Super 8 - New polysynth by Native Instruments

[vurt]

[martinjuenke]

They have about 400 employees. Show me another similar company who has that amount, and is doing so well.

Closer to 600 now.

Wow. You'd think they have 6, the way their stuff is "appreciated" here.

If they have only 6 employees, they would get their butts licked here...

[EvilDragon]

Kontour is fully automatable in Logic Pro. Perhaps Bitwig is the bad boy here...

Yep Kontour is indeed fully automatable.

[vurt]

They have about 400 employees. Show me another similar company who has that amount, and is doing so well.

Closer to 600 now.

Wow. You'd think they have 6, the way their stuff is "appreciated" here.

If they have only 6 employees, they would get their butts licked here...

well, think about it logically.
if youre going to lick a companies employees butts, youre probably going to go with as few employees as possible

[AnX]

If they have only 6 employees, they would get their butts licked here...

typo?

[vurt]

If they have only 6 employees, they would get their butts licked here...

typo?

or he was brought up by golden retrievers

[chk071]

Wow. You'd think they have 6, the way their stuff is "appreciated" here.

that's an odd way to look at things?
i love nis stuff (ok im still on 11 but not because i don't think its worth it, but because ive barely scratched 11s surface) but not because they have x number of employees

The point was that there's a certain discrepancy between NI's reputation here, and NI's reputation among people who do music. Otherwise they wouldn't have 600 employees, and they weren't the biggest player in the business either (which i can safely say now).

If they have only 6 employees, they would get their butts licked here...

typo?

I guess it's rather "kissed" in English. We Germans say "licked".

[martinjuenke]

[Spencer Maddox]

It is more like 3 extra mouse clicks... but I don't care about the 3 extra clicks either...

It is the poor browser, poor preset handling, non resizable GUI, no MPE, inconsistent behaviors between ensembles such as many random parameters (Osc 1 PWM knob) not automatable in Rounds, or automation parameter names in Prism all starting with the same term so when you assign them to macros you get a whole bunch of macros with the same name... and so on. And of course there is a significant CPU hit, even without notes playing.

Exactly. There are plenty of issues with a synth being Reaktor based beyond an extra click to load. I save my templates in my host presets so that doesn’t matter at all. But I like to use automap for example and Reaktor ensembles are all the same plugin so you can’t map them differently. And then all the other stuff you mentioned like non resizable GUI etc which is getting pretty rare these days, mpe etc, so it’s weird for such a huge company with so much money to be kind of behind the times.

If I want to use Kontour, Bitwig's modulation system doesn't work with it. Almost nothing in Kontour is automatable.

Down in the Devices pane, the Bitwig shell only says Reaktor 6 so if the GUI is closed, I don't know which ensemble is loaded.

There are lots of little oddities that hinder a smooth workflow.

Kontour is fully automatable in Logic Pro. Perhaps Bitwig is the bad boy here...

Don’t worry they’ll fix it if you pay 169$ for the new point update.

[AnX]

I guess it's rather "kissed" in English. We Germans say "licked".

I would expect that kind of filth from the Dutch!

[wetdentist]

man, with that many employees, you'd think they wouldn't have to resort to bait and switch tactics to get people to buy stuff (with Maschine Jam, Song Layer & Performance Recording were 2 features that were never delivered by NI, even though they said the features were "just about ready" a couple weeks before the Jam hit the streets) two and a half years ago

[vurt]

i suppose with the number of employees, if we ever go down the "hand to hand combat to the death" to see which is the best plugin company, they will have some advantage.

[Aloysius]

Super 8

[vurt]

I guess it's rather "kissed" in English. We Germans say "licked".

I would expect that kind of filth from the Dutch!

its europeans in general. dirty buggers.
probably something to do with cheese and sunlight.

[Stefken]

Is this a sort of simple pre-runner to Massive X to test the waters?

Massive X is due next month.
What does this have in common with Massive X?

It looks like Massive x's lovechild.