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Lagrange · Post by **Lagrange** » Fri Apr 20, 2007 6:57 pm

WHAT?? KONTAKT AUTOUPDATES?? WHOAA!!! Have to check this out!

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loachm · Post by **loachm** » Fri Apr 20, 2007 7:01 pm

bduffy wrote:
Lagrange wrote:One other MAJOR problem with some of these rex players is they don't do mirror stretching. Which means your gonna get some nasty envelope cutoffs (clicks) if you slow down the tempo in the host! AFAIK Recycle, DR Rex and FL's slicer are the only ones that do this. I use vsampler (which also loads REX files and Exports a MIDI file) but have to make sure I get the length setup properly 1st or it's click hell for the loop.
"Mirror" stretching? You mean the stretching in ReCycle? Yeah, it's a very cool feature that everybody inexplicably forgets about.

...the latest update of Kontakt recognises this streching, too. unfortunately not muted slices which are very important to me...

bduffy wrote:
loachm wrote:...when I use Kontakt, I have chosen Recycle for the option "use external editor" - so I have my perfect Recycle VSTi...
Holy shit, that's a good idea! And the edits you make in ReCycle are updated in Kontakt??

...actually, I don't know if this would work, I haven't really tried it for I have my loops previously sliced up - I just wanted to tease a bit. But try it out - maybe it works...

mw · Post by mw » Fri Apr 20, 2007 7:01 pm

tech44 wrote:
mw wrote:One of the great things I found about the Dr. Rex player was that the reason sequencer was at hand the same time as editing and sequencing. So I think it would be great if someone made a vsti Rex player/slicer that had a sequencer built in and that you could trigger the full sequence and it's individual parts by midi notes.

By the way Battery 3 does a great job playing Rex files in tempo w/ your host and will map the slices to individual notes/cells. The preview function, which runs at the same tempo as the host, is great as well.

Directwave will play and map slices to keys too, but there is a bug right now that the internal effects do not work on rex files...
If I understand you, Phatmatik does this. You have to export the midi file and import it in the sequencer though, but it take 2 seconds (you can usually save it to the desktop and drag it into the sequencer). With DR Rex you just hit the button and it sends it automatically, but it the same functionality.

the send to sequencer button is great and works quickly, having to import the midi file in cubase is a pain. no more drag and drop in cubase for midi files!

sonicfire · Post by **sonicfire** » Fri Apr 20, 2007 7:02 pm

Basement Arts REFLEX

bduffy · Post by **bduffy** » Fri Apr 20, 2007 7:08 pm

loachm wrote:
bduffy wrote:
Lagrange wrote:One other MAJOR problem with some of these rex players is they don't do mirror stretching. Which means your gonna get some nasty envelope cutoffs (clicks) if you slow down the tempo in the host! AFAIK Recycle, DR Rex and FL's slicer are the only ones that do this. I use vsampler (which also loads REX files and Exports a MIDI file) but have to make sure I get the length setup properly 1st or it's click hell for the loop.
"Mirror" stretching? You mean the stretching in ReCycle? Yeah, it's a very cool feature that everybody inexplicably forgets about.

...the latest update of Kontakt recognises this streching, too. unfortunately not muted slices which are very important to me...

bduffy wrote:
loachm wrote:...when I use Kontakt, I have chosen Recycle for the option "use external editor" - so I have my perfect Recycle VSTi...
Holy shit, that's a good idea! And the edits you make in ReCycle are updated in Kontakt??
...actually, I don't know if this would work, I haven't really tried it for I have my loops previously sliced up - I just wanted to tease a bit. But try it out - maybe it works...

Hmmm...I will. But I predict failure.

sonicfire wrote:Basement Arts REFLEX

Menh. Too small and bitchy.

bduffy · Post by **bduffy** » Fri Apr 20, 2007 7:19 pm

I tried using ReCycle as my defualt editor in Kontakt. This is what I got when I tried to open the files:

Back to the ol' drawing board!

AKJ · Post by **AKJ** » Fri Apr 20, 2007 7:35 pm

actually, intakt is not so bad, I really find it a pity that is has been discontinued.
FL Slicer is really ok. Very straight forward. If you got fl studio, I guess you probably won't need anything else.
from checking the demo, I would however say, that liveslice looks quite good.

bduffy · Post by **bduffy** » Fri Apr 20, 2007 7:42 pm

AKJ wrote:actually, intakt is not so bad, I really find it a pity that is has been discontinued.
FL Slicer is really ok. Very straight forward. If you got fl studio, I guess you probably won't need anything else.
from checking the demo, I would however say, that liveslice looks quite good.

I know a lot of people like Liveslice, but I find it very hard to use; just doesn't make sense to me.

Lagrange · Post by **Lagrange** » Fri Apr 20, 2007 10:14 pm

bduffy wrote:Back to the ol' drawing board!

You probably have to convert the sample to 24bit maximum (although you probably know that already).. Hey what about a scsi dump

?? The funny thing is that I was able to do a SCSI transfer from a hardware sampler to Recycle but the open as separate files which would be ok if you could copy and paste between files..

AKJ wrote:...I would however say, that liveslice looks quite good.

Yea it has some good points. My major gripe is the fact that each channel cannot be triggered individally from MIDI.. Everything is based on the 1st channel..

Has REX been implemented yet?

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bduffy · Post by **bduffy** » Fri Apr 20, 2007 10:22 pm

Lagrange wrote:
bduffy wrote:Back to the ol' drawing board!
You probably have to convert the sample to 24bit maximum (although you probably know that already).. Hey what about a scsi dump ?? The funny thing is that I was able to do a SCSI transfer from a hardware sampler to Recycle but the open as separate files which would be ok if you could copy and paste between files..

Menh. It ain't facking werf it.

dreaddd · Post by **dreaddd** » Sat Apr 21, 2007 1:34 am

if someone manage to produce a recycle sampler that looks like a dr rex on steoids and have some basic but quality features (the one basically needed for using the actual loop not for morphing-devastating-FSUing the thing, there are tons of fx for doing it) and sell it for some less than the competitors, he could rock the market more likely IMO
Peace

Lagrange · Post by **Lagrange** » Sat Apr 21, 2007 1:46 am

I'm not one to belive that any given single thought is an independant occurance. Someone, somewhere else is or has thought the exact same thing. With that known, why has noone come up with a recycle type plugin like this. It has bogeled my mind for years now..

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dreaddd · Post by **dreaddd** » Sat Apr 21, 2007 1:53 am

yeah definitely...i heard TONS of people friend producers during the years asking for a straight drrexed sample player vstwize..no thrills no frills simple quality feature and let ME then devastate the sample please ;P ..i dont need rearrangin feature, complex matrix to apply to the filter, mystical power or other unneeded features that most of the time render the product buggy and harder to use for what it s needed for most people..the closer thing as already pointed out on this thread may be phatmatik, but we re not still on the target IMO ;P
if i was a developer with a decent brand behind (ie with budget for the rex2 licence) id go for it immediately before someone else jump in
Peace

maniacal · Post by **maniacal** » Sat Apr 21, 2007 4:22 am

sonicfire wrote:Basement Arts REFLEX

+1

dreaddd · Post by **dreaddd** » Sat Apr 21, 2007 4:36 am

seen the price too?

Dr Rex, VST?