KVR Audio

geekboy · Post by **geekboy** » Fri Feb 24, 2006 2:22 pm

Good for you, Squids. Great test.

Sascha Franck · Post by **Sascha Franck** » Fri Feb 24, 2006 2:33 pm

I was allready suspecting it might be a real amp.
Those sound quite "small" very often when listened to solo-ed.

It's no great sound nonetheless. Probably useful but not great. I think I got better results from some new Vox a while ago (don't have the files, sorry, has been a studio job).
But then, I don't exactly believe in vintage gear anyways.
Oh well, only sometimes... just had an opportunity to buy some cherry red Strat (I think a '68 model, so it's not pre-CBS, but hey), almost in mint condition. That one was pretty great. Won't pay 15,000 Euro for it though.

NoBrain2k · Post by **NoBrain2k** » Fri Feb 24, 2006 2:37 pm

Ya know I still think Amplitube 1 sounds great, and I have an Orange Rocker 30 Valve combo sitting right beside me so its not as if I dont have anything to compare it to.

I also think Amplitube sounds better in some ways than guitar rig 1 (not sure about 2).

I also thought squids sample sounded great.

Beardedone · Post by **Beardedone** » Fri Feb 24, 2006 2:37 pm

Ah! Subjectivity!

It's like the song "I'm ampbivalent about you baby!"

zeoy · Post by **zeoy** » Fri Feb 24, 2006 2:42 pm

You didn't play it right Squids ...

I mean you revealed it too early.

C'mon guys anyone who's ever recorded a tube amp with a 57 knows that this is the real thing (if you're still playing with us Squids then AT2 is really working)
This doesn't mean that you have to like the sound but this is the Vox sound and esp. this is the sound you get when you mic an amp. That's all.
You may think that I'm on the safe side saying these things after Squids said it's a real amp but even if I didn't knew it I'd say that this sounds like a real recording of an amp I dont like so much (yes I'm not a Vox fan)

PS I didn't like AT1 and I'm not a potential buyer of AT2 (too expensive for a hobbyist). I'm happy that I can record my tube amp and if I want or have to go the ampsim route simulanalog JCM900 is still the king in my book.

~BURNY~ · Post by **~BURNY~** » Fri Feb 24, 2006 2:44 pm

Well, I guess you made a valid point.

MickGael · Post by **MickGael** » Fri Feb 24, 2006 2:46 pm

Squids wrote:
MickGael wrote:
MickGael wrote:Squids, let's say that it does not ship until mid-March - how long do you think it will be before copies ship to you and you can then start shipping out to AT1 owners?
Bump
About a week.

Excellent. Thanks

Squids · Post by **Squids** » Fri Feb 24, 2006 2:51 pm

~BURNY~ wrote:Well, I guess you made a valid point.

Sorry if it made you look bad though Burny. That's the unfortunate part of who ever falls into the OTHER trap which was mine. Thanks for being a good sport. I'll make up for it with a great deal for you on AT2!

Squids · Post by **Squids** » Fri Feb 24, 2006 2:57 pm

zeoy wrote:You didn't play it right Squids ...

I mean you revealed it too early.

C'mon guys anyone who's ever recorded a tube amp with a 57 knows that this is the real thing (if you're still playing with us Squids then AT2 is really working)
This doesn't mean that you have to like the sound but this is the Vox sound and esp. this is the sound you get when you mic an amp. That's all.
You may think that I'm on the safe side saying these things after Squids said it's a real amp but even if I didn't knew it I'd say that this sounds like a real recording of an amp I dont like so much (yes I'm not a Vox fan)

PS I didn't like AT1 and I'm not a potential buyer of AT2 (too expensive for a hobbyist). I'm happy that I can record my tube amp and if I want or have to go the ampsim route simulanalog JCM900 is still the king in my book.

Yes, I may have revealed it too early. Perhaps we could have seen how many more people would say "sounds fake!"

But, yes, a 57 in front of an AC30 is one of many sounds AT2 is great for. The whole AC30 sound is a key ingredient for bands like the Beatles, Queen, Tom Petty & The Heartbreakers, Crowded House, Elvis Costello... The Supro and Marshall are great for Led Zep. The Fender is great for Clapton, Stones... Like I said, I am a fan of classic rock, alternative, progressive rock so that is the perspective everyone is going to get from me. That's just one side of a very versatile and powerful plug-in. I am sure there will be opportunities to see many different sounds, styles of music and musicians in action with it. When one hits the nail on the head for each person then perhaps that's the key. Or maybe when you have the opportunity to try it out for yourself because in the end the only thing that matters is that the person buying it likes it for their own reasons.

Mutant · Post by **Mutant** » Fri Feb 24, 2006 3:13 pm

Squids wrote:Plasticy? Bollocks. It's a $10,000. Jimmy Page Les Paul through a Vox AC30 cranked to 10 with a freakin' SM57 in front of it. Doesn't get any more REAL than that. 8/10? That's even a real JMI Vox from the mid 60's. Costs around $3,000 on the market. This one even belonged to a well known recording musician. I bought it from Ed Cherney.

Hehe 8/10 from me is a very high mark.

Honestly i've heard (subjectively) better sound coming from a $400 guitar , $600 amp and an old sm57.

What i think you did is you (innocently and unconsiously) made a clip that is not as good as it could be - i wonder how your clip would sound if you were not financially motivated to convince us that AT2 is as good as a real thing.

Funkybot · Post by **Funkybot** » Fri Feb 24, 2006 3:15 pm

Ha ha! Good job Squids. I think people forget what mic'd amps sound like. They may know what a real amp on a record sounds like in the context of a mix, and they might know what a guitar amp sounds like sitting in the same room with them. But I think that a lot of the time they either don't know, or forget what an amp sounds like with a few mics in front plugged into a some pre's really sounds like. It'd be interesting to hear a test similar to yours (not asking you to do this) where there are actually a few different mics thrown in front of various amps, then stacked up randomly against various amp sims.

NoBrain2k · Post by **NoBrain2k** » Fri Feb 24, 2006 3:15 pm

Perhaps the main thing about the whole realism thing is that it FEELS real when you play it?? Meaning that listening to a sample is never going to seem real.

robogone · Post by **robogone** » Fri Feb 24, 2006 3:22 pm

Only 5 to go!

zeoy · Post by **zeoy** » Fri Feb 24, 2006 3:31 pm

Squids wrote:Like I said, I am a fan of classic rock, alternative, progressive rock

me too, so don't worry Squids, I won't put AT2 down if the chugga-chugga is not right

. But give me a convincing SRV tone from AT2 and I may change my mind about not being a potential AT2 customer

(yep , I know SRV's tone is hard to get even if using the same gear as he did but something in the same ballpark will do)

azra · Post by **azra** » Fri Feb 24, 2006 3:40 pm

Squids , sorry but i think your sample is not representing the sound we are talking about in the best way it could , to my ears the sound is muddy a bit plastic yes i would say and doesnt have that AC30 crisp touch. I dont own any heavy weight equipement so i cant post the my samples of the sound the way i hear it but i have the oportumity to play whit exactly same gear you used sometimes and the sound i get is not like yours , its less muddy and has more crisp , but i have to admit i like your sound , its sounds way more vintage , but maybe its about amp age but if i had to make a bet i wouldnt be so sure its all about that.

I would say that it get way closer to this ( same guitar and mic as you used ) , and you have to hear there is a bit differnce

http://www.proguitar.de/AudioDemo/mp3/A ... aHeavy.mp3

Sorry about my English folks

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