Super 8 - New polysynth by Native Instruments

[simmo75]

The modulation is really good. I thinks it’s a fine $69 soft synth. May have to use my $50 massive x apology voucher on this

[el-bo (formerly ebow)]

I know what i read on a daily base here. And then i take a look at how big and small the companies are. And laugh.

How very scientific of you. Meanwhile, continue in your fight to censor all contrary opinion.

That's a very nice way of defending self-entitled first world consumerism attitude.

I might put that on a t-shirt

[EvilDragon]

They have about 400 employees. Show me another similar company who has that amount, and is doing so well.

Closer to 600 now.

[Reefius]

If I want to use Kontour, Bitwig's modulation system doesn't work with it. Almost nothing in Kontour is automatable.

Just tried this in Ableton Live I can easily automate every parameter of Kontour. And no, I'm not using Komplete Kontrol, this is Reaktor 6 VST loaded directly into Ableton Live and manually loaded the Kontour ensemble in it.

[v1o]

Is this a sort of simple pre-runner to Massive X to test the waters?

Massive X is due next month.
What does this have in common with Massive X?

[EvilDragon]

Down in the Devices pane, the Bitwig shell only says Reaktor 6 so if the GUI is closed, I don't know which ensemble is loaded.

It's Bitwig's fault if you can't rename a device to suit yourself.


(Easily done in a number of other hosts.)

[v1o]

They have about 400 employees. Show me another similar company who has that amount, and is doing so well.

Regardless, as far as Super 8 specifically, we don't know how successful it will be. I mean do you really think every product that every big company comes out with is successful? I can tell you from having worked at big companies and having compiled their sales reports that big companies can have some really poor performing products.

Much like Arturia and their V Collection. The only reason they add new synths is to encourage upgrades for the bundles. NI sells more bundles than individual synths.

[vurt]

They have about 400 employees. Show me another similar company who has that amount, and is doing so well.

Closer to 600 now.

id hope youre one, the amount of shit you deal with around here on their behalf

[chk071]

They have about 400 employees. Show me another similar company who has that amount, and is doing so well.

Closer to 600 now.

Wow. You'd think they have 6, the way their stuff is "appreciated" here.

[herodotus]

So many grumpy old men in this thread...

its the kvr way


"this is not something im interested in, therefore i must trash talk it!!!"

Its sort of the kvr version of "someone is wrong on the internet"

tweedle dum and tweedle dee.

i dont like this!

i like this!

let's battle!

Now, now.

I was trying to be nice.

so was i

Ouch!

[Echoes in the Attic]

If I want to use Kontour, Bitwig's modulation system doesn't work with it. Almost nothing in Kontour is automatable.

Down in the Devices pane, the Bitwig shell only says Reaktor 6 so if the GUI is closed, I don't know which ensemble is loaded.

There are lots of little oddities that hinder a smooth workflow.

I don’t think I’ve has this issue with kontour or many ensembles, I can usually map to device panels.

[vstliefhebber]

If I want to use Kontour, Bitwig's modulation system doesn't work with it. Almost nothing in Kontour is automatable.

Down in the Devices pane, the Bitwig shell only says Reaktor 6 so if the GUI is closed, I don't know which ensemble is loaded.

There are lots of little oddities that hinder a smooth workflow.

Took me exactly 20 seconds to fire up Bitwig, Reaktor Kontour and automate Kontour's Cutoff with a Bitwig modulator.

[vurt]

Wow. You'd think they have 6, the way their stuff is "appreciated" here.

that's an odd way to look at things?
i love nis stuff (ok im still on 11 but not because i don't think its worth it, but because ive barely scratched 11s surface) but not because they have x number of employees

i can see why the smaller, one man or small group, get the different treatment.
its more that the naysayers, stay out of the threads more because if the individual is posting, the majority of us are adults who respect an individual person.
ni are a large faceless company, so its easier to complain.

its like youre probably more willing to spend a few extra pence on bread or milk at the corner store than at a chain supermarket, because you feel more youre supporting a person.

its just a tool at the end of the day, some will use it some wont.
no point worrying about it, not worth falling out with someone because they use a synth you don't like or don't use one you do
i think you should all kiss and make up, then make some music. collaborate even, with someone with an opposing view to you in this thread!

that's my challenge to all of you
not that i expect anyone to bother

[martinjuenke]

It is more like 3 extra mouse clicks... but I don't care about the 3 extra clicks either...

It is the poor browser, poor preset handling, non resizable GUI, no MPE, inconsistent behaviors between ensembles such as many random parameters (Osc 1 PWM knob) not automatable in Rounds, or automation parameter names in Prism all starting with the same term so when you assign them to macros you get a whole bunch of macros with the same name... and so on. And of course there is a significant CPU hit, even without notes playing.

Exactly. There are plenty of issues with a synth being Reaktor based beyond an extra click to load. I save my templates in my host presets so that doesn’t matter at all. But I like to use automap for example and Reaktor ensembles are all the same plugin so you can’t map them differently. And then all the other stuff you mentioned like non resizable GUI etc which is getting pretty rare these days, mpe etc, so it’s weird for such a huge company with so much money to be kind of behind the times.

If I want to use Kontour, Bitwig's modulation system doesn't work with it. Almost nothing in Kontour is automatable.

Down in the Devices pane, the Bitwig shell only says Reaktor 6 so if the GUI is closed, I don't know which ensemble is loaded.

There are lots of little oddities that hinder a smooth workflow.

Kontour is fully automatable in Logic Pro. Perhaps Bitwig is the bad boy here...

[AnX]

make music you say?





good one vurt