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alexekki wrote: Tue Nov 08, 2022 10:55 pm Can we stop adding betas to the database? (e.g. Sylenth1, Relab LX480)

Most users don't really care about betas and only want to install actual release versions.

But once the beta is added to the database, you don't get notified of the actual release version in the recent updates section anymore.
Relab LX480 is no longer in beta.

The only betas that have been added are ones that are publicly available to all existing users. The version listed in the database just represents the first publicly available version to support Apple Silicon natively.
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I will continue to add betas.

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revvy wrote: Tue Nov 08, 2022 11:50 pm
alexekki wrote: Tue Nov 08, 2022 10:55 pm Can we stop adding betas to the database? (e.g. Sylenth1, Relab LX480)

Most users don't really care about betas and only want to install actual release versions.

But once the beta is added to the database, you don't get notified of the actual release version in the recent updates section anymore.
I’m not gonna stop adding betas as welcomed as the Sylenth one to an open thread on a free internet forum, in the appropriate thread.

I’m not asking for it to be added to a database. If somebody searches this thread they’ll find it, which is what I do.

Unless they’ve already muted me, which you’re free to do if you want.
why are you feeling the need for this reply to my post? it didn't address you. i was talking about teilo's database, not about this thread. you can post here in this thread whatever you want and nobody suggested you couldn't, so your post is completely unnecessary.
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JonathanLevine wrote: Tue Nov 08, 2022 11:29 pm Shouldn’t really make a difference. Most of the betas are completely usable with minimal bugs anyway. The point of the website is to show what plug-ins have native support and the version when that comes, beta or not.
yeah but only a subset of users care about betas while everybody cares about the release version. i don't know whether you use plugins for fun or in a professional context, but if you use your machine to do work for clients, you'd never install a beta version of anything. can't take that risk. the release version is what matters.

anyways, seems i'm in the minority with this opinion, so i'll leave it at that :ud:

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alexekki wrote: Wed Nov 09, 2022 6:17 pm
JonathanLevine wrote: Tue Nov 08, 2022 11:29 pm Shouldn’t really make a difference. Most of the betas are completely usable with minimal bugs anyway. The point of the website is to show what plug-ins have native support and the version when that comes, beta or not.
yeah but only a subset of users care about betas while everybody cares about the release version. i don't know whether you use plugins for fun or in a professional context, but if you use your machine to do work for clients, you'd never install a beta version of anything. can't take that risk. the release version is what matters.

anyways, seems i'm in the minority with this opinion, so i'll leave it at that :ud:
Alright and once again, it’s not what people “care” about. The point of the website is to show what plug-ins have native support for Apple silicon and the version when that comes, beta or not.

The guy running the website takes time out of his day to add plug-ins to the database to benefit and inform the rest of us. He can run it how he desires and I, along with just about everybody else have no problem whatsoever in betas being added to the database if that’s when Apple silicon support for a certain plug-in arrives. No one is forcing you to use a beta version of a plug-in, you can ignore it and wait for a “stable” release if you want.

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Enough. There is nothing to argue about here, and there was never a chance I wouldn't continue to add betas.
Take it to DMs.

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yes. please take it to DM's. get a room, you two..

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alexekki wrote: Wed Nov 09, 2022 6:17 pm
JonathanLevine wrote: Tue Nov 08, 2022 11:29 pm Shouldn’t really make a difference. Most of the betas are completely usable with minimal bugs anyway. The point of the website is to show what plug-ins have native support and the version when that comes, beta or not.

yeah but only a subset of users care about betas while everybody cares about the release version. i don't know whether you use plugins for fun or in a professional context, but if you use your machine to do work for clients, you'd never install a beta version of anything. can't take that risk. the release version is what matters.

anyways, seems i'm in the minority with this opinion, so i'll leave it at that :ud:
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JonathanLevine wrote: Tue Nov 08, 2022 9:31 pm
teilo wrote: Tue Nov 08, 2022 8:37 pm
JonathanLevine wrote: Tue Nov 08, 2022 3:22 pm Auto-Tune Pro from Antares isn’t going to get updated for Apple silicon according to their support team, despite the fact they’re still charging almost $500 for it. They said to look out for Auto-Tune Pro X which will have native support upon release.

And with that news, I won’t be buying another thing from that company again!

Edit: Looks like it’s out now, what are the chances it comes out right after I post this comment!?
Auto-Tune Pro X is just the next version of Auto-Tune Pro after 9. It's not a new product. Yes, you will have to pay for an upgrade to v10, just like you paid for an upgrade to v9. I hear it's $175. Yeah, it sucks they didn't offer v9 native for existing owners, especially since this doesn't look like that significant of an upgrade. Supposedly they do offer a lock-in free update for those who purchased v9 within a given window.

In any case, they did update Auto-Tune Pro. It's not unusual for developers to wait till the next major release to add support, like Steinberg did with Cubase 12.
Well the most annoying part of it all is that they didn't update their former flagship product with native support when they should have. They updated every single other one of their products months ago, and left out V9 purposefully so they could use native Apple silicon support on their new flagship product as a way to entice people to upgrade. Never mind the fact that they decided to increase their perpetual license products' prices by 20% over the summer to try and make them so unreasonably priced that they trick you into thinking that their subscription model is actually a good deal.

I liked V9 but no way in hell I'm paying that amount of money to upgrade to X. bx_crispytuner seems like a good alternative, but Plug-In Alliance doesn't seem like they plan on giving native support to that plug-in anytime soon and other than that one I only have like 7 plug-ins left that aren't native yet (all or most of which come from Native Instruments, of course).

Oh well.
Hello JonathanLevine, and thank you for sharing. We checked our system and we see you have reached out to our team. We will escalate your ticket and make sure we help you out with any questions and plugin concerns.

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Antares Support wrote: Thu Nov 10, 2022 5:22 pm Hello JonathanLevine, and thank you for sharing. We checked our system and we see you have reached out to our team. We will escalate your ticket and make sure we help you out with any questions and plugin concerns.
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teilo wrote: Thu Nov 10, 2022 6:01 pm LOL. The Antares social media team was activated.
:hihi:
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Quick Robin! To the Antares cave. Someone in KVR City needs our help.

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Antares Support wrote: Thu Nov 10, 2022 5:22 pm
JonathanLevine wrote: Tue Nov 08, 2022 9:31 pm
teilo wrote: Tue Nov 08, 2022 8:37 pm
JonathanLevine wrote: Tue Nov 08, 2022 3:22 pm Auto-Tune Pro from Antares isn’t going to get updated for Apple silicon according to their support team, despite the fact they’re still charging almost $500 for it. They said to look out for Auto-Tune Pro X which will have native support upon release.

And with that news, I won’t be buying another thing from that company again!

Edit: Looks like it’s out now, what are the chances it comes out right after I post this comment!?
Auto-Tune Pro X is just the next version of Auto-Tune Pro after 9. It's not a new product. Yes, you will have to pay for an upgrade to v10, just like you paid for an upgrade to v9. I hear it's $175. Yeah, it sucks they didn't offer v9 native for existing owners, especially since this doesn't look like that significant of an upgrade. Supposedly they do offer a lock-in free update for those who purchased v9 within a given window.

In any case, they did update Auto-Tune Pro. It's not unusual for developers to wait till the next major release to add support, like Steinberg did with Cubase 12.
Well the most annoying part of it all is that they didn't update their former flagship product with native support when they should have. They updated every single other one of their products months ago, and left out V9 purposefully so they could use native Apple silicon support on their new flagship product as a way to entice people to upgrade. Never mind the fact that they decided to increase their perpetual license products' prices by 20% over the summer to try and make them so unreasonably priced that they trick you into thinking that their subscription model is actually a good deal.

I liked V9 but no way in hell I'm paying that amount of money to upgrade to X. bx_crispytuner seems like a good alternative, but Plug-In Alliance doesn't seem like they plan on giving native support to that plug-in anytime soon and other than that one I only have like 7 plug-ins left that aren't native yet (all or most of which come from Native Instruments, of course).

Oh well.
Hello JonathanLevine, and thank you for sharing. We checked our system and we see you have reached out to our team. We will escalate your ticket and make sure we help you out with any questions and plugin concerns.
Tim from your customer support team reached out to me and helped me out very generously. Definitely the best customer service experience I’ve had in a while. Bought Auto-Tune Pro X today and can’t wait to dive into it when I get the chance.

Can’t believe you guys found me all the way over here too! :hihi:

If you see this tell Tim I said thanks for the help once again.

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Looks good!
Guillaume Piolat wrote: Tue Sep 06, 2022 10:45 am
paradisradio wrote: Tue Sep 06, 2022 6:35 am but all their installers still require Rosetta :(
Hello,
We'll very probably works on this for the winter update. Do not take this as a promise though, as we are a software company.

Lens is released today:
- blog => https://www.auburnsounds.com/blog/Introducing-Lens.html
- trailer =>
- download => https://www.auburnsounds.com/products/Lens.html

We believe it will rock your socks.

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