Amplitube 2 Jimi Hendrix RELEASED this month!!!

[beergeek]

BTW Squids....

I'm still loving the idea of "preset challenges"...I love to play with stuff that way (one of the big reasons for me to go to AT2...so much stuff to play with.) In fact, I think we should start a forum/group somewhere for doing just that and for trading presets. Maybe a yahoo group?

One thing that does dissappoint me a bit about IK is that they don't have any user forums on their site. I mean it's great that you juggle that one for them and certainly SR and esoundz don't need anything more than what you have here on KVR.

Any chance you could convince them to do one or at the very least, get them to do one here on kvr?

Might make your life a little easier

Brett started an IK group on yahoo so maybe that could be it but it would be nice to have someone from IK cruising it and answering questions about what's going on at IK, you know, taking some of the heat off you

[1991lespaul]

That's a great idea. There is an AT1 Yahoo site, but it is not very active. A place where we could share patches and convesation would be great. I actually enjoy crusing the Line6 Forum, it has a wide variety of discussions going on at any given time. Hopefully this idea can become a eality for AT2 users!

[Lunch Money]

I'm certainly not negative. Anybody who's upset by it has no sense of humour or hasn't been around long enough on KvR.

I didn't put my guess in, because somehow even though the wording is ambiguous, I could tell that it was going to be a real amp. The clip, in my opinion, doesn't give it away compared to many of the modern amp sims. I think existing technology already does a pretty good job, and I'm looking forward to hearing (though not purchasing-- too rich for my blood) how AT2 comes across once it's finally released.

Greg

[Squids]

Squids ...no offense hear...I admire and respect you tremendously...however even the best make mistakes, and I think you made a big one by "proving" the customer base here to be wrong...if you were me or Sascha, or Greg, A3ntar or any other potential customer it would be different. But your voice is the voice of IK in many people's eyes. So how does tricking these people help? Can we now trust any clips you post?

I always say that on KVR I am not authorized to be the official voice of IK. If IK has me demonstrate products in videos and other presentations that is different. But, here I am Squids and represent SR or esoundz and that's it. Secondly, I don't lie to potential customers. I didn't lie here either. I never said in the post where I posted it that this was AmpliTube 2. I merely said that I was working on clips to play for you that would be. I took all of a few hours to tell everyone that it was a test and in fact a real amp. I never said it was or wasn't in the first place. Anyway, that was the only way my experiment would work. I FULLY realize that some people would find it amusing and enjoyable while others would find a way to criticize it or take it out of context and make me look bad. That's fine with me. I think if people read what I say and understand me from there is enough integrity and credibility to justify doing a stunt like this. In fact, I think it was even an interesting conversation piece since it has been brought up that many people aren't even familiar with the naked sound of a miked amp! That makes sense. Maybe most people are used to hearing it mixed on the records they like (double or triple tracked even and processed) or maybe they are used to hearing it in a room live jamming with their buddies. I think it is also interesting that even different AC30 amps sound different from EACH OTHER (let alone the fact that different players, different guitars all play a factor too).

So, sometimes to make a point in a world of subjectivity you have to take some risks. For myself, it proved my own theory and concern about whether I should spend the time making any clips or if it is just going to get shot down anyway. At least not doing it for this thread. I might do it on esoundz for potential customers who are actually looking for reasons to WANT to like it. But, for people who are looking for the next chance to say "It sounds like CRAP" no matter what... well, who has time for that?

[Squids]

I'm certainly not negative. Anybody who's upset by it has no sense of humour or hasn't been around long enough on KvR.

Greg

Bravo Greg. Maybe it isn't right or smart as a store representative which I also am I guess but I have no time for people who have no sense of humor. Life is too short. So, if that means that we only have customers on esoundz that have a good sense of humor or care more about the music they are making than any of this then that's okay with me.

[Squids]

I thought it sounded crappy too... I'm not after that old-school stuff... Be a man and stick up some metal, Squidsy

daGuru (R.I.P)

If we end up doing some Metal sessions for Studio ProFiles then finally I will have something and it will probably be with a famous guitarist from a Metal band so feel free to email me your requested musicians and I can see what I can do. However, for that I would work with a producer/engineer who has done Metal records since that is not a style I have expertise in. I mean, I like Black Sabbath, Led Zeppelin, Metallica, ACDC but, like I said, I am more of a classic hard rock guy really. Actually, I don't even like the categorization of music in general. I like to mix it up.


By the way, for those that still think it sounds plasticy and want to know more about what was used, here you go. This was a Vox AC30 with Top Boost from 1964, JMI model from England with the Bulldog speaks. The mic was a Shure SM57 which is the most popular mic for amps although sometimes a Sennheisser MD421 is good or an EV RE20 (and some others are good too if we want to get into guitar amp miking discussion). Anyway, it was recorded into an Avalon Mic Pre straight into an Apogee converter and into a ProTools HD system. That's about as high end as it gets. ZERO processing.

Now maybe the mp3ing itself has taken a little away. Like I said, the playing is just some random licks put together and compositionally it could be better (but I did this really quick and it was on a whim, not even planned... in fact as I said I was typing that I'd do it as a joke to see and then I ended up really doing it).

Bottom line is, this is one AC30 in a particular studio with a particular guitar and guitarist. It is even going to sound different than another AC30, another guitarist in another studio! On top of that, some of you don't even know it yet perhaps but don't like the sound of an AC30! So many variables. This I think proves that it could be the most subjective thing and there is NO right or wrong!

That leaves the most noble thing I can say which is that it really comes down to YOUR own tastes. You may not find what you want in an audio demo but trying it out for youself then could be the way if you don't. Makes sense? Reasonable? I think so. I am not pretending that because I think it sounds great or that the clips I was going to do would sound great (same response, some would think yes and some would think otherwise) that you should run out and buy it. Make up your own mind however you need to! I am all for that.

Peace. Out.

[Hink]

Constructive criticism is the process of offering valid and well-reasoned opinions about the work of others, usually involving both positive and negative comments, in a friendly manner rather than an oppositional one. In collaborative work, this kind of criticism is often a valuable tool in raising and maintaining performance standards

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[1991lespaul]

BRAVO Squids....I don't feel that you did anything wrong. It is kind of like going to the psych building on any college campus and signing up for a "blind" experiment for extra credit. Some get the real thing (Vox), and some get the placebo (AT2). You tested the waters, and your conclusion was correct. I am just interested in getting my copy of AT2, and a set of your presets if you decide to create them. People just have to try AT2 before making a judgement about it. Actually there is no basis to make a judgement for/against AT2 other than some compressed mp3's/Namm video. I am neither for nor against until I receive a copy to try it out. Who knows, I may enjoy it as much as you, or I may dislike it, that's just the way it works.

[1991lespaul]

LOL..Nice of you to supply definitions Hink :)

[Kingston]

I wonder if there's single person who has read this whole thread.

[AndrewW]

I wonder if there's single person who has read this whole thread.

Whole thread in one day in one sitting

[dogod]

I wonder if there's single person who has read this whole thread.

Yup, wotz it been, few months now.... plenty of time to read it all

Bring on 200

daGuru (R.I.P)

[Squids]

when and if you're in my area it wont be fish and chips you'll be buying us...when you're in my neck of the woods it's a peck of steamers and couple pound and a half lobstas...

I missed the best part of your post. ABSOLUTELY man! I am all about steamers and lobstas!

Your points taken fine. I realize that there was some risk involved in doing a stunt like that. The whole "how would you know if it was real" thing. But, I think the key is that if you are going to pull a trick like that you need to come right out and say it fairly quickly. One thing I would NEVER do (believe or don't believe) is post something that was not what you thought it was and NEVER say anything. If I ever did THAT then I would deserve to lose credibility as anyone would. But, I know I would never do that and most people who get me know that's not my style. Why would I? To gain some sales? Look, if I was ALL about the sales I'd be in another business believe me. This one is too niche and small. I genuinely enjoy this stuff and with forgiving a humorous stint now and then, I am still for the most part one who gives as much or more than what we get back in just "sales".

True, some of the things I do in terms of marketing and sales can walk the line between... to quote Spinal Tap here "stupid and clever"! (but we don't pay you to be as stupid as Nigel! ). I am smart enough to be aware that I am stupid sometimes. So? No one's perfect. In the name of humor, science and psychology I am willing to make a few compromises.

I hope you'll all respect me in the morning.

[dogod]

Ha ha ha... As long as you leave some flowers and chocolates.... ROFL

daGuru (R.I.P)

[Hink]

I'd rather dead weeds and potato chips...

Squids, how can I not respect someone who sails these rough waters as eloquently as you?...