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davefromfade · Post by **davefromfade** » Sat Oct 22, 2005 2:05 pm

this is great stuff people. keep it coming! from what i hear on the NI site, i really love GR2. so far i am leaning that way. i downloaded the simulanalog stuff and will be demoing that today. i hate when software makers don't put an interface on their plug-in's and it just uses the SONAR generic VST interface. Yuck!

AndrewSimon · Post by **AndrewSimon** » Sat Oct 22, 2005 6:56 pm

GR1 is not good.
As far as I can see GR2 will have minimal improvement.
GTR is good but only for clean and up to crunch.
Hi gain on it is not that good.

I have high hopes for Amplitube2.
If it doesn't happen I will go with a guitar hardware preamp.

I will save up for this one:
http://www.vhtamp.com/product-news/valvulator-gp3.html

Sascha Franck · Post by **Sascha Franck** » Sat Oct 22, 2005 7:05 pm

Have you seen a price for the Valvulator yet, Andrew? Looks like one hell of a machine to be sure.

AndrewSimon · Post by **AndrewSimon** » Sat Oct 22, 2005 8:02 pm

Have you seen a price for the Valvulator yet, Andrew? Looks like one hell of a machine to be sure.

MAP price is $1275.
From reading chat boards people are getting them for $950.
(I also heard dealer price is $750)
Quite expensive but if I can get 12 payments no interest I can manage.
However I really hope Amplitube2 will satisfy me and I wont need to go this route.
I already have a so called "tube preamp" (ART DPS II with lots of modifications) with built in AD converter that allows me to bring in a very clean guitar into the computers via fiber optic.
It will be much easier to work with that, then to start messing around with hardware, ground loops, impedance problems and so on.

I am sure amp simulation will reach it's peak potential one day, if not AT2 then maybe AT3 but we will get there eventually.
And that is the way to go for home recordings.
I do not have the money, space or the ability to play loud in my "bedroom studio" while two small kids are sleeping in the next room.

Sascha Franck · Post by **Sascha Franck** » Sat Oct 22, 2005 8:13 pm

You know, Andrew, for live stuff I still prefer analog knobs. I don't want to reprogram all my clean patches just because I may notice the clean sounds are too low in volume.
With an analog device I just turn one knob and there we go, all clean patches louder in a second.

Actually, that's what I'm doing right now allready, my amp is fully analog (Boogie Mark IV), just the patching and FX stuff is done programmable. Best of both worlds, really. At least for live stuff.

And btw, I thought this thing would be more expensive.
Too bad it'll take ages until any unit will show up over here to give it a testride.

AndrewSimon · Post by **AndrewSimon** » Sat Oct 22, 2005 8:51 pm

Sascha Franck wrote:You know, Andrew, for live stuff I still prefer analog knobs. I don't want to reprogram all my clean patches just because I may notice the clean sounds are too low in volume.
With an analog device I just turn one knob and there we go, all clean patches louder in a second.

Actually, that's what I'm doing right now allready, my amp is fully analog (Boogie Mark IV), just the patching and FX stuff is done programmable. Best of both worlds, really. At least for live stuff.

And btw, I thought this thing would be more expensive.
Too bad it'll take ages until any unit will show up over here to give it a testride.

Well our needs are different.
You play live professionally, for me it's just a late night hobby after a long day of work.

Should be available in Europe. (it first came out in 2001)
I know it's very popular in France, I have seen it on several French web sites.
By the way I think it's arround 1500 Euros (oh well, somebody has to pay for the social system)

EDIT

Here is the German rep:
http://www.sea-vertrieb.de

Here here is a German sites:
http://e--team.de 2990 EURO... OUCH

Here is a French site:
http://www.webmarchand.com/a/liste_prod ... roduit.htm 1990 Euros

Can't you just order it from the US?
How much custom is there? + VAT right?

Sascha Franck · Post by **Sascha Franck** » Sat Oct 22, 2005 9:22 pm

2990 Euro vs. something around 1000 USD?!?
Holy shit!
Dunno about custom... but then, I'd have to give it a testride first anyways. And it won't be for now either.

Thanks for the links anyways! Seems I'm pretty much not up to date with all that guitar stuff. But then, usually I'm happy with what I have, could just be a líttle more convenient/smaller.

Uncle E · Post by **Uncle E** » Sat Oct 22, 2005 10:08 pm

That VHT looks nice, have you heard any comparisons of it against the Mesa Boogie? I had high hopes for the Boogie but found it to be a let down, I've certainly gotten better results from a real amp into a Groove Tubes Speaker Emulator. I wouldn't be surprised if VHT did a better job of it.

Sascha Franck · Post by **Sascha Franck** » Sat Oct 22, 2005 10:15 pm

Comparisons against which Boogie?

Uncle E · Post by **Uncle E** » Sat Oct 22, 2005 10:26 pm

The Boogie Recto Recording Preamp:

http://www.mesaboogie.com/Product_Info/ ... reAmp.html

Sascha Franck · Post by **Sascha Franck** » Sat Oct 22, 2005 10:36 pm

Ohhh... I'm really out of the loop it seems.

Sascha Franck · Post by **Sascha Franck** » Sat Oct 22, 2005 10:38 pm

Now, why don't they have demo files on both the VHT and Boogie site?

LijEyasu · Post by **LijEyasu** » Mon Dec 05, 2005 1:39 pm

So how long have you worked at NI?

gordon_freeman wrote:I should say Guitar RIG is really unbeatable... I tryed many digital gutar amps and combo emulators, but guitar RIG has unique sound, and this is the only guitar effect which can give you THAT guitar sound... After I tryed it I fallen down from my chair. I did never know that it's possible to make such a good guitar fx emulation... Well, my voice to GuitarRIG. It's unique and only the thing which may be called a "guitar effect". And no my apologizes to guys who use another software... Well, guys... You have a crap if you don't have RIG.

ew · Post by ew » Mon Dec 05, 2005 4:32 pm

My local boutique amp shop's supposed to be getting a Valvulator in sometime in the next couple weeks. I've played through a Recto a couple times; it's the first Boogie preamp I've liked since they stopped making the Quad.

ew

fritzman · Post by **fritzman** » Mon Dec 05, 2005 6:37 pm

ew wrote:My local boutique amp shop's supposed to be getting a Valvulator in sometime in the next couple weeks. I've played through a Recto a couple times; it's the first Boogie preamp I've liked since they stopped making the Quad.

ew

yeah,

the Quad was cool. I had one but I sold it. It wasn't heavy enough for me, the sound was too polite for what I wanted. But it was very good at that. Maybe next time we'll drive to a big town I'll see if I can check out the Rectifier pre.
Does anybody have any soundclips of it?

Best wishes, FRitz

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