Thanks, nice of you to say.hollowsun wrote:I really liked both of them. My kind of 'music'.shamann wrote:I'll give you two minor examples of things I do with sampling:
So how do you use your sampler?
- addled muppet weed
- 111309 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass
generally to "f**k shit up"
push sounds until they become something new and interesting.
chop n rearrange...
pitch changes...
filters...
whatevers available...
3rd option in the poll btw
push sounds until they become something new and interesting.
chop n rearrange...
pitch changes...
filters...
whatevers available...
3rd option in the poll btw
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- KVRist
- 411 posts since 12 May, 2005
Okay, well here's a little example of the kind of loop manipulation I was talking about. I included a screenshot of the SC program, so you can also see that in essence it's really simple - a dual-peak filter, a couple tempo-synced LFOs with simple shapes, some loop points, and some modulation routings centered around that. Also I used time(s) to sweep the cutoff frequency of the dual peak filter because it was easier than drawing an automation sweep. Oh, the other sample you see is the unprocessed version which is mixed in - you can hear the unprocessed loop in isolation for the last two bars.
http://myweb.unomaha.edu/~cclimer/Yes I Can.zip
In an actual composition I probably wouldn't use a sample in such an obvious way, and the beat is pretty repetitive even with the added "glitchiness" (which really isn't glitchiness at all, it's exactly the behavior intended and expected for the parameters chosen, neither is it chaotic or "random" in any way). But it's just a simple demonstration - it's been a long week.
http://myweb.unomaha.edu/~cclimer/Yes I Can.zip
In an actual composition I probably wouldn't use a sample in such an obvious way, and the beat is pretty repetitive even with the added "glitchiness" (which really isn't glitchiness at all, it's exactly the behavior intended and expected for the parameters chosen, neither is it chaotic or "random" in any way). But it's just a simple demonstration - it's been a long week.
- KVRAF
- 6504 posts since 25 May, 2002 from Bobo-dioulasso\BF__Geneva/CH
As a kind of work i usually do FOR sampler rather than WITH because, not owning the biggest ones, i mainly work with audio editors of all kind ( dsp-quattro, soundhack, Peak LE, Recycle and others mac's sharewares ) and THEN export then into EXS24, NN-XT or Akai S2000 ( Also Dr Rex, Phatmatik Pro but usually a more conventionnal use of sampler )
This is, as a major example
www.anak-krakatoa.net/~downl/misc/TurdusMerula.rx2.hqx
...an experimentation based AT FIRST on the fact that a pitch corrector could work, rather that the only human voice, on anything that can be analysed as beeing a monophonic signal with a well-defined fondamental frequency
And in our particular case a bird's warbling though i don't remember the original scale, just that it is a major tempered one
after a rough harmonisation of the whole sample i tried AT SECOND to add some rythmical flexibility to it by treating the file through a beatslicer ( Recycle )
This resulting file is to be loaded into any sampler that loads or import RX2 files, and then transpose globally to a choosen scale ( major or relative minor ) with this only recommandation to better choose upward tranposition
This in order to have a more flexible use as an added orchestral element in the rythmical background of a composition
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As a use in situation this is a short mp3 :
www.anak-krakatoa.net/~downl/misc/INTRO.mp3
...previously submitted once in the music cafe, this post itself was previously submitted in a "dang expirimental thread" of this forum

This is, as a major example
www.anak-krakatoa.net/~downl/misc/TurdusMerula.rx2.hqx
...an experimentation based AT FIRST on the fact that a pitch corrector could work, rather that the only human voice, on anything that can be analysed as beeing a monophonic signal with a well-defined fondamental frequency
And in our particular case a bird's warbling though i don't remember the original scale, just that it is a major tempered one
after a rough harmonisation of the whole sample i tried AT SECOND to add some rythmical flexibility to it by treating the file through a beatslicer ( Recycle )
This resulting file is to be loaded into any sampler that loads or import RX2 files, and then transpose globally to a choosen scale ( major or relative minor ) with this only recommandation to better choose upward tranposition
This in order to have a more flexible use as an added orchestral element in the rythmical background of a composition
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As a use in situation this is a short mp3 :
www.anak-krakatoa.net/~downl/misc/INTRO.mp3
...previously submitted once in the music cafe, this post itself was previously submitted in a "dang expirimental thread" of this forum
Last edited by Krakatau on Tue Aug 29, 2006 4:44 am, edited 1 time in total.
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- KVRist
- 210 posts since 20 Oct, 2003
http://www.soundclick.com/kat_yidakishamann wrote:Audio clips?MotorMind wrote:I use my sampler to scare my neighbor's cat.
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- KVRAF
- 12235 posts since 18 Aug, 2003
The cat sure must be tetchy.MotorMind wrote:http://www.soundclick.com/kat_yidaki
That Volvox Vibes is a good tune.
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 4229 posts since 9 Apr, 2003 from Right here, in front of my computer...
Thanks for everybody's input on this btw, interesting and lots of good stuff to digest.
At least it's given me some insight that actually I'm not really missing much in terms of sound design with my current level of knowledge - the heaviest sampler tweakage is generally manipulating audio, cuts, loops, pitch shifting and synthy stuff, there's not some secret world I'm missing out on!
At least it's given me some insight that actually I'm not really missing much in terms of sound design with my current level of knowledge - the heaviest sampler tweakage is generally manipulating audio, cuts, loops, pitch shifting and synthy stuff, there's not some secret world I'm missing out on!
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- KVRAF
- 12235 posts since 18 Aug, 2003
Especially since sampling technology is so embedded into most hosts, a lot of the function is duplicated in most tools we already have. One thing with working with a sampler to do audio edits over a multitrack sequencer is that it in most cases is more immediate for live/realtime use.beej wrote:there's not some secret world I'm missing out on!
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- KVRist
- 210 posts since 20 Oct, 2003
Well, I guess the cat doesn't like the sound of a Fender Rhodesshamann wrote:The cat sure must be tetchy.MotorMind wrote:http://www.soundclick.com/kat_yidaki
That Volvox Vibes is a good tune.
- KVRAF
- 8080 posts since 9 Jan, 2003 from Saint Louis MO
I don't use a sampler per se, but I tend to work with FLStudio's built-in sampler and beatslicer, as well as sample-based synths.
I do a bit of sample preparation and mangling in CoolEdit 2000 as well. Sometimes I'll bounce something to audio (or record it directly during playback via the software mixer, if it's some other source than my host or I want to capture stuttering and glitches) and then cut a sample from it.
Fruity 3xOSC is actually lot of (noisy) fun when you load a sample into it that's not a single cycle waveform like it seems to expect.
I do a bit of sample preparation and mangling in CoolEdit 2000 as well. Sometimes I'll bounce something to audio (or record it directly during playback via the software mixer, if it's some other source than my host or I want to capture stuttering and glitches) and then cut a sample from it.
Fruity 3xOSC is actually lot of (noisy) fun when you load a sample into it that's not a single cycle waveform like it seems to expect.
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- KVRist
- 391 posts since 22 Mar, 2005 from Kansas City, KS
I picked all bs, because to pick only one way is bs. I do sound design, playing in different keys, use libraries, chop in beats rather than using a slicer or time stretch.
Something interesting is waveforms can be made (and probably are often) via sample mangling. Take a sample and tweak the pitch various ways in an audio editor, time stretch, add distortion and opther random stuff like that. The results will often sound more like synths than anything that was taken off a record.
Something interesting is waveforms can be made (and probably are often) via sample mangling. Take a sample and tweak the pitch various ways in an audio editor, time stretch, add distortion and opther random stuff like that. The results will often sound more like synths than anything that was taken off a record.
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- KVRist
- 106 posts since 2 Sep, 2006
first option BUT - i also make use of making sets of instruments and i use it to remap percussion to create my own sets. i do not use the scripting etc. (kontakt2) because i have no time to delve into that but i enjoy its benefit from preprogrammed samples in advanced sample libraries. i don't want to miss it anymore. it makes samples much more alive and playable.

