So how do you use your sampler?

Sampler and Sampling discussion (techniques, tips and tricks, etc.)

How do you use your sampler?

I mostly just play back existing libraries/instruments
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34%
I use it as a synth, but with samples rather than waveforms
15
17%
I generally just mess about with audio to see if anything interesting happens
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14%
I do advanced sound design using the sophisticated tools modern samplers give me
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22%
What's a sampler?
0
No votes
That sampling thing - is that a bit like fishing?
3
3%
All the options in your poll are bullshit
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9%
 
Total votes: 90

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hollowsun wrote:
shamann wrote:I'll give you two minor examples of things I do with sampling:
I really liked both of them. My kind of 'music'.
Thanks, nice of you to say.

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generally to "f**k shit up"
push sounds until they become something new and interesting.
chop n rearrange...
pitch changes...
filters...
whatevers available...


3rd option in the poll btw :)
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Okay, well here's a little example of the kind of loop manipulation I was talking about. I included a screenshot of the SC program, so you can also see that in essence it's really simple - a dual-peak filter, a couple tempo-synced LFOs with simple shapes, some loop points, and some modulation routings centered around that. Also I used time(s) to sweep the cutoff frequency of the dual peak filter because it was easier than drawing an automation sweep. Oh, the other sample you see is the unprocessed version which is mixed in - you can hear the unprocessed loop in isolation for the last two bars.

http://myweb.unomaha.edu/~cclimer/Yes I Can.zip

In an actual composition I probably wouldn't use a sample in such an obvious way, and the beat is pretty repetitive even with the added "glitchiness" (which really isn't glitchiness at all, it's exactly the behavior intended and expected for the parameters chosen, neither is it chaotic or "random" in any way). But it's just a simple demonstration - it's been a long week. :|

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As a kind of work i usually do FOR sampler rather than WITH because, not owning the biggest ones, i mainly work with audio editors of all kind ( dsp-quattro, soundhack, Peak LE, Recycle and others mac's sharewares ) and THEN export then into EXS24, NN-XT or Akai S2000 ( Also Dr Rex, Phatmatik Pro but usually a more conventionnal use of sampler )

This is, as a major example

www.anak-krakatoa.net/~downl/misc/TurdusMerula.rx2.hqx

...an experimentation based AT FIRST on the fact that a pitch corrector could work, rather that the only human voice, on anything that can be analysed as beeing a monophonic signal with a well-defined fondamental frequency

And in our particular case a bird's warbling though i don't remember the original scale, just that it is a major tempered one

after a rough harmonisation of the whole sample i tried AT SECOND to add some rythmical flexibility to it by treating the file through a beatslicer ( Recycle )

This resulting file is to be loaded into any sampler that loads or import RX2 files, and then transpose globally to a choosen scale ( major or relative minor ) with this only recommandation to better choose upward tranposition

This in order to have a more flexible use as an added orchestral element in the rythmical background of a composition

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As a use in situation this is a short mp3 :

www.anak-krakatoa.net/~downl/misc/INTRO.mp3

...previously submitted once in the music cafe, this post itself was previously submitted in a "dang expirimental thread" of this forum

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Last edited by Krakatau on Tue Aug 29, 2006 4:44 am, edited 1 time in total.

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I sample riffs myself playing other synths and samplers, load them in guru and slice and rearrange.

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shamann wrote:
MotorMind wrote:I use my sampler to scare my neighbor's cat.
Audio clips?
http://www.soundclick.com/kat_yidaki

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The cat sure must be tetchy.

That Volvox Vibes is a good tune.

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Thanks for everybody's input on this btw, interesting and lots of good stuff to digest.

At least it's given me some insight that actually I'm not really missing much in terms of sound design with my current level of knowledge - the heaviest sampler tweakage is generally manipulating audio, cuts, loops, pitch shifting and synthy stuff, there's not some secret world I'm missing out on! ;)
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beej wrote:there's not some secret world I'm missing out on! ;)
Especially since sampling technology is so embedded into most hosts, a lot of the function is duplicated in most tools we already have. One thing with working with a sampler to do audio edits over a multitrack sequencer is that it in most cases is more immediate for live/realtime use.

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shamann wrote:
The cat sure must be tetchy.

That Volvox Vibes is a good tune.
Well, I guess the cat doesn't like the sound of a Fender Rhodes ;)

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I don't use a sampler per se, but I tend to work with FLStudio's built-in sampler and beatslicer, as well as sample-based synths.

I do a bit of sample preparation and mangling in CoolEdit 2000 as well. Sometimes I'll bounce something to audio (or record it directly during playback via the software mixer, if it's some other source than my host or I want to capture stuttering and glitches) and then cut a sample from it.

Fruity 3xOSC is actually lot of (noisy) fun when you load a sample into it that's not a single cycle waveform like it seems to expect. :D

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I picked all bs, because to pick only one way is bs. I do sound design, playing in different keys, use libraries, chop in beats rather than using a slicer or time stretch.

Something interesting is waveforms can be made (and probably are often) via sample mangling. Take a sample and tweak the pitch various ways in an audio editor, time stretch, add distortion and opther random stuff like that. The results will often sound more like synths than anything that was taken off a record.
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first option BUT - i also make use of making sets of instruments and i use it to remap percussion to create my own sets. i do not use the scripting etc. (kontakt2) because i have no time to delve into that but i enjoy its benefit from preprogrammed samples in advanced sample libraries. i don't want to miss it anymore. it makes samples much more alive and playable.

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