Sugar Bytes released Consequence!

[op519]

Hi Rico,

Really inspirational creation you have here. Definitely on my list.

Just wanted to alert you to something, which you might already know.

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It shows up properly when selected but in the drop down, it shows up as OSCTAVE

[auricle]

I think that most people will be using the MIDI out of this plugin to power their own favourite synths, samplers, etc. However, it seems that a couple of features are not transmitted through the MIDI out (on the demo, anyway).

1) The Modulation sequencer is not transmitted (at least the volume should be transmitted - controller 7), this is a powerful part of this unique sequencer and it cannot be used with any other synth. Why not allow the user to select any of the 127 MIDI controllers and aftertouch to output via MIDI?

2) Octave is not transmitted.

It is an expensive plugin but having a comprehensive MIDI spec would at least make the cost more justified. Having a limited MIDI capability restricts the usefulness of this plugin.

Don't get me wrong, I do like this plugin. There are some great ideas in there and having chord pattern storage is wonderful but I'm holding out buying it until it's MIDI spec is beefed up a bit.

[Sugar Bytes]

Hi,

1) I plan to add a CC section in the modulation track, so you can send out a Midi controller.

2) Octave is transmitted, I double checked that. It was not transmitted in the first Demo, maybe download again to make sure you have the new one which has been uploaded tonight.

3) TRG and EACH are not used for the MIDI out. I am thinking about a MIDI window where these settings are available.


best
Rico

[jhn]

Is there a standalone version with midi out? The demo doesn't seem to have one.
This way I can use it with the IAC driver to trigger inside Logic until Apple solves the AU midi out thing or a version is released that hosts AU instruments.

[Fieldy]

it's really exciting that people start complainig before they checked out creative possibilities of plugs like that.
in my opinion you can make a lot of trouble with the soundlibrary. i can spend some time with that before i think of playing other gear with all features consequence has onboard. thanks again for this stunning new instrument. would love to program some presets for u too if you want to. manu

[gyprock]

As a future feature, would it be possible to exclude selected notes from sounding when triggered by the "chord" trigger? I find that the sound is too dense when all the notes are played simultaneously as a chord, particularly in fast rhythms.

Probably the best way to do it is to right click on a triangle on the keyboard and have the option to select two states: "normal" and "exclude from chord trigger". The onscreen colour of the triangle could change to indicate this change of status.

Down the track, further states could be defined for individual notes e.g. exclude from arpeggio etc but this needs to be thought through.

In mouse input mode (controlling when chords change), adding the ability to change the state of a note in real time would add a lot more creative control.

[ckatrun411]

As a future feature, would it be possible to exclude selected notes from sounding when triggered by the "chord" trigger? I find that the sound is too dense when all the notes are played simultaneously as a chord, particularly in fast rhythms.

Hello,

This makes very little sense. You can just sequence this type of behavior already. Copy and paste the chord to the next pattern, remove the note, sequence the new pattern on the chord sequencer, when you don't want that note to play.

Down the track, further states could be defined for individual notes e.g. exclude from arpeggio etc but this needs to be thought through.

Hi man, explore.... All this is already implemented inside the architecture of the plug.

In mouse input mode (controlling when chords change), adding the ability to change the state of a note in real time would add a lot more creative control.

You can manually control your chord changes. Use a midi controller. I am so sorry, but I think every feature you are asking for, is already there. No worries...

Cheers

[funkadil]

Do you get this if you buy the bundle?

[Sugar Bytes]

Hi Funkadil,

yes, Consequence is part of the Sugar Bundle,

best
Rico

[hangars liquides]

Hi Rico,
just tried the new demo (live 7, macbook pro 2.2 Ghz intel core 2 duo, 3 GB of ram, OS 10.4.11), and I still have the same cpu overload issue as for the first demo version. The midi out works well on the vst version, but I still have the CPU going in the red with too many audio drop outs, even if I increase the buffer settings to the maximum values, use the app with a light patch, etc...
But from the very little I could hear between the gaps, you have made a wonderfull creative tool ! Sorry for my impatience, this tool is so promising.
Anyone here had the same processor issues ?

[gyprock]

As a future feature, would it be possible to exclude selected notes from sounding when triggered by the "chord" trigger? I find that the sound is too dense when all the notes are played simultaneously as a chord, particularly in fast rhythms.

Hello,

This makes very little sense. You can just sequence this type of behavior already. Copy and paste the chord to the next pattern, remove the note, sequence the new pattern on the chord sequencer, when you don't want that note to play.

I agree that you can sequence this but it can get messy. Let's say I have a scale (or tight chord cluster) in each memory location. Example:

Chord1: D minor 7th scale (D to D all white notes)
Chord2: G dominant 7th scale (G to G all white notes)
Chord3: C major scale (C to C all white notes)

I don't want to use the chord sequencer but rather select the chords in manual mode (cause I'm jamming in real time to get ideas). In the performance sequencer I've setup an 8 note loop where the first 7 notes run up the scale (arp trigger) and the last note triggers a chord. At the moment the triggered chord consists of the entire 8 notes of the scale (sounds terrible) because there is no way that I can exclude which notes are being played.

All the examples in the demo are based on chordal based arpeggios where a block chord still sounds ok if all notes are sounded. As soon as people start experimenting with more scalar based designs then trying to sequence this by your approach will be a challenge.

If you could suggest another way of tackling the above example I'd love to know.

[ckatrun411]

I agree that you can sequence this but it can get messy. Let's say I have a scale (or tight chord cluster) in each memory location. Example:

You agree you can do this already.

Let's say I have a scale (or tight chord cluster) in each memory location. Example:

When you use 16 different, chords, scales, riffs and patterns in one dance track on Consequence.... Let me know.



cheers

[gyprock]

I agree that you can sequence this but it can get messy. Let's say I have a scale (or tight chord cluster) in each memory location. Example:

You agree you can do this already.

Let's say I have a scale (or tight chord cluster) in each memory location. Example:

When you use 16 different, chords, scales, riffs and patterns in one dance track on Consequence.... Let me know.



cheers

You didn't even read what I'm trying to achieve - I want to use manual mode not sequencer mode and record what I'm doing live.

Probably what would be better for me is a Consequence LE version (at reduced cost) with a very light memory footprint that I can load multiple instances of and use MIDI OUT. For an LE version you wouldn't even need 3 instrument channels, just one is fine.

[kodama]

So I'm messing with this thing and a few things occurred to me:

1. Chord ties don't work w midi out?

2. "Gate" is actually velocity, instead of gate time?

[Sugar Bytes]

Hi Kodama,

the TIE will be part of the MIDI out data in the next version,
we plan an update pretty soon.

The gate track is trigger/velocity in one track.

Best
Rico