tools to become a musician.

If noone dont need it , why a lot of people works on them? They just want to throw money?

May be a newbie wants to be producer and good sound engineer?

or may be wants to be great electronic and trance producer ?

Can you show me a producer who uses except FL,Cubase,Pro tools or nuendo,Logic

May be a newbie wants to work on studios in the future ?
When they will ask " do you know use Pro Tools,Cubase or Nuendo "

Show me a professional studio who uses only basic DAW or what else.

There are always closeouts on cheap maudio hardware with an non-upgradeable
version of Pro-tools included. Upgradeable versions are extra $$$
Usually the closeouts are at $40-$80 range depending on the
hardware. A cheap way to see if P-T is to your liking. And you keep the hardware
either way.

There are studios and producers who work in one daw, and then import
the work into P-T for the customer to see it is really 'pro'.

[Kriminal]

yes freeware is great. We don't need anything else. That's why we don't spend money on things here. WHat a load of complete and utter B U L L S H I T.

so the ones saying if they can;t afford it they can have freeware, great attitude, NOT.

I'll try make it clear again. I want to help those who can;t afford what the many of us here have, so they have the same chance at us and same tools that they could otherwise never own.

your getiing a bit hot under the collar mate, chillax

the point is valid, freeware is very capable, you dont have to spend a lot of money to make music, and if you learn your craft well and are serious about music, you can do it with freeware

the point is, the tools are there and they are free, you dont have to 'steal' software to be able to make music. sure, expensive options are there if you can afford them, if you cant, use workarounds

i think the initiative may have the opposite efect, because you are, in a roundabout way, saying that you need better tools to make 'good' music. the warez scene is basically ppl who grab all the 'best' expensive' stuff cos they think using that makes them sound like X/Y/Z artist

talent is the key, and passion

tho im stll not sure if you are just trying to help poor ppl or stop warez

[DreamTrance]

you dont have to spend a lot of money to make music,

Good joke

[Meffy]

you dont have to spend a lot of money to make music,

Good joke

No joke, he's telling the truth. What you put into your music is at least as important as what you put your music into.

It doesn't hurt to have commercial software, but if you're determined and willing to learn you can make do without.

[xamido]

you dont have to spend a lot of money to make music,

Good joke

You want cubase fine. But i don't get your obsession about expensive program to make music. I offer you reaper right here right now just to stop you from focusing on the software price and you can use reaper instead which a decent host by itself. I cannot help with those expensive daw though.

[ObsoleteAcc99]

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[DreamTrance]

you dont have to spend a lot of money to make music,

Good joke

You want cubase fine. But i don't get your obsession about expensive program to make music. I offer you reaper right here right now just to stop you from focusing on the software price and you can use reaper instead which a decent host by itself. I cannot help with those expensive daw though.

ok .for example a person has really talent to make music as Armin Van Buuren ,Tiesto . What can help to make sound quality as them , if person is not beginner . Ok they use at least Logic ,Virus IT,many syntheizer.. and at least this person need good software , this is my thoughts .

So why dont they use freeware , you'll say that they have have money , it cant be reason.

ok i'm agree DAw is not important,i know it . At least we can say " not important" between Cubase,Logic,Pro Tools or this arena.

[davidka]

nvm

[DreamTrance]

You're offered a reaper license.

No

[ObsoleteAcc99]

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[DreamTrance]

you mean no you don't want it or no you didn't realise someone offered it to you?

If someone was offering to buy it for you, and you are student, why not do the 50/50 match thing that Meffy suggested, and buy academic cubase 6 artist? That is around $150 i think and has almost everything from the full cubase 6.

Dear TTOZ , Really i didnt see any suggest about academic Cubase 6 artist . You mean that it is " Cubase Artist 6 Education " ?

[trimph1]

Well, I, for one, can see why someone might have an issue with one DAW over another.

The thing here is that there is a lot of marketing clout on the side of Cubase, a lot of professional houses have been using it, or Nuendo, for a few years now. So it does not surprise me that it would get this kind of attention from someone there.

@DreamTrance: I have both Reaper and Cubase myself, and, quite frankly, I have been using Reaper a lot more than Cubase as it seems to be a lot more stable on my laptop vs Cubase. I'd be more interested in stability right from the get go here. Another thing is that there are a number of other DAWs that hae a lot to offer in terms of that stability. I'd be thinking about stability first vs all the marketing speak that is thrown around about some of the bigger DAWs...check the thing out...

[Gamma-UT]

you dont have to spend a lot of money to make music,

Good joke

You want cubase fine. But i don't get your obsession about expensive program to make music. I offer you reaper right here right now just to stop you from focusing on the software price and you can use reaper instead which a decent host by itself. I cannot help with those expensive daw though.

ok .for example a person has really talent to make music as Armin Van Buuren ,Tiesto . What can help to make sound quality as them , if person is not beginner . Ok they use at least Logic ,Virus IT,many syntheizer.. and at least this person need good software , this is my thoughts .

"If I really look at the essential stuff that we use, it's all about ES1, ES2 and EXS24, and that's it! It's so amazing what you can do with stuff like that" - Armin van Buuren, Sound on Sound 2009

Van Buuren has a studio full of gear because he can, not because he needs it for what he does.

Those three synths in Logic are perfectly good but there are excellent freeware alternatives such as the TAL stuff that are available now. And hosts in this class, in which I include Cubase and Reaper, have a perfectly good set of built-in audio processing plugins. Certainly good enough that they do not demand a user drop, say €150 on an EQ like Pro-Q.

[trimph1]

you mean no you don't want it or no you didn't realise someone offered it to you?

If someone was offering to buy it for you, and you are student, why not do the 50/50 match thing that Meffy suggested, and buy academic cubase 6 artist? That is around $150 i think and has almost everything from the full cubase 6.

Dear TTOZ , Really i didnt see any suggest about academic Cubase 6 artist . You mean that it is " Cubase Artist 6 Education " ?

That would be the academic version of that..yes.