So I tried Reaper and messed with Cubase !!! All I can say is "They Stink"
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- KVRAF
- 4908 posts since 10 Aug, 2004 from Colorado Springs
- KVRist
- 286 posts since 19 Jun, 2004
Tracktion is dead and stink. 'Reaper, Cubase, Sonar, Logic, ProTools they all stink. They have stinky old interface designs from the 80' of the last century.
Only Ableton Live is evangelism.
Only Ableton Live is evangelism.
[del]AudioLinux sucks.[/del]
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- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 593 posts since 22 Oct, 2006
Damn Fanatics !!!!Lump wrote:Tracktion is dead and stink. 'Reaper, Cubase, Sonar, Logic, ProTools they all stink. They have stinky old interface designs from the 80' of the last century.
Only Ableton Live is evangelism.
- KVRAF
- 2158 posts since 11 Oct, 2007 from Almanya
Over the years, I messed about with various versions of Samplitude (v7, LE8, LE9, Music Studio, etc), had my hands on the old Cubase LE, the 'new' Cubase AI, other assorted additions to audio interfaces as Tracktion, Sonar LE, Live Lite, etc.
Let's make it short: all crap.
I've never liked Reaper for optical reasons, but as soon as I started getting 'into it' and really trained myself to use one hand on the mouse and the other on the keyboard, I realized how advanced and intelligent the whole workflow inside it is.
Plus: the routing possibilities are ferociously astonishing. None of this "limited to xxx tracks"-nonsense, none of this "limited to x plugin inserts per track"-b/s, "everything can go anywhere", none of the PITA restrictions all the others had.
Well, that is except the physical limitations of the PC it runs on.
And suddenly - i am productive again.
No more testing sequencers, I've found my perfect fit. All it needs is some time, some work to get used to it, and an open mind that allows you to accept that something can be really good despite being not all that expensive.
I recently tried Sonar, Cubase and even the completely over-priced Samplitude again... and there's no way I'm switching back.
Who cares about the looks, it's the inner value that counts.
And on the inside, Reaper -to me- is priceless.
Let's make it short: all crap.
I've never liked Reaper for optical reasons, but as soon as I started getting 'into it' and really trained myself to use one hand on the mouse and the other on the keyboard, I realized how advanced and intelligent the whole workflow inside it is.
Plus: the routing possibilities are ferociously astonishing. None of this "limited to xxx tracks"-nonsense, none of this "limited to x plugin inserts per track"-b/s, "everything can go anywhere", none of the PITA restrictions all the others had.
Well, that is except the physical limitations of the PC it runs on.
And suddenly - i am productive again.
No more testing sequencers, I've found my perfect fit. All it needs is some time, some work to get used to it, and an open mind that allows you to accept that something can be really good despite being not all that expensive.
I recently tried Sonar, Cubase and even the completely over-priced Samplitude again... and there's no way I'm switching back.
Who cares about the looks, it's the inner value that counts.
And on the inside, Reaper -to me- is priceless.
- KVRist
- 101 posts since 16 Jun, 2005 from Up
If Reaper or any other DAW can gang bang ASIO adapters to provide unlimited audio inputs then that will be 'unlimited'.caleb82 wrote:
I've never liked Reaper for optical reasons, but as soon as I started getting 'into it' and really trained myself to use one hand on the mouse and the other on the keyboard, I realized how advanced and intelligent the whole workflow inside it is.
Plus: the routing possibilities are ferociously astonishing. None of this "limited to xxx tracks"-nonsense, none of this "limited to x plugin inserts per track"-b/s, "everything can go anywhere", none of the PITA restrictions all the others had.
Well, that is except the physical limitations of the PC it runs on.
Cheers!
My Music http://www.rockcycle.ca
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- KVRAF
- 2427 posts since 13 Sep, 2004
Not really i avoid even mentioning it but it is the best app for ME at the minutewhyterabbyt wrote:that's because they come here when they're wanting to pimp reaper at people.skipkent wrote:Very little chat about which daw is best.
A few vocal minority are complete tossers though it must be said
But it is far from all whatsaname users
NAS
Omerta
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- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 593 posts since 22 Oct, 2006
But if you give Tracktion , Cubase and Reaper to 3 newbies (same intellegence). And had them create the same song. Id bet the person who used Tracktion would be done first.
- KVRAF
- 2158 posts since 11 Oct, 2007 from Almanya
Yeah, maybe.
And now let the same people do the same work after 1 month of in-depth practice with the same software... that one would go to Reaper.
@hwhalen
I wrote about "physical limitations", hardware inputs are such.
Reaper does support a "theoretically" unlimited number of tracks to playback and record. If the interface itself, the ASIO/device drivers and the connection to the PC/MAC provided such possibility, with Reaper you'd be able to record how-many-ever tracks the interface could pump through to the computer.
But then again, these are what...? Exactly, "physical limitations" and absolutely nothing to do with Reaper itself.
And now let the same people do the same work after 1 month of in-depth practice with the same software... that one would go to Reaper.
@hwhalen
I wrote about "physical limitations", hardware inputs are such.
Reaper does support a "theoretically" unlimited number of tracks to playback and record. If the interface itself, the ASIO/device drivers and the connection to the PC/MAC provided such possibility, with Reaper you'd be able to record how-many-ever tracks the interface could pump through to the computer.
But then again, these are what...? Exactly, "physical limitations" and absolutely nothing to do with Reaper itself.
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- KVRAF
- 4644 posts since 28 Nov, 2002 from Chicago
Really?caleb82 wrote: And now let the same people do the same work after 1 month of in-depth practice with the same software... that one would go to Reaper.
You're missing your own point. You're shilling Reaper on the grounds that it's your perfect fit so it will be everyone else's too. That doesn't even begin to form a valid argument. I hate Cubase with a passion -- I was extremely glad to leave it in favour of even early, rough versions of Tracktion. Plenty of people find Cubase to be the most efficient and logical host though, so who are you or I to tell them they're wrong. The only metric is productivity, and each user will have a different benchmark for that.No more testing sequencers, I've found my perfect fit.
Oddly, Tracktion was my perfect fit, and Reaper just doesn't do it for me. I'm happy you found a host that works for you. I regret that my preference seems to be withering on the vine.
Someone shot the food. Remember: don't shoot food!
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- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 593 posts since 22 Oct, 2006
Tracktion is my perfect fit also. And I was surprised and thrilled today when Mackie announced its still alive.
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- KVRian
- 974 posts since 10 May, 2003
At the moment i'm having a passionate affair with Podium. But if T survives, i will certainly come back to it, although i must say Podium almost fits my needs after the most recent updates. Great app.
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- KVRian
- 755 posts since 4 Jun, 2004
You know those egg cells they keep in the freezer? They are alive too.... I see no reason to get thrilled by this Mackie post.BushmasterM4 wrote: And I was surprised and thrilled today when Mackie announced its still alive.
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- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 593 posts since 22 Oct, 2006
True, but its more than we have been gettingfrankvg wrote:You know those egg cells they keep in the freezer? They are alive too.... I see no reason to get thrilled by this Mackie post.BushmasterM4 wrote: And I was surprised and thrilled today when Mackie announced its still alive.
- KVRist
- 101 posts since 16 Jun, 2005 from Up
I've been using Tracktion since V1.6.
Upgraded to T2, then T3.
It still works great for me.
I downloaded Reaper yesterday to see what the fuss is all about.
Reaper works great. I'm sure I'll be able to do everything that I do in T3.
I'm ready for T3 to come or go...for now I'll use both.
Cheers!
Upgraded to T2, then T3.
It still works great for me.
I downloaded Reaper yesterday to see what the fuss is all about.
Reaper works great. I'm sure I'll be able to do everything that I do in T3.
I'm ready for T3 to come or go...for now I'll use both.
Cheers!
My Music http://www.rockcycle.ca
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- KVRian
- 1120 posts since 13 Sep, 2005
Not if it involved any groove quantisation it wouldn't.caleb82 wrote:Yeah, maybe.
And now let the same people do the same work after 1 month of in-depth practice with the same software... that one would go to Reaper.

