Guitar players, The soundclick MP3 demo page got updated !

[sonicfire]

i like the dimmed colours

[Lunch Money]

As long as it sounded right, I'd be interested.

[DaveSmom]

I'm IN.... Heaviest single AMP u got plz, Rene

ps. Remember, I never lost faith in the guru

[Melodioso]

The website looks very nice and professional, much better than before, that's for sure... The amp sim market will always be looking forward for a good new product, because a guitar sound is never perfect, wether real or sim'ed (to me). It will be interesting to compare MW's sim with AT2, because I'm getting better with it day by day. The last clip I posted sounds already thin and synthetic to me compared to the new ones I'm doing...

[C00kie]

Those knobs look like they'd wobble a bit when turned..

Now THAT's vintage !!

[championrabbit]

Those knobs look like they'd wobble a bit when turned..

Now THAT's vintage !!

It's not wobble, it's sag.

[cheul]

It would actually be funny to have a VST amp that would kick the competition's ass with such a fisherprice GUI (no offense to your skills CR).

[C00kie]

so why do you suddenly want to up and attack him? Did I miss something? Did he attack you first? I'm confused

I don't get it either, so just ignore it. Probably another hand-puppet act

[championrabbit]

It would actually be funny to have a VST amp that would kick the competition's ass with such a fisherprice GUI (no offense to your skills CR).

What the f...how dare y...I've never been so...why, you...I oughta...argh!!

[championrabbit]

Seriously though, I agree. People are too obsessed with designing stuff for teenage boys (all shiny and metallic). I'd be totally into fun/funny GUIs.

[Midiworks]

It will be interesting to compare MW's sim with AT2, because I'm getting better with it day by day. The last clip I posted sounds already thin and synthetic to me compared to the new ones I'm doing...

In general, I totally agree.
We should always learn the tools that we use the best we can.
But an amplifier simulator is a different story.
You should not need hours or even days, to get the tone that you are after.
Would you accept this from any real amplifier?
No, you would turn a few knobs and then start having fun.


What is a amplifier simulator?

Where did we get the idea from, what it should be?
Who said that an amplifier simulator has to be like this and do this and that?
Our minds have been pre-programmed, I would even say 'washed',
by the hardware guitar multi effect processors, from Boss, Line6
and quite a few others...
Later again by Line6's Ampfarm and AT.
They picked up the concept and tried to reproduce the hardware into software.
Then again later a few other software companies followed.
They were always sticking to the pre-programmed "concepts",
of what an amplifier simulator should be.

So they added more and more effect and all kind of other gimmicks.
I agree, that you can get some interesting sounds out of them.
But you would get very similar results, by chaining up,
the right combinations of plug-ins.
Sure it is more convenient to find everything in one box and ready to rock.

But tell me, what don't you find in all of those products ?
Right, you don't find a real amplifier simulator in any of them.



I wanted to say this since quite a while.



Because this is, where our amplifier simulator is making the big difference.

It is not only about the sound of the amp simulations,
that you've all heard and why you're sticking to this KVR topic,
but also about the feel and responds to your guitar playing.

What is the greatest distorted amp sound worth,
if it does not interact with the way YOU play ?

If you cannot caress your strings gently to get that sweet tone
and in the next moment strike them hard and make the beast scream ?

With our amplifier, you will be able to do exactly this.

[oddbods finger]

If you cannot caress your strings gently to get that sweet tone
and in the next moment strike them hard and make the beast scream ?

O, what a rogue and peasant slave am I!
Is it not monstrous that this player here,
But in a fiction, in a dream of passion,
Could force his soul so to his own conceit
That from its working all his visage wanned,
Tears in his eyes, distraction in his aspect,
A broken voice, and his whole function suiting
With forms to his conceit? And all for nothing....
W. Shakespeare - "A Midsummer Nights Amp Simulator"

[Hink]

If you cannot caress your strings gently to get that sweet tone
and in the next moment strike them hard and make the beast scream ?

With our amplifier, you will be able to do exactly this.

are you saying this can't be done with either of my PODs? (2.0 and xt live) Because if you think so, than I believe you're quite mistaken.

FWIW I think it would be far better to get away from the word "sims"...who really cares about whether it sounds like a Marshall, or a Fender, or a Boogie? Perhaps the truly pretentious guitar player might. But what matters too me is not if it sounds like the real amp.

My tone evolves and has for over 30 years, but I would not want my old plexi back, because I sold it when it no longer suited my needs, same with my Boogie and now I do not use my Marshall pre-amp for anything but live. Over the years this has been the case, why would I step backwards? Even a better question would be, because of ear fatigue from older amps and having a better ear, can anyone really tell if a model sounds like the real thing? I contend that no one can, it's too subjective and too many variables to say so. What matters is the sound, the sim is marketing.

It surely doesn't take me more than a couple seconds to get the tone I want, more sims might actually perpetuate that fundamental lacking in knowledge that some have. It is important imo to understand how to get that tone in order to fully understand how to use that tone. When someone hears my music on a cd or online, they do not see what amp or ax I am using...as long as it sounds good, who cares? Besides those lacking in confidence and rely on their gear to validate their own playing.

If all you are saying is that it will be a better simulator and simulate amps more accurate, then it will just be another sim Good for some perhaps, but not all. I really think instead of perfecting the true tone of the original amp, a software guitar amp solution would be better served by having ways to work around the latency, because that is the number one factor in why I do not go the sim route. Hardware with the sim that also serves as a complete soundcard and also provides direct monitoring as with other sound cards would be huge. Evolving is better than nostalgia imho.

[Killvehicle]

Right here:

Those knobs look like they'd wobble a bit when turned..

WOOOHHAHAA!! Good one!!!

Sorry I dont live in my moms basement and/or unemployed that I can continue to post all day, so I missed all the fantastic fun yesterday, And yeah I am just a fanboy, all I like or listen to is Morbid Angel, yup, you know it, They havent made a good album in over 13 years, but I keep holding on and sweating out this type of music, but in the meantime I own my own business and make money and live a comfortable life, but yeah Im really sweating this out....

[_patch]

Rene,

I respect your decision to take the time for improvements/build a complete new engine of your ampsim.

BUT: you told us nothing really new!

if you are willing (...and able) to really clarify/answer some of our questions and don't want to feed again(!) new 'conspiration-theories', then please answer the two following questions:


Q1:
are some of the leading amp-modelling-companies involved into your 'projekt' and work, nametly Line6, Hughes&Kettner, Steinberg or even Native-Instruments?

yes or no? if yes, who is it?

...btw: I don't believe NI a single word anymore and I begin to hate this company - but I'm still happy with my GR2!


Q2:
'soon' (you wrote) you will choose some people, give them the possibillity to try out your 'new amp'... 'SOON', man... that's soo cool = Verarsche!

SO: when is the RELEASE-DATE of your ampsim? ...just tell us the month in 2006.


thanks!

p.s. no further questions to you in this thread!!!