KVR Audio

carrieres · Post by **carrieres** » Mon Dec 08, 2014 9:31 pm

firepile wrote:
Caine123 wrote:
firepile wrote:
Caine123 wrote:what i dont get is that in the demo of 1.4 (testing it) the notes are not always played right? e.g. here only the last note is played. why?
Are you sending a three chord to Nora?
single note
With this 3 row pattern you need to play a three note chord. For example, if you play C major, you will get "G", "E" and "C", in that order.

i don't get this part, how to know how many notes you have to play ?

squaredheads · Post by **squaredheads** » Mon Dec 08, 2014 9:35 pm

Yes, IL Minihost is a good VST Chainer. Try this:
1. Load a Nora instance in any track
2. Create a new track and load IL Minihost.
3. Create a chain inside midi host, using a MIDI Filter (example: http://www.niallmoody.com/ndcplugs/ndcmidi.htm - MIDI Channel Filter) and an instrument. Set in the MIDI Filter the desired channel, and setup the Nora output track.
4. Repeat 2 and 3 for each track
5. Save the Live project as a template.

And you should have Nora working with multiple tracks in Live. I didn't test it personally, but it must work

As soon as I finish 2.01 I'll create multiple video tutorials.

squaredheads · Post by **squaredheads** » Mon Dec 08, 2014 9:40 pm

jcook5376 wrote:One feature that would be nice, unless it's possible already and I just haven't figured it out, is in the playlist mode selecting multiple patterns and pasting them as they are. For example, if I cut up a group of patterns on track 1, then highlight them all I can't seem to paste them with "shift" or use copy and paste within nora (they are greyed out) So i am forced to copy and paste each individual pattern on the track.

It's already on my list. At the moment you can select them, start dragging and then use Ctrl, so you will create phantom copies of them (they will be copied as they are).

Martin Simon · Post by **Martin Simon** » Mon Dec 08, 2014 9:42 pm

carrieres wrote:
firepile wrote:
Caine123 wrote:
firepile wrote:
Caine123 wrote:what i dont get is that in the demo of 1.4 (testing it) the notes are not always played right? e.g. here only the last note is played. why?
Are you sending a three chord to Nora?
single note
With this 3 row pattern you need to play a three note chord. For example, if you play C major, you will get "G", "E" and "C", in that order.
i don't get this part, how to know how many notes you have to play ?

You have to play all the notes you want to hear in your arp and then create or load a sequence in Nora.
The notes in Nora's sequencer to not correspond with those on your DAWs piano roll.
Well, they do in a way but...
In case you haven't watched them: It's best to watch the video's on the homepage of squaredheads. There the whole concept is explained.
When you get your head around this, its easy to use.

squaredheads · Post by **squaredheads** » Mon Dec 08, 2014 9:45 pm

carrieres wrote: i don't get this part, how to know how many notes you have to play ?

The easiest way to figure the amount of notes, is taking a look to how many notes you're using in each octave. Presets with, ie, 4 notes have been thought to be played with a 4-notes chord. If you use more keys, the higher keys will be ignored. If you use 2 keys, Nora will only play the two lower notes (unless static mode is enabled).

yellukhan · Post by **yellukhan** » Mon Dec 08, 2014 9:55 pm

about the Live midi routing is anyone tried insertpizhere's channel filter?
"midiChannelize"
http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic ... 8&t=300566 has 32 and x64 versions

"if midiChannelize works in Live"
this solution would much more efficient imho.
create 8 tracks
name them NoraOut1, NoraOut2 so on...
and add to all of them one midiChannelize plugin
then filter rest of the input channels in the plugin according to track name
for example for the NoraOut1 filter input channel 2,3,4,5,6,7,8
NoraOut2 : 1,3,4,5,6,7,8 NoraOut3: 1,2,4,5,6,7,8 so on.
then route Nora to all this 8 tracks..
if it works
now you have 8 midi tracks ready to route vstis
you can even assign more than one vst to single Nora output and create layered sound.

i am not Live user but i couldn't resist to suggest anyway

Compyfox · Post by **Compyfox** » Mon Dec 08, 2014 11:13 pm

Sorry, I'm late to the party. But after taking a closer look at the demo videos, I was being reminded of the old 7Aliens Catanya. Only that NORA is definitely more up to date.

So... interesting concept. But my main question would be:
Why would I need an arpeggiator like this, if I look at stuff like KIRNU or BlueARP, or what comes bundled with the likes of EZKeys (the pattern player)?

Still interesting - would love to take a closer look.
When is the demo due?

woodsdenis · Post by **woodsdenis** » Tue Dec 09, 2014 12:17 am

squaredheads wrote:
woodsdenis wrote:Hi

To eliminate Patchwork from the possibilities I just tested Nora in Studio One 64 bit

When Pressing Stop

Dune 2 100 % a Core
Dune 30 %
GForce Odditty. 30 %
Xfer Serum 30 %

Ones in my system that were ok

Native Instruments
Spectrasonics
Synthmaster
Arturia
Fabfilter
Spire
UHE

So it seems its a Dune issue mainly, it does it in mono so I guess whatever way it handles note offs is strange.
The six core peak was in a session with other plugins, when testing now with just Nora and a vst it was one core that maxed out.

If there is any clue in this is that Cthulhu which I assume does the same all notes off procedure does not make Dune 2 do this.

tx for quick response and a cool product.
Thank for testing. Please, do a final test: play the host with Nora loaded and switch between playlist and pattern mode. Each time you switch the mode, Nora will send the noteOff to all its outputs, like when you stop the host. So, if it's a noteOff problem related with Dune 2, you should have the same results.

Yes switching between playlist and pattern mode has the same results

firepile · Post by **firepile** » Tue Dec 09, 2014 1:35 am

Compyfox wrote:Sorry, I'm late to the party. But after taking a closer look at the demo videos, I was being reminded of the old 7Aliens Catanya. Only that NORA is definitely more up to date.

So... interesting concept. But my main question would be:
Why would I need an arpeggiator like this, if I look at stuff like KIRNU or BlueARP, or what comes bundled with the likes of EZKeys (the pattern player)?

Nora can do a lot of things the other two simply cannot do. And EZK is not an arpeggiator.

firepile · Post by **firepile** » Tue Dec 09, 2014 1:37 am

carrieres wrote:
firepile wrote:
Caine123 wrote:
firepile wrote:
Caine123 wrote:what i dont get is that in the demo of 1.4 (testing it) the notes are not always played right? e.g. here only the last note is played. why?
Are you sending a three chord to Nora?
single note
With this 3 row pattern you need to play a three note chord. For example, if you play C major, you will get "G", "E" and "C", in that order.
i don't get this part, how to know how many notes you have to play ?

Look at the numbers of rows in each octave in the editor.

Compyfox · Post by **Compyfox** » Tue Dec 09, 2014 1:42 am

firepile wrote:
Compyfox wrote:Sorry, I'm late to the party. But after taking a closer look at the demo videos, I was being reminded of the old 7Aliens Catanya. Only that NORA is definitely more up to date.

So... interesting concept. But my main question would be:
Why would I need an arpeggiator like this, if I look at stuff like KIRNU or BlueARP, or what comes bundled with the likes of EZKeys (the pattern player)?
Nora can do a lot of things the other two simply cannot do. And EZK is not an arpeggiator.

Sure, EZK is mainly a MIDI loop player. But NORA also offers interesting piano patters.

I'd love to take a closer look at v2, as this really looks like an evolution of the 7Aliens tools. But there is no demo yet. And even if there is, what is the limitation?

jcook5376 · Post by **jcook5376** » Tue Dec 09, 2014 1:53 am

Anyone use Reaper that has tried to do midi input to Nora using multiple channels? Seems like in the playlist editor I can have multiple tracks output to different channels (1, 2 ,3 etc...) but midi input on any other channel besides 1 isn't recognized by Nora. This is just straight playing from the Midi controller keyboard on channel 3 for example into a track in the playlist that was setup to accept channel 3 for input.

yellukhan · Post by **yellukhan** » Tue Dec 09, 2014 4:03 am

Hi,
just tried all 8 channels and i can say all works here Reaper4.75 x64 Nora x64
Only thing that came to mind is did you check record input configuration of Reaper's track?
right click to recarm button of track and be sure
"All Midi inputs / All Channels " was checked.
i hope this helps

Spitfire31 · Post by **Spitfire31** » Tue Dec 09, 2014 6:26 am

Compyfox wrote:Sorry, I'm late to the party. But after taking a closer look at the demo videos, I was being reminded of the old 7Aliens Catanya. Only that NORA is definitely more up to date.

And Nora runs on Mac OS, which is a definite advantage over Catanya for us who work on Macs.

Also, the AU version overcomes a somewhat crippling VST limitation in Live.

/Joachim

spirit · Post by **spirit** » Tue Dec 09, 2014 7:25 am

Spitfire31 wrote:
Compyfox wrote:Sorry, I'm late to the party. But after taking a closer look at the demo videos, I was being reminded of the old 7Aliens Catanya. Only that NORA is definitely more up to date.
And Nora runs on Mac OS, which is a definite advantage over Catanya for us who work on Macs.

Also, the AU version overcomes a somewhat crippling VST limitation in Live.

/Joachim

It's exactly Catanya - plus with other stuff like eight tracks. Why anyone would want to use Nora's interface to program eight tracks of material within a DAW - any one of which would have far superior multitrack sequencing capabilities boggles me. It seems like a really cumbersome way to go about things. But, different strokes....

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