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Kingston · Post by **Kingston** » Mon Jan 23, 2006 6:47 am

tuz wrote:i'd do it synched and non-synched.

LIMITAPROACHINGINFINITY · Mon Jan 23, 2006 7:13 am

No substitute for manually slicing tiny little fragments of samples and manually rearanging them.

Kingston · Post by **Kingston** » Mon Jan 23, 2006 7:19 am

Oh yes there is! This thread quite effectively proves that.

Sure if you are an ubertweaker and get a kick off that kind of trainspotter pedancy you *can* do it manually. But just look at that list of plugins (page 2). I dare you to do all that manually!

.jon · Post by **.jon** » Mon Jan 23, 2006 7:58 am

...no substitute for knob fiddling when on stage.

But it is also true what LIMIT... said. Very few of these plugins have the amount of control I like to have when making a tune, but pedantic arranging of the output of these plugins will yield very interesting results.

Maybe some kind souls would like to add the best bitcrushers in this thread as well?

Kingston · Post by **Kingston** » Mon Jan 23, 2006 8:03 am

pakana wrote:Very few of these plugins have the amount of control I like to have when making a tune

I agree. I find the most important control to be the bypass.. in the host.

pakana wrote:Maybe some kind souls would like to add the best bitcrushers in this thread as well?

But there's no substitute for the real output of oldschool 8/12bit DACs like roland w30, sp1200, or akai s950! or the real soundblaster pro.

kidding.

Yeah, bitcrushers here please.

Z3R0T0N1N · Post by **Z3R0T0N1N** » Mon Jan 23, 2006 8:12 am

Splichflifter has been mentioned, but for me that's one of my faves.
ioplong makes wonderful stuff.

NicFit made a bunch of MIDI utilities that are fantastic for adding a touch of algorithmic behaviour to your track.

dover666 · Post by **dover666** » Mon Jan 23, 2006 8:14 am

i've got some ideas for some bitcrushing. obviously to get any respect i'm going to have to learn c, but anyway. .. i need some creative suggestions for another delay based transfcukrifier -

.jon · Post by **.jon** » Mon Jan 23, 2006 8:26 am

untested c&p from a quickie forum search (it would probably be worthwhile to do these more often)

http://www.virtualcreations.de/download/?elitereducer
http://cmt.siba.fi/studies/Courses/2001 ... itcrusher/
http://dsp.mutagene.net/?pid=projects&pc=Anticode
http://www.kvraudio.com/get/1862.html
http://www.kvraudio.com/get/1749.html
http://www.jerkbox.de/trashkonzept/TK_Trasher.zip
http://www.acc.umu.se/~bedev/software/vst/#FLOATCRUSHER
http://www.savioursofsoul.de/Christian/ = Christian Budde Toadstunnel
http://www.concretefx.com/Lowbit.zip
http://www.devine-machine.com/minion/bitmodder.dll

waiting man · Post by **waiting man** » Mon Jan 23, 2006 8:48 am

sure we wanna include step-sequenced gates? so why not a noisegate?

and are simple stutterers a glitch effect?

what's the name of that step-sequenced multieffect by Spoonboiler? was it Xenogate?

waiting man · Post by **waiting man** » Mon Jan 23, 2006 8:50 am

king of bitcrushers (lo-fi, on the bottom)
http://www.e-phonic.com/plugins/

Kingston · Post by **Kingston** » Mon Jan 23, 2006 8:55 am

waiting man wrote:sure we wanna include step-sequenced gates? so why not a noisegate?

and are simple stutterers a glitch effect?

I suspected this would come up at some point.
Like I said I need help with sorting everything out. I don't think there can be a clear definition of 'glitch'. But look at the initial list on page 2 and you get a pretty good idea of what should and shouldn't be included there.

As far as sorting them out goes, I don't think there's any one good way of doing it. Most of these effects are quite unique, or combine several different types of "glitch".

stutter/repeat/granular/slicer/reorder/bufferoverride/gater/reverse/crusher/destruction etc.

spacefox · Post by **spacefox** » Mon Jan 23, 2006 10:12 am

LIMITAPROACHINGINFINITY wrote:No substitute for manually slicing tiny little fragments of samples and manually rearanging them.

Not all the mentioned plugs are random/ automatic.

IOplong's ones allow some extesive control. You can also play dfx Buffer Overide for your choise of manual glitches and stutters, synced and unsynced.

Lucifer give you a great deal of control and is allows reordering/ stuttering/ gating/ scratching/ rythmic effects/ gating and much more - this before v2 is out even.
The true swiss army knife of glitch.

Liveslice also gives you nice control too and can be used as an effect. Demoed it briefly and I will stick with Lucifer for now - it seems like a great plugin, though.

toine6 · Post by **toine6** » Mon Jan 23, 2006 10:50 am

Was browsing xoxos plug-ins, he wrote this description about one of his randomization delay plug-ins (Disipline 2)

Take signal, delay, no feedback.. feed output of delay thru other delay.. repeat for total of five delays. add a randomised switcher to select taps, sync it to the beat, make it stereo. here is your sound, your sound, sound, here, here, sound, is, is, your, sound, is your..

LOL!

Also wanted to mention that Liveslice doesn't seem to work for me in FL Studio 5 or 6. It will work sometimes for no particular reason, and when it does work, it's only for a few seconds. Anyone have any info., is this a known problem?

jmh · Post by **jmh** » Mon Jan 23, 2006 11:10 am

One thing off the top of my head...

FreeZZZZer 2 by Diverse. SynthEdit, and suffers from a small problem with the buffer (sometimes the buffer content doesn't 'start from the beginning', instead there's a snippet of audio in the beginning, which makes repeating percussive stuff sound out of sync) but it's still rather nifty - and has seen a lot of use over here.

JMH

meister eder · Post by **meister eder** » Mon Jan 23, 2006 12:08 pm

Kingston wrote:Hi all, here's an attempt at listing the thread this far. Please add anything you feel like it is missing.

Don't forget to add Pluggo - it's kind of the grandfather of all glitch plugins and still offers a great variety of stutter-, slice-, warble-, granular-, deconstruction, whatever-effects.

And, as I said before, lots of Reaktor effects are fantasic glitchers as well, mostly the sequenced and the granular ensembles.

And talking about grandfathers: Remember Velocet Reorder?

The glitch plugins thread.